''Get real. So this movie could disguise itself as Mr Hanky the Christmas poo?''
No. Only a turd of equal size.
Oh Sweet Baby Jesus, even Emilia Clarke's ass (or that of her body double) can't save this movie.
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Watched T2 for the first time in quite a while. Man, it's amazing how good a job Cameron and Arnold did at retaining the "machine" aspect of the T-800 even with some of the more light-hearted aspects. Right off the bat in the biker bar when he demands the guy's boots and clothes and the dude says, "You forgot to say please." Well we already know that the idiot from T3 and probably Genisys would have awkwardly said "Please." You know, talk to the hand, okay, and all that. But the Terminator just stands there, not seeing any reason to follow up with a response. The guy damages his skin, he breaks his hand, mayhem ensues. The whole fight (while sanitized compared to the thugs in T1) is sitll pretty brutal and far from "comedic."
And just ignoring the aspects of how they changed the tone of the T1 story and so forth I really found Arnold's "Uncle Bob" to be quite likable throughout the movie. He REALLY does act like a machine for so much of the movie that when he does pause and play high five or make some comment it really is a genuinely amusing change of pace. Even his "Stay here, I'll be back" is quite a low key delivery. Not "Stay here, I'll BE BACK HAR HAR HAR wink wink!"
At the end of the movie it really starts to feel like Arnold is coming "alive" and emoting and caring for John ("John, you've got to go NOW,") but at the end they really convey that tragically it was all just his programming, that he never felt anything at all. When he hugs John he is clearly going through the motions, when Sarah shakes his hand and nods at him he responds to the gesture but turns his head and steps onto the hook as if her sentiment didn't register at all.
BRUTAL.
I had to chuckle watching the final brawl between Arnold and the T-1000 remembering that someone who's a part of Genysis recently said "The opening fight between the two T-800's is going to be so much better than when Arnold fought Robert Patrick." Yeah, never the best idea to say, "our action is gong to be so much better than when James Cameron did it."
Watched T2 for the first time in quite a while. Man, it's amazing how good a job Cameron and Arnold did at retaining the "machine" aspect of the T-800 even with some of the more light-hearted aspects. Right off the bat in the biker bar when he demands the guy's boots and clothes and the dude says, "You forgot to say please." Well we already know that the idiot from T3 and probably Genisys would have awkwardly said "Please." You know, talk to the hand, okay, and all that. But the Terminator just stands there, not seeing any reason to follow up with a response. The guy damages his skin, he breaks his hand, mayhem ensues. The whole fight (while sanitized compared to the thugs in T1) is sitll pretty brutal and far from "comedic."
And just ignoring the aspects of how they changed the tone of the T1 story and so forth I really found Arnold's "Uncle Bob" to be quite likable throughout the movie. He REALLY does act like a machine for so much of the movie that when he does pause and play high five or make some comment it really is a genuinely amusing change of pace. Even his "Stay here, I'll be back" is quite a low key delivery. Not "Stay here, I'll BE BACK HAR HAR HAR wink wink!"
At the end of the movie it really starts to feel like Arnold is coming "alive" and emoting and caring for John ("John, you've got to go NOW,") but at the end they really convey that tragically it was all just his programming, that he never felt anything at all. When he hugs John he is clearly going through the motions, when Sarah shakes his hand and nods at him he responds to the gesture but turns his head and steps onto the hook as if her sentiment didn't register at all.
BRUTAL.
I had to chuckle watching the final brawl between Arnold and the T-1000 remembering that someone who's a part of Genysis recently said "The opening fight between the two T-800's is going to be so much better than when Arnold fought Robert Patrick." Yeah, never the best idea to say, "our action is gong to be so much better than when James Cameron did it."
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This is what I've always been saying in defence of T2. The world of the movie and the T-800 itself were written and played in a plausible way where I could believe it and take it seriously as the same world and the same type of machine as in the first film. For me it only differed in that A) obviously the T-800 didn't kill anyone and B) his flesh didn't seem to start rotting as it did in T1, they kept him looking ''cool'' the whole time rather than making him look scary and zombie like.
And agreed on the ending - ''I know now why you cry but it's something I can never do'', all due respect to Plastic Bateman, but I think that was the T-800 using a metaphor rather than meaning that he literally couldn't cry because of no tear ducts. He has to have tear ducts to keep his eyes moist just so they don't shrivel and rot from his head, so I doubt that's what he was meaning. Rather I believe he couldn't cry because he was incapable of feeling emotion. He could only learn 'about' emotion and understand the circumstances in which a human would be happy or be sad. And he learned the right things to say and the right gestures to make - hugging John, shaking Sarah's hand - but as Khev said he was really just ''going through the motions''.
There's only one thing that makes me doubt this interpretation and that is that in a deleted part of the script Sarah was supposed to ask ''are you afraid?'' and he was to respond ''yes''...apparently. That would have been awful IMO - and it seems it's the direction they're taking it with T:Genisys. However I'd love to ask Cameron what his true intention was at the end of T2.
Watched T2 for the first time in quite a while. Man, it's amazing how good a job Cameron and Arnold did at retaining the "machine" aspect of the T-800 even with some of the more light-hearted aspects. Right off the bat in the biker bar when he demands the guy's boots and clothes and the dude says, "You forgot to say please." Well we already know that the idiot from T3 and probably Genisys would have awkwardly said "Please." You know, talk to the hand, okay, and all that. But the Terminator just stands there, not seeing any reason to follow up with a response. The guy damages his skin, he breaks his hand, mayhem ensues. The whole fight (while sanitized compared to the thugs in T1) is sitll pretty brutal and far from "comedic."
And just ignoring the aspects of how they changed the tone of the T1 story and so forth I really found Arnold's "Uncle Bob" to be quite likable throughout the movie. He REALLY does act like a machine for so much of the movie that when he does pause and play high five or make some comment it really is a genuinely amusing change of pace. Even his "Stay here, I'll be back" is quite a low key delivery. Not "Stay here, I'll BE BACK HAR HAR HAR wink wink!"
At the end of the movie it really starts to feel like Arnold is coming "alive" and emoting and caring for John ("John, you've got to go NOW,") but at the end they really convey that tragically it was all just his programming, that he never felt anything at all. When he hugs John he is clearly going through the motions, when Sarah shakes his hand and nods at him he responds to the gesture but turns his head and steps onto the hook as if her sentiment didn't register at all.
BRUTAL.
I had to chuckle watching the final brawl between Arnold and the T-1000 remembering that someone who's a part of Genysis recently said "The opening fight between the two T-800's is going to be so much better than when Arnold fought Robert Patrick." Yeah, never the best idea to say, "our action is gong to be so much better than when James Cameron did it."
