me and laudanum09 gave specific examples of cheesy lines in the other movies. which lines are you talking about in salvation?
so far, all you've got is fanboy melodrama and hyperbole. if you're gonna be a message board troll at least try to back up your point.
come on now, he's not a troll, just an unattractive elf. just kidding
I agree though, there's a lot of hyperbole. Ideal > actuality for a lot of people who are big fans. Sometimes these aren't for theoretical reasons, like a political analysis of a film, a breakdown and critique of different choreography or cinematography, but because they're not the same or better to the picture and fantasy they have in their minds.
Some movies are just better because of the way your brain has melded that viewing experience with one's first, often as a child when the impact is much larger. We are willing to excuse and not even see the imperfections of our beloved canons but hold new films up to intense, intense scrutiny, a scrutiny one would find difficult to legitimately or objectively hold up to the originals.
Some thoughts:
1.)TS had some cheesiness but barely any imho, it rather had lots of awkwardly acted scenes, scenes whose lines really weren't all that terrible. Serena for example was just kind of awkward and badly done...there was something 'hackish' about her acting, I dunno what it was exactly. It was a decent scene in theory and Marcus constantly taking shots at her was really good, but just kind of poorly executed. Bale's lines were fine for me, just ocasionally delivered a bit too over-dramatically (My men DIED down there...We've been at war since...)I wouldn't call this cheesy, just bad acting and poor pacing....now this is cheese:
2.) "I came across time for you sarah" and their subsequent love making. The edits and the music just screamed HBO porn to me. I bought the passion because the story is great and I love that kind of 'time travel meets love' kind of stuff, I shifted mental gears and chose to see it for its intent within the story, reading the melodrama and 'cheese' as part of the character of kyle and the intensity of his emotion. T1 and T2 have a lot of this kind of stuff. Even the beloved, untouchable Linda Hamilton had some imperfections, funky lines, cheese, etc. in both films and I will give examples if asked. Despite this, we all love her and it shouldn't be in spite of any of this stuff but including it all. They're movies.
This is why, despite a sort of hokeyness, I liked the final monologues of TS, especially Marcus. That and the music really did it for me. Coming across time for a love and giving one's heart for a cause, pretty on par.
"Hater". But seriously did you read the article? It's worth checking out.
