Terminator Salvation Officially PG-13

[tylerdurden]

i agree that the story/script/character development is more important than gratuitious violence and nudity.

but this announcement still disturbs me. R rated films have a certain hard edge to them that are somehow missing in pg13 films. the dark knight may be an exception, but even then, some of the scenes were less hard-hitting due to the younger rating. eg: the joker slicing the mouth of the black gangster gambol---they resorted to cutting away and using a music cue to suggest he'd been killed. showing the whole thing would've really driven home the horror of his act. and emphasize even more just how depraved the joker is. but it was a small thing that i could live with.

when it comes to the terminator, the onscreen violence is also somewhat necessary for the same reason. in T2, seeing the t1000 stabbing his victims was gruesome but also important from a character perspective, how he uses his abilities sums up his "character": ruthless, efficient and brutal.

pg-13 terminator salvation worries me.

 

[mattman6886]

i agree that the story/script/character development is more important than gratuitious violence and nudity.

but this announcement still disturbs me. R rated films have a certain hard edge to them that are somehow missing in pg13 films. the dark knight may be an exception, but even then, some of the scenes were less hard-hitting due to the younger rating. eg: the joker slicing the mouth of the black gangster gambol---they resorted to cutting away and using a music cue to suggest he'd been killed. showing the whole thing would've really driven home the horror of his act. and emphasize even more just how depraved the joker is. but it was a small thing that i could live with.

when it comes to the terminator, the onscreen violence is also somewhat necessary for the same reason. in T2, seeing the t1000 stabbing his victims was gruesome but also important from a character perspective, how he uses his abilities sums up his "character": ruthless, efficient and brutal.

pg-13 terminator salvation worries me.

EXACTLY The simple fact is that a PG-13 rating is limiting. This movie is certainly going to be violent considering there's a war going on, and this violence will be much less effective because they shot/cut for the rating. The story doesn't suffer with an R rating, it suffers with a PG-13 (or whatever your country's rating system calls it). I bet all of you who claim not to mind are probably going to get the unrated/ director's cut version when it hits DVD and Bluray anyway.

 

[CelticPredator]

I've gotten over it. Cant wait for the flick.

 

[crystalbaud]

Interesting. I think this will be a good decision for them in the end. The get a broader audience and fewer excuses to slack on the storytelling.

 

[Kratos]

Bale used them up in the making of segment on the DVD

Has anyone heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6D68Hx-7w&feature=channel_page
Its hillarious

 

[nicky]

Anyone who really thought that this would EVER be R must have been delusional...especially given the past resurrection of other violent action franchises and the constant desire for studios to "reach out to the kids that missed the previous instalments the first time".

i bet if terminator 2 came out today, it would be rated PG-13 now.

Well Cameron was going for a peace msg in that film with the whole "I swear I will not kill anyone" thing. But then again, Cameron is/was a powerful man in Hollywood, if he wanted it R the studio would have allowed him it.

TS has been the most talked about, most prolific and highly anticiapted movie this year/summer...of course it was always gonna be PG-13, I knew it as soon as it was greenlit. Anyone who thought it would be R is living in the past and clinging to wishful thinking - they just dont make movies anymore the way we want them to or the way they used to. The 80s are OVER.

 

[drunk_leprechaun]

does this mean no moon bloodgood ****ies?

 

[wofford29]

If "Taken" can get away with it's PG-13 rating I'm not worried about this. PG-13 is the new R.

 

[CelticPredator]

Taken was edited to a PG-13.

And no, PG-13 is not the new R. Not even a little bit.

 

[nicky]

PG-13 is the new rock n' roll.

 

[Ra88]

Shame that the director couldn't convince the studio, but oh well, the movie still looks extremely promising and the rating doesn't bother me anymore like it used too.

 

[nicky]

Shame that the director couldn't convince the studio.

Well he already convinced them that he, McG of all people, would be able to direct the film...I dont think he'd be able to strike lightening twice.

 

[a-dev]

Has anyone heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6D68Hx-7w&feature=channel_page
Its hillarious

It is hilarious even after the many many weeks since we all first heard it and had a huge thread about it

As to the rating - does this mean they've edited out the obligatory scene where Michael Ironside gets his arm ripped off?

 

[wofford29]

Taken was edited to a PG-13.

And no, PG-13 is not the new R. Not even a little bit.

That doesn't make any difference. What was shown in theaters was only two short scenes away from the supposed R version. Scenes that were actually no worse than anything else they showed in the theaterical release. It was more violent than most R rated films I've seen lately and was just as violent as previous Terminator films in what it showed, so yes, pg-13 is the new R (the R of yesteryear) in this case. The boundaries are stretching further and further each year.

 

[BadMoon]

I personally think all upcoming movies should be rated PG and animated in 3D. That way we can all take our children.

 

[CelticPredator]

Every R-Rated film from last year was violent as hell. PG-13 is still watered down.

Doesnt make anything automaticly bad....but in no way is PG-13 is the new R....

Which is funny because in the 80's you could get away with more violence, and ****S. Yes. ****S. In a PG-13.

Now? You cant. They cut out the Moon's ****s in Salvation to get a PG-13....thats just sad.

 

[wofford29]

Sorry Celtic but the rating system has been ramping up from years past not down. You can get away with far more in a PG-13 movie now than ever. 10 years ago Watchmen would have been rated NC-17 instead of an R. You can drop the F bomb consistently in a PG-13 film now as long as it doesn't reference sex, only "4" of those. You can show as much violence as you want without exploiting the bloodshed. You can show ****s in PG-13 now. I'm sure everyone would agree with the massive inconsistencies in the ratings system but PG-13 today is no different than R rated films 10 years or less ago. My example of Taken shows a lot more than Terminator 1 and 2 does in terms of violence so a PG-13 rating today works for me.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

Yep, wofford is exactly right. It's been the natural progression of movie ratings for decades. What's being shown with a pg-13 rating today wouldv'e easily been given an R rating 10 or 15 years ago.

And, no, in the 80's you couldn't get away with then what you get away with now in a PG-13 movie.

 

[CelticPredator]

Then how come Jaws is more violent then any PG-13 film today? How come Raiders has more brutal killings then any of the new Bond flicks?

 

[CelticPredator]

You can drop the F bomb consistently in a PG-13 film now as long as it doesn't reference sex, only "4" of those.

Only ONE F Bomb is allowed in a PG-13 movie.

Just one.

Watch This Film Is Not Yet Rated.