Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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I find it brilliantly hilarious that no matter what the topic, this thread degenerates into complete filth every few pages. It's awesome.
I want to have sex with this thread. :lol
 
Those are flawed as well :lol

First, Luke's "plan" and court scene. He goes to talk to Jabba looking and acting like a badass (for the first time in the trilogy) and he quickly gets captured. His plan A, to shoot Jabba with gun...really? Plan B worked and the only reason his rescue attempt worked is because R2-D2 was positioned on top of Jabba's ship to launch his lightsaber. Fine, and what would Luke have done if that little dwarf in a can-costume didn't show-up on top of that ship? What if the ship was simply too far for R2 to even reach Luke with his lightsaber throw? What if Jabba thought R2 was a crappy robot and broke it in hundreds of pieces or just left R2D2 behind? What if Jabba scanned the robot and saw it was hiding a lightsaber or some weapon? What if Luke were dropped in the sand monster with handcuffs? If this is the best plan he could come up with after months of preparation? And lets not forget, one of the worst deaths in film history, Boba Fett (yes he was dead).

Then, Yoda dies minutes after Luke shows up to finish his training. Right before Luke entered his hut, Yoda was standing there making a little soup and everything, not sick in bed :lol He was probably waiting for some female company, but Luke shows up, so he was like **** it, I rather die than to listen to this prick again. Either that or Luke got Ebola from Jabba or something and accidently killed Yoda with a space disease . And what was the deal with Luke's "final test" to become a jedi? He had to beat Vader? What? Did Obie Wan fight Joda to the death too to finally "graduate" ?



The forest scenes, well we see the Rebel commando team in the forest of Endor wearing camouflage and painting their faces like Arnold in Comando to stay hidden from the "Elite" storm-troopers. Great, but it's pointless when you also bring C3P0 who is a golden robot that reflects light, can’t run or crouch, makes loud robotic noises when moving, never shuts the hell up, and makes everyone grunt and make noises when they interact with him.

Then, On Endor, the Storm troopers are so ELITE that they don’t need radio transmitters. No sir, when they want to talk to their main base about anything, let’s say: an incoming surprise raid which could threaten the Empire, they have to hop on super-sonic bikes and travel through a racing track that would make Mario Kart’s rainbow road look like a piece of cake. But that's not all, The Elite Storm Troopers on Endor are incapable of beating teddy bears. It would be similar if we took the best special forces has to offer today, send them in the past to fight less equipped people and see them lose. Except that in ROTJ the soldiers also have futuristic armor, laser guns and robots, while the enemy are nothing more than 20-pound teddy bears that can barely run. It makes no sense.

Not to mention, there shouldn't be an Endor since the destruction of the second death star (which had the same flaw as the first one...what could go wrong the second time?) would cause so much damage that anything around shouldn't even survive it, even the rebels. It's basically a freaking artificial small moon exploding! :lol

Lets talk about Luke,Vader and the Emperor. The Emperor's plan sucks. He has very strong, clairvoyant powers in the force yet refuses to use them to find whoever is threating his Empire. Instead, his whole plan to not completely destroy the Rebel troops in space is to get Luke in an angry mood to push him towards the dark side of the force...to make him an ally. That's pretty cunning, man! But why tell your plan to Luke? ''Take your weapon. Strike me down with all your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!''. Why would you say something like that? Why would you tell Luke exactly what was in store for him if he followed your manipulation? Dumb...still not as dumb as droids feeling pain and screaming when you burn their feet.

Then after Luke beats Vader in the slowest lightsaber fight ever, the Emperor is slowly killing Luke with his lightning bolts/Thor powers; Vader then takes him up – walks toward the reactor shaft – and throws him down with no resistance on his part. Why didn’t the emperor react? In fact, it’s not like Vader had that much grip on him having only one hand. One hand and he was dying of asthma!! The Emperor had a good 10-15 seconds to do something...anything and he's like super "powerful." Well, apparently not, so no need for Luke to join Vader to overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son, yeah...Vader could have done it all with one hand all along. Well, that craps on ESB. Way to go, GL.


