The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[pturtle]

This was a good movie. Batman and robin doesn't compare to this at all. Don't get that at all. My audiences loved this movie and were moved by it. It's an 8/10 from me. No it's not perfect

Yea, I can’t understand why this is taking a hit with the critics. Webb finally has my confidence, can’t wait to see what he does with ASM3.

 

[a-dev]

Watched ASM for only the second time tonight and now I feel like I need to give 2 another shot.

After tonight my rankings would change a bit from what I put in the 'Rate the last movie you watched' thread.

Before tonight I had it:

SM2
SM1
SM3
ASM
ASM 2

Now I'd put it:

SM2
SM1
ASM
SM3
and not quite sure where ASM2 would go, as I said I need to see it again after having rewatched ASM1.

 

[supertroooper]

First post! I just got back from this and I have to say I didn't like it much. The way Peter and Harry were written are so not what their characters are. Electro was okay and so was Gwen. Aunt May I really liked. The whole goblin angle seemed very rushed and literally only put in just so they could kill Gwen. I mainly thought everything Peter and Harry were doing and saying were so out of character. Why is Peter just as confident outside of the suit as he is in the suit? That makes no sense when it comes to that character. It's just not the Peter I've ever read in any of the universes or even the tv show. It was jarring. The actual spider-man scenes were well done, that's the Spidey I've always wanted to see. Other than that, 4.5/10 for me.

 

[The Amazing Spider-Man]

First post! I just got back from this and I have to say I didn't like it much. The way Peter and Harry were written are so not what their characters are. Electro was okay and so was Gwen. Aunt May I really liked. The whole goblin angle seemed very rushed and literally only put in just so they could kill Gwen. I mainly thought everything Peter and Harry were doing and saying were so out of character. Why is Peter just as confident outside of the suit as he is in the suit? That makes no sense when it comes to that character. It's just not the Peter I've ever read in any of the universes or even the tv show. It was jarring. The actual spider-man scenes were well done, that's the Spidey I've always wanted to see. Other than that, 4.5/10 for me.

Welcome and DAMN! 4.5?

 

[supertroooper]

Welcome and DAMN! 4.5?

Unfortunately yes it had glimpses of brilliance but I thought they never capitalized on it. I'm still not over how they wrote Peter and Harry in this film. That was something I really hoped they would fix from the first film.

 

[The Iron Koob]

They're just so focused on franchise building. Every scene is just to get from point A to B and it's not well thought out. I may be wrong but my understanding of cheesy is when the subject matter is desperately trying to make you "feel" what the author or writer is trying to convey but the tension isn't actually there. They're forcing it down your throat. ASM was a lot like this.

 

[guy66657]

They're just so focused on franchise building. Every scene is just to get from point A to B and it's not well thought out. I may be wrong but my understanding of cheesy is when the subject matter is desperately trying to make you "feel" what the author or writer is trying to convey but the tension isn't actually there. They're forcing it down your throat. ASM was a lot like this.

That's what happens when you rush making films to keep the film license.

 

[a-dev]

Unfortunately yes it had glimpses of brilliance but I thought they never capitalized on it. I'm still not over how they wrote Peter and Harry in this film. That was something I really hoped they would fix from the first film.

If memory serves didn't they say Harry and Peter hadn't seen each other in 10 years or something? So they were something like 9 years old the last time they saw eachother? And yet the film asks you to believe they had such a meaningful friendship as to be arsed with eachother 10 years later. That seemed like another stretch to me.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yup, Harry and Peter thing was completely underdeveloped, they just introduced their friendship and expected me to care, I didn't, however, with Gwen, that was totally different, that had heart and chemistry, I liked their scenes a lot.

