WOW I never thought about the fact that Padme was the original Owner of R2 and that Luke ends up with both his parents droids..
I actually think this is all brilliance by Lucas now
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WOW I never thought about the fact that Padme was the original Owner of R2 and that Luke ends up with both his parents droids..
I actually think this is all brilliance by Lucas now
That Vader comic is worse than anything in ST....
Yeah Vader feels for a droid....just not the dozens of kids he killed....
Sheez.....talk about out of character....
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Yeah Vader feels for a droid....just not the dozens of kids he killed....
Sheez.....talk about out of character....
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Agreed. One thing Vader is not is sentimental.
Vader having a helmet-cuddle with Threepio's decapitated head is quite a ridiculous image. You just can't retrofit that whole thing. If you have to then it probably makes more sense for Vader to totally disregard Threepio anyway.
Actually I don’t have any problems with that comic except for that cuddly helmet panel. Just excise that from my brain and all is A.O.K.
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Jedi were his sworn enemies..didnt matter if they were kids, woman, elderly. Why should he felt for his enemies ?
C-3PO on the other hand was his first droid that he built as a kid, something very close to him..
Basic things just too much for you ?
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That comic was never canon BTW. It was from Star Wars Tales, which were "what if" stories. Still nice tho.
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We’ve gone from What If comics to If, Then movies.
If I like it, Then it’s canon.
If I like it, Then it’s canon.
No need to get insulting. No, basic things are not too much for me.
Basically its stupid.
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"Real heroes don't fight." "The Jedi are pacifists." Some TLJ apolagists are taking this argument seriously.
Luke: "I can't kill my own father." Obi Wan: "Then the Emperor has already won."
When will it be realized that the Commissars making these arguments don't give a **** about SW.
Luke: "I can't kill my own father." Obi Wan: "Then the Emperor has already won."
When will it be realized that the Commissars making these arguments don't give a **** about SW.
You seriously went and hunted for four separate videos just to counter statements that no one has actually said?
“A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never to attack.” I’m not sure if I am 100% quoting Yoda correctly, but that doesn’t sound like pacifism to me.
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You seriously went and hunted for four separate videos just to counter statements that no one has actually said?
Thus ends the debate.
Oh that's what some dope over at esquire.com is saying? Then why don't you go post your youtube links over there, lol. Why are you countering things that people are saying on other sites as if its the opinion of anyone who is actually participating in this thread?
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How is this still happening? How are BOTH sides of the TLJ debate still misinterpreting the ending of ROTJ? Luke didn't drop his saber as a statement against violence in general - even violence against evil! FFS!! That interpretation is mind-boggling. But equally mind-boggling is the interpretation that Luke did it to spare Vader from death out of mercy for his conquered victim. WHAT!!?
Luke didn't want to kill his father. But Yoda and Kenobi both let him know that he had to confront Vader. So Luke relied on reaching the remnants of Anakin within Vader. His "confronting" of Vader was to bring himself before him by surrendering on Endor. His intent was to convince his father to turn on Palpatine and save himself, his family, and the galaxy. But Luke was able to do this only because, if he failed, his friends would still end up destroying the Death Star and taking Palpatine (and Vader) with it. Luke's intentions were entirely based on the Emperor BEING KILLED!!! That was the end game. When Palpatine showed that he was aware of (and prepared for) the Rebel assault on the DS, everything changed for Luke.
At that point, killing the Emperor himself was Luke's impulsive reaction to save his friends from dying. And Vader stopped him. So Luke was forced to keep the saber battle going just to survive. But when he got a chance to hide, he took it. He still didn't want to kill his father. This came mere seconds after very much wanting to kill the Emperor. Luke only re-engaged Vader when Leia was invoked as a potential target for converting to the Dark Side. He stopped himself from killing Vader when he heard Palps laughing, looked down at Vader's newly-created stump where his hand used to be, and then looked down at his own hand that Vader had once sliced off. He realized that he was in danger of becoming just like Vader, and being corrupted by the Dark side. That's when he tossed his weapon away.
What people are conveniently forgetting is that even after Luke stood his ground in refusing to become an instrument of Palpatine, he still realized that violent resistance was the only way to survive. When he was being attacked by the Emperor's lightning, Luke called out to his father for help. Luke's cries were not to say, "Daddy, please talk this guy out of roasting my ass!" It was more like, "Dad, kill this mother ****** and save me!" And Vader did.
I'm pretty sure that Lucas wrote it simply enough so that even children could understand, so it's hilarious (and sad) that adults are still missing the point 35 years later.
Luke didn't want to kill his father. But Yoda and Kenobi both let him know that he had to confront Vader. So Luke relied on reaching the remnants of Anakin within Vader. His "confronting" of Vader was to bring himself before him by surrendering on Endor. His intent was to convince his father to turn on Palpatine and save himself, his family, and the galaxy. But Luke was able to do this only because, if he failed, his friends would still end up destroying the Death Star and taking Palpatine (and Vader) with it. Luke's intentions were entirely based on the Emperor BEING KILLED!!! That was the end game. When Palpatine showed that he was aware of (and prepared for) the Rebel assault on the DS, everything changed for Luke.
At that point, killing the Emperor himself was Luke's impulsive reaction to save his friends from dying. And Vader stopped him. So Luke was forced to keep the saber battle going just to survive. But when he got a chance to hide, he took it. He still didn't want to kill his father. This came mere seconds after very much wanting to kill the Emperor. Luke only re-engaged Vader when Leia was invoked as a potential target for converting to the Dark Side. He stopped himself from killing Vader when he heard Palps laughing, looked down at Vader's newly-created stump where his hand used to be, and then looked down at his own hand that Vader had once sliced off. He realized that he was in danger of becoming just like Vader, and being corrupted by the Dark side. That's when he tossed his weapon away.
What people are conveniently forgetting is that even after Luke stood his ground in refusing to become an instrument of Palpatine, he still realized that violent resistance was the only way to survive. When he was being attacked by the Emperor's lightning, Luke called out to his father for help. Luke's cries were not to say, "Daddy, please talk this guy out of roasting my ass!" It was more like, "Dad, kill this mother ****** and save me!" And Vader did.
I'm pretty sure that Lucas wrote it simply enough so that even children could understand, so it's hilarious (and sad) that adults are still missing the point 35 years later.
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Quoting arguments from other sites in order to quote response videos from other sites.
FFS cut out the middle man, bruh!
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A safe assumption that folks here would agree with the writer.
I think the point of Luke attacking the unarmed Emperor was to show his slip toward the dark side.
As was his brutal attack on his father.
His throwing the lightsaber away was tantamount to suicide. If he didn’t have a problem attacking the Emperor, he could have easily done so at that point as Vader was down , and as far as Luke knew, Palpatine was an old man.....
Instead, he throws his saber away, and essentially says , “do what you must”.
He did the same by turning himself into Vader on Endor. He even looks a bit scared when Vader ignites the Green saber.
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As was his brutal attack on his father.
His throwing the lightsaber away was tantamount to suicide. If he didn’t have a problem attacking the Emperor, he could have easily done so at that point as Vader was down , and as far as Luke knew, Palpatine was an old man.....
Instead, he throws his saber away, and essentially says , “do what you must”.
He did the same by turning himself into Vader on Endor. He even looks a bit scared when Vader ignites the Green saber.
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