Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Vault Boy]

What the **** is that?

 

[loki2371]

All of the Finn and Poe stuff was worthless if the FO used a little piece of technology called "Looking with your Eyes" Even ifthe FO they was too far away to see the escape pod with their eyes, this film expects me to believe that they cant tell the whole rebel fleet is evacuating the ship... What about "reading the life forms"

Just a dumb plot convenience.. That is all DJ was good for.. Nothing more.. Nothing less. HE was there to give reason to the awful subplot and since the entire subplot sucked and forced me to watch the worst sequence in the series along with the 2nd worst character in the series it ends up feeling like a complete waste of time. Especially when you look at the fact the FO should have been able to tell they were evacuating.. Still could have had Haldo turn the ship around and complete her suicide run. Shave off 30 min of boring filler that way.

You point to Phasma.. Thought her purpose was fulfilled in the first film.. Finn got his "revenge" then... But hey Second revenge is always sweeter. But it did nothing to add to his character that should not have already been there.

Well it was part of him becoming a true "rebel scum" Yeah great.. And when it might really mean something and he will put his own needs behind that of the rebellion... Selfish Poe sacrifices the rebellion for her own schoolgirl crush..

Yeah Stuff happened.. Stupid, pointless, worthless stuff.

The film was filled with it.

But yeah stuff happened.

I said similar things awhile ago... Khev never replied. Maybe he has me blocked??

Sooooo, without the betrayal of the great DJ, the FO would have had no idea that little ships were leaving the big ship. They can turn a planet into a giant weapon, travel in hyperspace that need precise calculations, track other ships in hyperspace, but they don't have any type of tech that would detect little ships leaving the big ship. I guess the bridge just has a few guys with space binoculars looking out into the beyond then? I guess they're just so small they're scanner can't detect them?

Wasn't it in the very first movie, Ep4, that the empire detected escape pods were jettisoned from the Tantive IV, and even scan them for life forms? (Oh yeah, none of that matters anymore cause it never happened. Kennedy and Johnson just like to make stuff up and pretend TLJ is so revolutionary that all that came before will be forgotten.) I guess the FO is also dumb enough to think that when the big ship runs out of fuel, all the resistance will just sit tight and die, not try to escape in escape pods... Or maybe they believe the resistance is so dumb that they don't even have escape pods on their command ships??

Just so many questions... I'm so confused. My brain hurts. Someone make it stop.....

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What the **** is that?

A pug.

Not to be confused with a Porg.

 

[Vault Boy]

A pug.

Not to be confused with a Porg.

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[Popnfresh98]

So the Mary Sue thing is cause people don’t like she’s naturally powerful , even more powerful than Vader was after years of training....

I see that.

BUT , what if she is something new? Granted that can only work if they explain it. Which is the main complaint for many fans I think....very little in explanations...

I can respect that.


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Winner winner chicken dinner! Yes... let’s see which direction J.J. takes this in now..

All of the Finn and Poe stuff was worthless if the FO used a little piece of technology called "Looking with your Eyes" Even ifthe FO they was too far away to see the escape pod with their eyes, this film expects me to believe that they cant tell the whole rebel fleet is evacuating the ship... What about "reading the life forms"

Just a dumb plot convenience.. That is all DJ was good for.. Nothing more.. Nothing less. HE was there to give reason to the awful subplot and since the entire subplot sucked and forced me to watch the worst sequence in the series along with the 2nd worst character in the series it ends up feeling like a complete waste of time. Especially when you look at the fact the FO should have been able to tell they were evacuating.. Still could have had Haldo turn the ship around and complete her suicide run. Shave off 30 min of boring filler that way.

You point to Phasma.. Thought her purpose was fulfilled in the first film.. Finn got his "revenge" then... But hey Second revenge is always sweeter. But it did nothing to add to his character that should not have already been there.

Well it was part of him becoming a true "rebel scum" Yeah great.. And when it might really mean something and he will put his own needs behind that of the rebellion... Selfish Poe sacrifices the rebellion for her own schoolgirl crush..

Yeah Stuff happened.. Stupid, pointless, worthless stuff.

The film was filled with it.

But yeah stuff happened.

