Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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You will have to wait until they start using look-a-like synthetics in movies to get the Episode 7 you want :lol and then you can actually have living collectibles and make your own Star Wars, exactly how you want it

****, imagine when they start making remakes with those :lol or holograms.
 
I like the first block of spoilers. Sounds like it could be a fun, exciting adventure if done well. The second block of spoilers seems like too much of a downer for the first part of a trilogy. I think having any characters (new or returning) permanently removed from the story should happen in Episode VIII if it happens at all.
 
I hope they keep the geezers' screen time to a minimum. Each trilogy should be about a new generation.

I think they will. They're just bringing the originals back to appease the older Star Wars fans and to give it some continuity. However I imagine they will play much smaller roles with the new generation as the leaders/heroes.

They will still target the films for the 18-39 age bracket, so a bit of the old mixed in with the new is their best bet.

Personally I don't have much interest in the new characters, I don't even know any of these actors.


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as much as its tempting to read all those rumors.. I will stay out of it .. I ruined myself EP2 by reading the whole plot before the movie came out.. Wont do it again.. I enjoy the teaser and trailer when coming out and keep waiting the last 300 days :D
 
How many of us actually knew who Hamill, Ford, Fisher and Guiness were when the OT came out?

Guinness was in a lot of films before...

The Bridge on River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia who btw played with Omar Shariff one of my favorite old actors.

I mean just look at his roles before 1977
https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=alec+guinness+movies

Versus Harrsion Ford and Mark Hamill

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=harrison+ford+movies

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=mark+hamil+movies

If anything they got their starts from Star Wars yes... But people like Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing had roles and known. I mean Peter Cushing did the original Dracula in 58' so that's 20 years in film history before Star Wars.
 
‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’: Opening Sequence Details Revealed?


In their latest report, Making Star Wars states that the film’s opening sequence will take place in a “savannah environment,” where a villager named Naka stumbles across a lightsaber that has fallen from the sky. Accidentally activating the weapon, Naka starts a fire in his home. Startled, he brings the lightsaber to a character referred to as “The Vicar” (allegedly Max Von Sydow’s character), who is Naka’s elder. The Vicar contacts the Rebel Alliance shortly after seeing the lightsaber, which brings Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) to the planet.

Poe takes the lightsaber from the Vicar, but learns that the Empire is also at the location (either by following the pilot or intercepting the Vicar’s transmission). Dameron hides the lightsaber inside of BB-8 (the soccer ball droid) and prepares to battle the Imperial forces while the robot flees the scene.

It’s during this sequence that we will also meet Finn (John Boyega), who is part of the stormtrooper legion that arrives at the savannah planet to retrieve the lightsaber. As has been reported before, Finn loses his best friend in the battle and proves to be too kindhearted for the Empire. The final straw is apparently when Finn allows innocent villagers to escape the confrontation, which leads to Kylo Ren (the cross guard lightsaber wielding villain) placing Finn under arrest and burning the village to the ground. Finn is taken to the brig of a Star Destroyer, where he meets Poe.
John Boyega in Star Wars Star Wars: The Force Awakens: Opening Sequence Details Revealed?

John Boyega as Finn in ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’

The duo form a mutually-beneficial partnership in order to escape. Finn never learned to fly, so he needs the pilot Poe to get him out of this situation; however, he possesses knowledge of the brig’s schematics, which will allow the two to escape the ship. They scheme to steal a TIE fighter, which will seemingly set the core plot in motion.

Anyone who has been following the recent storyline rumors for The Force Awakens will note some striking similarities between this new development and what has been made public before. The descriptions of how Finn and Poe fit into the opening sequence play in line with what we’ve already heard (Finn is a good guy gone AWOL, they end up on an Imperial brig and concoct an escape plan, etc.). The only chief difference is that Rey (Daisy Ridley) seems to be absent from these first moments, when earlier she was rumored to have a key part in getting Finn and Poe out before the trio meet up with Han Solo.
Star Wars Force Awakens BB8 Star Wars: The Force Awakens: Opening Sequence Details Revealed?

BB-8 in ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’

What does seem to be confirmed by this, however, is Rey’s supposed role as protector of the lightsaber, which is believed to be a tool that can open an ancient Sith tomb. It’s been reported that BB-8 belongs to her, so it seems very possible that the little droid is taking the weapon to his master in order to keep it out of the Empire’s hands. Kylo Ren is said to be on the hunt for artifacts like the lightsaber so he can open the tomb (which Luke is away guarding), so his inclusion in the opening makes sense as well.

Abrams may say that certain rumors aren’t true, but it is becoming increasingly likely that this is indeed how The Force Awakens will begin. We’ve heard elements of this report too many times prior for us to chalk it up as being merely hearsay. And honestly, the movie’s teaser trailer seems to play in line with this theorized sequence, since it included several scenes that looked like they could be part of what’s being reported (BB-8 frantically rolling to his destination, Rey speeding away, etc.).

What happens when the youngsters fly away with Han remains to be seen, but now we probably know how their adventure begins.

Luke Skywalker (only a few minutes of screen time?)

MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW THIS POINT!



The heroes suffer a great blow when they lose their mentor figure [Han Solo]. But after a great duel with Rey and Finn versus Kylo Ren, the heroes return back to the base as heroes. At this point, it becomes clear that their current adventure together has come to an end.