Comes to mind the scene with Peggy in Cap2, if I didn't see CapTFA, that scene with Peggy would have still made me choke on my own tears like it did

 

[karamazov80]

I saw this tonight, and am struggling a bit with my own thoughts on it. Pseudo-spoilers ahead, so avoid if you don't want anything to be spoiled:

Some parts were phenomenal, some were kind of mediocre. I think the earlier point about pacing is onto something, because the uneven pacing, and fact that the movie jumps all over the place a bit (romance, Parker's parents subplot, villain #1 and associated issues, villain #2 and associated issues, Parker's relationship with Aunt May, Parker dealing with the ghost of Stacey, etc.) turned me off a bit. It just never fully flowed together to me in a way that felt right. I though Electro was a'aight, but nothing special. The nerdy Foxx and over the top Giamatti were not something I would have done, but they weren't quite as horrible as they could have been, either--not Schumacher-like, but definitely unrealistic. Gobby, Jr. was pretty good. I think he could be worth watching in future installments. Rhino thing was kind of odd, being stuck at the end with no resolution. I'm a bit bummed that Gwen is out now, because those guys had great chemistry, but. . .had to happen.

The audience also erupted into applause at the end, which I've never seen at a movie before that I remember. So I guess the director did something right there, though I wasn't feeling that same emotion.

The one thing though, that made this movie totally memorable and awesome in its way, was Spidey himself. Not Parker, but Spidey. Like supertrooper says, this IS Spider-Man to me. I thought the opening scene was magnificent, and possibly the best scene in any Spider-Man movie yet. And the action scenes were really good overall, even if they were pretty CG heavy at times. I would give it a 7/10 at this second, just because the Spider-Man parts were ****ing amazing, and some of the best stuff I've seen in any comic film yet. But a lot of the rest was a bit of a disappointment.

 

[supertroooper]

I meant more of how they turned Peter into some punk who even cracks jokes when he's not in costume. That's not how Peter should act. Or how he talks to aunt May in certain scenes. He was just so unlike able in the first film too and it seems they brought it to the second film as well. After thinking about Harry some more, I don't mind how they portrayed him but the Goblin thing still should have been saved. The villain....can't we just have villains who are just...evil? At least Rhino was somewhat written that way. You can still have a well written villain who has no sympathy.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, Red Skull was pure evil Hopefully Lex Luthor will be, but knowing how they are trying to make things all "gritty and realistic," he'll probably be what he is because he was abused as a child, and now genuinely wants to help people by doing horrible things to Superman or whatever.

I agree with some others about how Parker is portrayed, as well. But that seems to be the version of Peter Parker for this franchise. I guess we got the other version with the Raimi films though, and maybe this is the Ultimates version? I haven't read much Ultimates Spidey, but I recall folks saying that as a justification for how he behaved in the first film.

 

[crows]

Yup, Harry and Peter thing was completely underdeveloped, they just introduced their friendship and expected me to care, I didn't, however, with Gwen, that was totally different, that had heart and chemistry, I liked their scenes a lot.

Comes to mind the scene with Peggy in Cap2, if I didn't see CapTFA, that scene with Peggy would have still made me choke on my own tears like it did

the peter/harry relationship in the raimi films was believable and much stronger. way better than this. they didn't feel like friends in this one

 

[RJMacReady16]

I'm probably the only guy who grew up reading and loved the Spiderman stories where he was married to MJ and would call from a phone booth so she could tell him "Letterman was lousy tonight anyway". Was hoping the Raimi series would lead there but we if keep getting Twilight reboots it won't ever reach that point. Sounds like the same crap with this one.

Spoiler

Offing Gwen a bit too soon, me thinks.

 

[guy66657]

Well, Red Skull was pure evil Hopefully Lex Luthor will be, but knowing how they are trying to make things all "gritty and realistic," he'll probably be what he is because he was abused as a child, and now genuinely wants to help people by doing horrible things to Superman or whatever.

I agree with some others about how Parker is portrayed, as well. But that seems to be the version of Peter Parker for this franchise. I guess we got the other version with the Raimi films though, and maybe this is the Ultimates version? I haven't read much Ultimates Spidey, but I recall folks saying that as a justification for how he behaved in the first film.

Ultimate Peter wasn't like the Peter in this film. That's what bothers me the most when they say this is based off the Ultimate universe. That Peter still acts like he does in the normal universe. That was something Tobey Macguire absolutely NAILED in the original trilogy. His Spidey on the other hand, not so much.

