Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Craig Walker]

Because kids are still in school compared to this time in 2015.

Source to back this up?

Kids are out here.

 

[YoNoSe]

As someone who does not believe in the Disney Payoff Conspiracy and generally does use Rottentomatoes as a tool to easily find reviews rounded up (as opposed to going to individual sites) it really is a puzzle how they decide to quantify a fresh or rotten review. I've seen it go both ways.

But similarly I've been reading reviews since there were newspapers and dinosaurs and I would also wonder how a critic would quantify their own score (be it stars, 1-10, pass/fail or whatever) when the text of their review did not seem to support the score.

It's not an exact science.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Haha damn you're right... I completely forgot.

The times... they are a-changing.

I wonder if Disney can take "ownership" of Avatar's record? Can Disney claim for promotional purposes to have the biggest movie of all time? Also, Titanic was partially funded by Fox, which is now owned by Disney.

 

[Popnfresh98]

Source to back this up?

I am one person who has never left a RT review before - this was the first time due to my disappointment
this movie had some good parts but overall was handled poorly in the story and character development

I know some people liked the film, but I don't think the audience score on Rotten Tomato is wrong or even manipulated to the extent that people are writing articles about to give an excuse why it is so low, if it was really being manipulated, I think we would have seen the same results for Rogue One and The Force Awakens - both of which I liked a lot and have a high audience review scores

Quoted for more truth, I personally don't ever leave reviews but I can see why others would make an account to do so. Doesn't mean we just discount them as trolls. Also right on with the comparison to TFA and RO.

 

[Craig Walker]

Lol because I asked or because there won’t be one?

 

[jye4ever]

As someone who does not believe in the Disney Payoff Conspiracy and generally does use Rottentomatoes as a tool to easily find reviews rounded up (as opposed to going to individual sites) it really is a puzzle how they decide to quantify a fresh or rotten review. I've seen it go both ways.

But similarly I've been reading reviews since there were newspapers and dinosaurs and I would also wonder how a critic would quantify their own score (be it stars, 1-10, pass/fail or whatever) when the text of their review did not seem to support the score.

It's not an exact science.

Yeah screw it all if you like it that’s all that matters the rest is all noise.

 

[rushmore223]

The truth is coming out on that RT fan score no surprise really:

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/1...t-jedi-and-its-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score

Yeah, I posted about this a few days ago, but since I read the article on my phone, I couldn't link to it. Very Informative though.

Of course nearly everybody on here rejected it.

 

[Khev]

Because kids are still in school compared to this time in 2015.

Source to back this up?

Aside from my own kids who are currently in school?

Sure: https://www.google.com/amp/deadline...e-last-jedi-monday-box-office-1202229621/amp/

 

[Craig Walker]

Every one of those reviews has commentary with it. I can bots write a narrative also? Asking seriously.

I find it a mile easier to trust a site with commentary with the reviews, versus a Metacritic which has a “take my word for it“ poll.

 

[RIDDICK]

Of course nearly everybody on here rejected it.

And instead talked about criticss score, were 2/5 is somehow fresh.

WHO THE **** CARES?!

 

[Sachiel]

Re: The Last Jedi OBJECTIVELY sucks. Your feelings are irrelevant.

The movie goes so far to undermine traditional western understandings of epistemology that it literally BURNS DOWN A LIBRARY, as Yoda tells Luke that the acquisition of knowledge is unimportant: Everything Rey needs to know is inside her.

Then we see that Rey took the books with her and stored them in a drawer on the Falcon.

 

[JAWS]

For those that might think this will tank its second weekend... I have talked to a lot of people who are waiting for the Christmas break... So I think this thing will do very well, deserving or not.

 

[Craig Walker]

Aside from my own kids who are currently in school?

Sure: https://www.google.com/amp/deadline...e-last-jedi-monday-box-office-1202229621/amp/

Ok. Let’s see if it rises when everyone’s out.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

For those that might think this will tank its second weekend... I have talked to a lot of people who are waiting for the Christmas break... So I think this thing will do very well, deserving or not.

You're so positive and optimistic, like the OT Luke or like Superman in JL.

 

[Craig Walker]

I don’t think many diehard fans are going for repeat viewings. (I won’t go again, won’t buy their BluRay). That’s what I’m curious to see.

 

[rushmore223]

Everybody ( including grace) talks about how the cinemascore is the only score that reveals the truth or the only score that truly asked audiences......


But seriously think about who they asked.... who was there friday night, who reserved their tickets weeks ago..

But by the logic others have been using in regards to this film, the hardcore fans are (supposedly) the ones that are the most critical of it.

 

[TaliBane]

As someone who does not believe in the Disney Payoff Conspiracy and generally does use Rottentomatoes as a tool to easily find reviews rounded up (as opposed to going to individual sites) it really is a puzzle how they decide to quantify a fresh or rotten review. I've seen it go both ways.

But similarly I've been reading reviews since there were newspapers and dinosaurs and I would also wonder how a critic would quantify their own score (be it stars, 1-10, pass/fail or whatever) when the text of their review did not seem to support the score.

It's not an exact science.

Reviews are about discussing a film's pluses and minuses, and the Ebert/thumbs thing certainly was a step that the major film corporations embraced as a more valuable marketing tool than just words.

But when a review that is clearly "I didn't like this film at all" in tone - as the Variety and CNN reviews clearly are (CNN even openly questions Disney's decision to give a new trilogy to Johnson) - is placed in the "Fresh" column, you really have to wonder if something is up.

Particularly in the context of the Disney/Fox deal, placing unprecedented, truly game-changing power in the hands of a single corporation. Most on here probably have no way of understanding the staggering ramifications of that deal - many in Hollywood are calling it the "big one'... in terms of a catastrophic earthquake.

The idea that new level of power couldn't alter RT and the broader media reaction to the backlash is laughable.

 

[jye4ever]

Begun the SW Civil War has.

 

[YoNoSe]

Begun the SW Civil War has.

Didn't it start in '99?

I wasn't active in internet discussion back then. Is this what the reaction was like to TPM? I imagine it's much worse since the internet has become so crtique-centric as time's gone by.

 

[TaliBane]