We follow our main hero, Rey as she says goodbye to the important players in the film, Leia, Poe, and so on. Meanwhile BB-8, Artoo-Detoo, and See-Threepio decode a puzzle. Rey makes a special stop to say goodbye to Finn in the medical bay.



Rey, Chewbacca, and BB-8 then get into the Falcon and take off. Chewbacca playfully messes up her hair in an endearing gesture. Things are going to be alright, is what the Wookiee is trying to say, as far as I can tell.



I imagine like all Star Wars films, the end is silent with music playing. That’s just my take though. But it seems likely here. They fly away to a new planet and the Falcon lands.



Rey walks up the stone steps. She comes up to a figure and puts the Lightsaber in his hand. Its Luke Skywalker.







That’s it. That’s Luke’s involvement in the entire movie according to that report.

Already sounds like a wasted plot.
 
Guinness was in a lot of films before...

The Bridge on River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia who btw played with Omar Shariff one of my favorite old actors.

I mean just look at his roles before 1977
https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=alec+guinness+movies

Versus Harrsion Ford and Mark Hamill

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=harrison+ford+movies

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=mark+hamil+movies

If anything they got their starts from Star Wars yes... But people like Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing had roles and known. I mean Peter Cushing did the original Dracula in 58' so that's 20 years in film history before Star Wars.

When I saw the OT in theaters I only knew of Cushing from the Dracula and a few other movies in the genre....and I was born in the late 1960's.

Years after seeing the OT I became aware of the other movies the stars were in......and that's the point I'm making.....none were really household names to my generation when the OT came out.
 
Something occurs to me, about some of the leaked plot points and so forth, specifically about the amount of (very limited) screen time of a certain main character: without spoiling anything for anyone, a certain main character is only supposedly going to appear in two scenes, a flashback and the very ending of the movie. I just wonder, though: might this leak be from the earlier, and more-or-less scrapped, Michael Arndt script? Just a thought.
 
Guinness was in a lot of films before...

The Bridge on River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia who btw played with Omar Shariff one of my favorite old actors.

I mean just look at his roles before 1977
https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=alec+guinness+movies

Versus Harrsion Ford and Mark Hamill

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=harrison+ford+movies

https://www.google.com/#safe=active&q=mark+hamil+movies

If anything they got their starts from Star Wars yes... But people like Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing had roles and known. I mean Peter Cushing did the original Dracula in 58' so that's 20 years in film history before Star Wars.

I've always found Guinness's love/hate relationship with SW fascinating. From wikipedia:

Star Wars[edit]
Guinness's role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars trilogy, beginning in 1977, brought him worldwide recognition by a new generation, as well as Golden Globe and Academy Award nominations. In letters to his friends, Guinness described the film as "fairy tale rubbish," but the film's sense of moral good – and the studio's doubling of his initial salary offer – appealed to him, and he signed on.[18] He was one of the few cast members who believed that the film would be a box office hit; he negotiated a deal for 2% of the gross royalties paid to the director, George Lucas, who received one fifth of the box office takings. This made him very wealthy in his later life, and he agreed to take the part of Kenobi on the condition that he would not have to do any publicity to promote the film. Upon his first viewing of the film, Guinness wrote in his diary that "It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle and technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but it remains a vivid experience."[19]

However, Guinness soon became unhappy with being identified with the part, and expressed dismay at the fan-following that the Star Wars trilogy attracted. In the DVD commentary of the original Star Wars, director George Lucas says that Guinness was not happy with the script re-write in which Obi-Wan is killed. However, Guinness said in a 1999 interview that it was actually his idea to kill off Obi-Wan, persuading Lucas that it would make him a stronger character, and that Lucas agreed to the idea. Guinness stated in the interview, "What I didn't tell Lucas was that I just couldn't go on speaking those bloody awful, banal lines. I'd had enough of the mumbo jumbo." He went on to say that he "shrivelled up" every time Star Wars was mentioned to him.[20]

Although Guinness disliked the fame that followed work he did not esteem,[19] Lucas and fellow cast members Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Anthony Daniels and Carrie Fisher have spoken highly of his courtesy and professionalism, both on and off the set. Lucas credited him with inspiring cast and crew to work harder, saying that Guinness contributed significantly to achieving completion of the filming. Guinness was quoted as saying that the royalties he obtained from working on the films gave him "no complaints; let me leave it by saying I can live for the rest of my life in the reasonably modest way I am now used to, that I have no debts and I can afford to refuse work that doesn't appeal to me." In his autobiography, Blessings In Disguise, Guinness tells an imaginary interviewer "Blessed be Star Wars", regarding the income it provided.[21]

In the final volume of the book A Positively Final Appearance (1997), Guinness recounts grudgingly giving an autograph to a young fan who claimed to have watched Star Wars over 100 times, on the condition that the boy promise to stop watching the film, because, as Guinness told him, "this is going to be an ill effect on your life." The fan was stunned at first, but later thanked him (though some sources say it went differently). Guinness is quoted as saying: "'Well,' I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. His mother drew herself up to an immense height. 'What a dreadful thing to say to a child!' she barked, and dragged the poor kid away. Maybe she was right but I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities."[22] Guinness grew so tired of modern audiences apparently knowing him only for his role of Obi-Wan Kenobi that he would throw away the mail he received from Star Wars fans without reading it.[23]
 
:lecture Very good read. I don't blame him for feeling that way about his Star Wars fame. He was very good in The Bridge on the River Kwai.
 
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