Also you clearly saw the Poe loves Finn cut people were pining for <3

 

[Lakhota]

It was directly from the Microsoft store's didgital DL's on the Xbox... Last week it Was $39.99 for a hard copy in TRU I believe...

Thank you I just ordered one,39.99 free shipping isn’t bad at all! Thanks again


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[loki2371]

Thank you I just ordered one,39.99 free shipping isn’t bad at all! Thanks again


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What is that supposed to mean?

SNIKT is the pug.

Did you ever hear the tragedy of SNIKT "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story Khev would tell you. It's a SSF legend. SNIKT was so powerful and so wise he could use the threads to create fan fiction. He had such a knowledge of the SW canon, he could even keep the ones he cared about from liking the sequel trilogy. The dark side of the forum is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his fan fiction, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, Rian Johnson killed him in his sleep. It's ironic, he could save others from the ST, but not himself.

 

[RIDDICK]

What is that supposed to mean?

Iraq "war veteran".

 

[Popnfresh98]

SNIKT is the pug.

Did you ever hear the tragedy of SNIKT "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story Khev would tell you. It's a SSF legend. SNIKT was so powerful and so wise he could use the threads to create fan fiction. He had such a knowledge of the SW canon, he could even keep the ones he cared about from liking the sequel trilogy. The dark side of the forum is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his fan fiction, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, Rian Johnson killed him in his sleep. It's ironic, he could save others from the ST, but not himself."

 

[JAWS]

Have to ask this.. Just watched a video about what this film got right.. One of the things mentioned is that it showed that "anybody" could be the hero..

Was that not already stressed in the OT??

I mean Han, Chewie, R2, Lando, Ewoks, 3PO, Obi Wan, Leia, Akbar, Lobot lol) The films are filled with hero's.. So why do people think this film does something special.. Because they got an awkward Asian in a main role?

Oh but you don't have to have special parents to be strong with the force.

But was that not shown in the PT??

There were tons of people strong with the force... Not just the Skywalkers.. So its no surprise that a slave with a broom might have the force or a girl abandoned by her parents.. I don't get it... I don't get the message.

I have heard people say that this was the message here on the board.. Used for both an argument for and against the film.. But again how if this different from the other films?? I mean Luke was the only one who was special in the OT (Leia latter).. But again the PT showed that the force was something you were born with..This film did nothing to negate that..

Some have used this argument for why Rey is strong with the force.. You can come from nothing and still be there hero... Which the OT still showed.. But its not the coming from nothing detractors have an issue with.. Its being so good at it that is the problem... But again... I don't get what the New films were trying to prove.. If anything.

Any answers out there either way??? I think that the "anyone can be a hero" message is overblown no matter which side you are looking at it.

 

[DiFabio]

PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE SCORE! LOOKIE HERE INSTEAD!

So ****ing embarrassing.

It gets even better, "adjusted" score of 106.601% now ******s!












I changed my mind, THIS is the best Star Wars film ever, easily taking #1 as my top pick. Very cool.

 

[xipotec]

Have to ask this.. Just watched a video about what this film got right.. One of the things mentioned is that it showed that "anybody" could be the hero..

Was that not already stressed in the OT??

I mean Han, Chewie, R2, Lando, Ewoks, 3PO, Obi Wan, Leia, Akbar, Lobot lol) The films are filled with hero's.. So why do people think this film does something special.. Because they got an awkward Asian in a main role?

Oh but you don't have to have special parents to be strong with the force.

But was that not shown in the PT??

There were tons of people strong with the force... Not just the Skywalkers.. So its no surprise that a slave with a broom might have the force or a girl abandoned by her parents.. I don't get it... I don't get the message.

I have heard people say that this was the message here on the board.. Used for both an argument for and against the film.. But again how if this different from the other films?? I mean Luke was the only one who was special in the OT (Leia latter).. But again the PT showed that the force was something you were born with..This film did nothing to negate that..

Some have used this argument for why Rey is strong with the force.. You can come from nothing and still be there hero... Which the OT still showed.. But its not the coming from nothing detractors have an issue with.. Its being so good at it that is the problem... But again... I don't get what the New films were trying to prove.. If anything.

Any answers out there either way??? I think that the "anyone can be a hero" message is overblown no matter which side you are looking at it.

I got the impression from Nurse Qui Gon’s blood test on little orphan Ani, that it was in your blood line somehow.