I only like the first two films, I thought ROTJ was garbage to sell more toys to be honest. I give credit to Lucas for the first film though :monkey3 At this point it's impossible for Disney to damage the franchise more the Prequels and ROTJ already have.

Well, ROTJ is far from my favorite SW movie, but you can apply that same logic to dissect most any movie...

Let's take the revered ESB, for instance.

The rebels have one static cannon against an entire fleet of Star Destroyers, yet they manage to escape Hoth.
Luke lands on an uncharted planet and manages to do it right next to Yoda's hut.
Vader gets to Bespin before Han, even though Boba Fett is trailing the Falcon.
Vader uses his telekinetic powers to throw all kinds of stuff at Luke, but can't stop him from falling.
Lando and Leia manage to get on board the Falcon, miraculously under-guarded by the Empire, rescue Luke by escaping from what should be a base crawling with Imperial troops and Tie Fighters, and then get away from another Star Destroyer.

There's no use over-analyzing these movies, they all have flaws and inconsistencies.
It's just that fans like to over-analyze some more than others.
 
Well, ROTJ is far from my favorite SW movie, but you can apply that same logic to dissect most any movie...

Let's take the revered ESB, for instance.

The rebels have one static cannon against an entire fleet of Star Destroyers, yet they manage to escape Hoth.
Luke lands on an uncharted planet and manages to do it right next to Yoda's hut.
Vader gets to Bespin before Han, even though Boba Fett is trailing the Falcon.
Vader uses his telekinetic powers to throw all kinds of stuff at Luke, but can't stop him from falling.
Lando and Leia manage to get on board the Falcon, miraculously under-guarded by the Empire, rescue Luke by escaping from what should be a base crawling with Imperial troops and Tie Fighters, and then get away from another Star Destroyer.

There's no use over-analyzing these movies, they all have flaws and inconsistencies.
It's just that fans like to over-analyze some more than others.

Well, yeah...but some of it is not overanalyzing, it's obvious.

Like Yoda sending Luke alone to face off against Darth Vader: who he knows to be stronger than his son. While training Luke, they showed that Yoda is still be very powerful (lifting the entire Fighter). So it makes no sense that he wouldn't join the Rebellion. He could provide strategic knowledge, but instead he prefers being carried in a back-pack to assist Luke in his fight against the Sith and leaves Luke on his suicide mission, because he needed to make some soup and die...well if he's already "dying", might as well go down fighting.

Also, When Leia, Lando and the rest are trying to escape from Cloud City at the end of the film, they find that Vader has disabled their hyperdrive so they can't escape as easily. But why not just disable the entire engine on the millennium falcon? His whole plan was to capture them, would it not be more logical to completely shut it off? :slap

In the beginning we see the rebel troops on Hoth fighting what could be the worst war machine ever created, the AT-AT. In an universe, where everything has wings and flies, the Empire's weapon has legs (because legs are practical) and moves slower than a turtle, but no only that, they can only shoot in one direction, from the front, yet the "expert" rebel pilots keep flying in a circular motion and "attacking" those giant turtles straight on...you don't need to be combat strategist or a genius to know that plan sucks. Those things can't turn around...or shoot from any other direction. :lol

Also, when Luke is attacked by the wampa, which by the way, it's the size of big foot and a breath as loud as a jet engine. So how does it sneak up on anyone is beyond me? Yeah sure, its fur is white but Luke was standing in a giant open field. Anyway, after Cool hand Luke gets over his initial fear of the Wampa and cuts the arm off, he could have just killed that thing, but no sir, Luke got scared again...he wasn't scare of a healthy Wampa...but suddenly a handicaped Wampa is too much for the far boy, making him crap his pants and run out of there where he knows he's going to freeze to death.

There's a lot more, but I'll leave it alone because I like ESB.

But ESB has better chorography than ROTJ :lol

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