Haha I wish they made Peter seem more like a genius though. I mean he should've gotten some awards or something at graduation. Even Gwen was a valedictorian.

 

[Biojex]

Back from second viewing...doesn't hold up for me. Still like a few things. I actually like Electro. He's paper thin but entertaining.

Chris Cooper was my favorite part...he NEEDS to come back.

 

[jnmx2000]

saw this tonight, thought as an action movie it was pretty poor. As a love story/drama it was pretty fantastic. The story writing had the Orci Krutsman stamp all over it. Things happen to get from point a to point b and once we are at point b the reason for getting to point b is forgotten and we have said action piece. The action was weak and without weight. The only action piece that actually had any tension in it was at the end with Gwen but that was this films or franchises biggest mistake. You can't just replace that kind of likability that Andrew and Emma have and now you've removed the best thing your franchise had going for it, I'm not looking forward to MJ and would have preferred Gwen be the main love in this franchise, MJ doesn't need to be in this version, but no choice now. The best part of the movie was the end with Rhino, he actually had a purpose to the story and that was to bring about the return of spider-man, easily the best scene in the film. Funny enough Rhino was my favorite part of this film. We'll see where things go from here.

 

[crows]

saw this tonight, thought as an action movie it was pretty poor. As a love story/drama it was pretty fantastic. The story writing had the Orci Krutsman stamp all over it. Things happen to get from point a to point b and once we are at point b the reason for getting to point b is forgotten and we have said action piece. The action was weak and without weight. The only action piece that actually had any tension in it was at the end with Gwen but that was this films or franchises biggest mistake. You can't just replace that kind of likability that Andrew and Emma have and now you've removed the best thing your franchise had going for it, I'm not looking forward to MJ and would have preferred Gwen be the main love in this franchise, MJ doesn't need to be in this version, but no choice now. The best part of the movie was the end with Rhino, he actually had a purpose to the story and that was to bring about the return of spider-man, easily the best scene in the film. Funny enough Rhino was my favorite part of this film. We'll see where things go from here.

you didn't care that it was so short?

 

[ironwez20]

It was a good movie and thats it, it was a good movie. Nothing really amazing about it. I just dont like the whole parents thing at all, I thought I could try to like it but I just dont. The action scenes are great and the way spidey moves is the best we've ever scene in a spidey movie. They have the spiderman character down to a T in terms of how he should act and I like Garfield way more than maguire as I feel that garfield doesnt complain as much and enjoys being spiderman.

Yes the chemistry between Gwen and peter is the highlight of this film actually and thats what saddens me. The highlight of the film should be peter and the villians and not the love story. Electro was a very weak villain but man was he cool to look at even if the last fight scenes looked very video game.

Oh boy. Harry osborn. Dane is a great actor and if they were to make his skin green and put a purple hat on him he'd make a convincing goblin. He got the laugh and the voice right he just looked to much like a crack head.

The ending of this movie is the most inspirational ending in any superhero film. You can say this movie sucks but the ending is definatly telling you "With great power comes great responsibility" without even saying it. Its a fun movie and kids and the GA will love it but I just wanted a little bit more. Im just sick and tired of Spiderman getting the third wheel to the likes of thor and hawkeye.

Maybe if they didnt rush so much and try and build a universe for a solo hero franchise it would of been better. All this talk about sinister six and venom is like telling the people "hey i know spidey isnt in the avengers but we are basically we are gonna do the same thing marvel is doing".

Like I said its not a bad movie a all it just could of been so much better. if they would of focused on the villains and not the whole parent mystery thing it would of made for a better film.

Still a tearjerker and still an great comic book film thats entertaining and a good start to the summer but it aint the definitive spiderman movie. I'd rank this under sm2 but only because of the powerful ending scene and the gwen relationship.

 

[jye4ever]

I've had childhood - teenager close friends reappear after an 8-15 year separation and still have a strong bond be present, so their relationship in the movie was something I didn't have a problem with.

Sure if Harry was in 1 it would've been better.

The Spiderman parts were so strong in this movie I refuse to give it a bad or even mediocre review.