He asks Shimi who the father was also....

Like that would matter if it could just pop up in anyone.

I agree OT made it seem like anyone could do it.


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[Prime Clone]

Rey’s “training” came from a lifetime of surviving as a scavenger. She mastered hand-to-hand combat and piloted a variety of rustbuckets. Her awakening Force powers merely augmented those existing skills.

 

[xipotec]

Rey’s “training” came from a lifetime of surviving as a scavenger. She mastered hand-to-hand combat and piloted a variety of rustbuckets. Her awakening Force powers merely augmented those existing skills.

This is stressed a lot more in the novel.


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[Darkseed]

Granted, but again years/many months passed between Ep IV - VI. So it's easy to accept Luke's progression in the force if not seen on screen. Once someone has the basics or fundamentals taught to them, they can continue to train themselves and grow t heir abilities on their own. They don't have to have lessons from a teacher every day. .

A lot is being forgiven for one series and not another. That’s ok however; it doesn’t make a sound argument.

Assuming months / years passed from ANH / ESB, the 5 mins of training Luke received on the Falcon was enough to get the basics to teach himself. Yet Anakin required 12+ years of mentoring etc?

As I mentioned, asking me to be forgiving of things that’s plagued the series since PT introduced holes is easier to take than many of the other issues plaguing the new series

 

[DiFabio]

I agree OT made it seem like anyone could do it.

Until Return of the Jedi.

 

[klwn]

But was that not shown in the PT??

There were tons of people strong with the force... Not just the Skywalkers.. So its no surprise that a slave with a broom might have the force or a girl abandoned by her parents.. I don't get it... I don't get the message.

Yes. It makes no sense to me.

That's one good thing about not hating the PT, you actually 'know' the movies, and therefore the SW universe as a whole.
When you limit your knowledge to 77-83, you come up with dumb arguments like that, because you forgot about all the padawans and 'normal' people that became strong Force users or even Council members.

Even better than that: Palpatine was no one. He came from a political family who didn't have any affinity with the Force. The most powerful Sith of all time in canon

What Disney is doing is nothing new. They are just executing it poorly.

 

[Popnfresh98]

Have to ask this.. Just watched a video about what this film got right.. One of the things mentioned is that it showed that "anybody" could be the hero..

Was that not already stressed in the OT??

I mean Han, Chewie, R2, Lando, Ewoks, 3PO, Obi Wan, Leia, Akbar, Lobot lol) The films are filled with hero's.. So why do people think this film does something special.. Because they got an awkward Asian in a main role?

Oh but you don't have to have special parents to be strong with the force.

But was that not shown in the PT??

There were tons of people strong with the force... Not just the Skywalkers.. So its no surprise that a slave with a broom might have the force or a girl abandoned by her parents.. I don't get it... I don't get the message.

I have heard people say that this was the message here on the board.. Used for both an argument for and against the film.. But again how if this different from the other films?? I mean Luke was the only one who was special in the OT (Leia latter).. But again the PT showed that the force was something you were born with..This film did nothing to negate that..

Some have used this argument for why Rey is strong with the force.. You can come from nothing and still be there hero... Which the OT still showed.. But its not the coming from nothing detractors have an issue with.. Its being so good at it that is the problem... But again... I don't get what the New films were trying to prove.. If anything.

Any answers out there either way??? I think that the "anyone can be a hero" message is overblown no matter which side you are looking at it.

It’s not, you’re completely right. Broom boy isn’t a new concept - the Jedi have always been finding random force sensitive kids and training them. But somehow he learned force pull on his own. And RO also shows that ‘anyone can be a hero’ as you said. All the examples you cited are heroes. Padme as a senator is a hero too.

The only message in the ST so far is that anyone can skip the training and start using their superpowers.

It gets even better, "adjusted" score of 106.601% now ******s!



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I changed my mind, THIS is the best Star Wars film ever, easily taking #1 as my top pick. Very cool.

This... is ... hilarious!! 106% cannot be wrong!

 

[klwn]

It gets even better, "adjusted" score of 106.601% now ******s!



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I changed my mind, THIS is the best Star Wars film ever, easily taking #1 as my top pick. Very cool.

How much harder can they try?

Adjusted score? Is this ****ing real?