The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread- Open SPOILERS -enter at own risk!

[Fisherprice]

I really want to know what could possibly be so important that War Machine was unavailable.

His armor was beat to hell and Stark has yet to repair or redesign it. Considering it was a Mark II with bolt on Hammer tech.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

great scene

 

[-jay-]

great scene

I like how he bashes him, stops and takes a look and then does it some more, like nah not bashed enough yet.

 

[DinoLast]

One thing I noticed is they did away with Banner's eye's turning green before he turns into the Hulk.

 

[TOE]

just saw it and very dissapointed.

 

[Veil1]

just saw it and very dissapointed.

Wha?

 

[DarthNeil]

just saw it and very dissapointed.

Not enough s's and too many p's?

 

[EndoSickness]

just saw it and very dissapointed.

What the...?!??!

 

[spiderbo]

He didn't pick it up initially because he was contemplating how st things were, and how he couldn't save Coulson...no doubt thinking it was his fault (hence him clenching his fist).

That's how I understood it anyway.

That is the way I took it as well.

 

[DFanatic]

That is the way I took it as well.

Same here. Now, someone mentioned War Machine. I really wish they had brought the guy in for the very end of the movie. I'm not even asking for much, something like 3 minutes. I wish they had him say "Hey Tony, looked like you need it help" and just show him mowing down some aliens with a shoulder mounted machine gun. There is always the Avengers 2

Oh and

Spoiler

I keep reading these rumors about Coulson being Vision. Can someone provide a source?

 

[Irvy]

He didn't pick it up initially because he was contemplating how sh.it things were, and how he couldn't save Coulson...no doubt thinking it was his fault (hence him clenching his fist).

That's how I understood it anyway.

Love the part after this when he reaches for the sky and his armor starts appearing

 

[Irvy]

Here's an interesting take on Stark and Banner.

https://ihatewhatilove.tumblr.com/

"First of all, their parallels. Both geniuses, top of their field. Both suffered an accident that physically changed them, forever, and not in a wholesome Spider-Man kind of way. Both try to do what they can to help others despite their own issues; Banner heals people, Tony works on developing clean energy. And both struggle, in their own way, with duality; Tony and Iron Man, Bruce and the Hulk. Two identities, one body. Only difference is Iron Man’s bad side is Tony.

I mentioned somewhere that Tony sees a bit of himself in Banner because they both have a monster inside them that they can’t control, a creature that springs fully formed from the id, the base impulses and the nasty stuff at the back of the mind. Bruce’s is a giant green rage monster. Tony’s trashed a party in Iron Man 2. Banner has a control over his that Tony hasn’t quite achieved yet; don’t think I didn’t notice Tony pouring himself a whiskey when confronting Loki. Tony is envious, fascinated, and most of all, impressed by Bruce’s control.

So he doesn’t walk on eggshells around Bruce like the others, because that’s not what Bruce needs. Tony sees Bruce’s restraint, sees the quiet, brilliant man making self-deprecating jokes in the corner of the room, sees the way people look at him like he’s going to snap any second, and thinks “nope”. Tony does what no-one else aboard that Helicarrier does. He trusts him. He makes jokes and jabs him and teases him and above all, treats him exactly how he would treat anyone else— he has a great regard for Bruce’s brilliance, and tells him so, but he doesn’t try to ignore the Hulk in the room. When he says “wow, you’ve really got a handle on this, haven’t you?” he’s not saying “gosh, it’s incredible you haven’t snapped yet and killed everyone on board” he’s saying “I know you have a handle on this, you wouldn’t be here if you didn’t, so I’m gonna poke you with this sharp object to prove it”. And you can see Bruce relax, and smile, and trust him back.

But then Tony goes even further, and invites Bruce to come to his R&D department. I’m pretty sure the two of them drive off together in Tony’s car at the end of the movie to do just that. And, okay, sure, Bruce is smart, but Tony’s tech is his baby. How many people get invitations to come and see his work? He invites Bruce because he recognises his brilliance, yes, but there’s another reason. He’s inviting Bruce to come down and work with him after this is over. He’s giving Bruce something to do next, a purpose, an alternative to disappearing into the ether to be alone with his monster. Tony knows from experience that being alone with your issues doesn’t end well, so for what’s only the third time in his life he extends the hand of friendship to a guy he’s known barely an hour.

And then, he tells Bruce to let the beast loose. Not just because they need him to fight, but because it will help him. If Bruce can take this thing that he sees as a curse and turn it into a gift, well, that’s going to lift him out of a very dark place. I’m not saying Tony knew about Bruce’s attempted suicide, but I think he had a suspicion that Bruce had been, in his words, “low”. So he encourages Bruce to take all that crap and pain and the Other Guy and use him to help people; after all, that’s what he did.

And it pays off. Nobody— nobody— thinks Bruce is going to turn up for that final battle. You can see the look on Natasha and Steve’s faces when Tony asks if Bruce turned up yet. They’ve counted Bruce out. Guy’s a mess, right? He’s too volatile. Doesn’t play well with others. He could never work as part of a team. No-one thinks he’ll come through when it matters. Except Tony. He has faith in him, and that faith is rewarded. It’s no wonder the Hulk is the one to catch Tony. Tony’s the one who helped let him out. He’s just returning the favor."

Makes a lot of sense to me, they really developedTony's character arc in this film, he starts to show true compassion for others and is even willing to sacrifice himself at the very end. He's found a fellow lost soul in Banner and is now part of something bigger which will set up IM3 nicely.

"You don't have to do this alone"- Rhodey

 

[EndoSickness]

That is the way I took it as well.

I think it was more like that Mjolnir is a part of Thor and since he explained that the Asgardians brought down destruction to earth that thinks that he is now responsible for all and therefor unworthy...in a way...of Mjolnir again.
When he came to terms with that, he was able again to lift Mjolnir.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[screamingmetal]

C'mon man, I'm trying to lose weight.

not sure if yer being sarcastic or not, all the more power to ya, I've been there myself.

But these people were obviously way too big for their seats and should've had the courtesy to sit somewhere else like an end seat and not put their burden on others around them, or shown up early and take two seats each.
Also some deodorant would've gone a long way, they smelled like a small bathroom after somebody had a battle with some Mexican food. I assume it was sweat and poor hygiene, but it was only 10 in the morning.

I really needed to vent, what was I going to do, move to the neck strainer seats?

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

not sure if yer being sarcastic or not, all the more power to ya, I've been there myself.

But these people were obviously way too big for their seats and should've had the courtesy to sit somewhere else like an end seat and not put their burden on others around them, or shown up early and take two seats each.
Also some deodorant would've gone a long way, they smelled like a small bathroom after somebody had a battle with some Mexican food. I assume it was sweat and poor hygiene, but it was only 10 in the morning.

I really needed to vent, what was I going to do, move to the neck strainer seats?

Yes, it was sarcasm.

Well, I'm going to see this for the first time today.

 

[screamingmetal]

That;s the worst thing I've seen today.

I turned it off after the arrow to the knee line.

Anyhoo....

This movie is pretty much Transformers 3. Same set up, same sorta plot, sameish, ending.


However, it's got a story, ACTUAL CHARACTER development, and just about some of the best writing in the genre.

It's TF3 done right. Bay should hire Joss.

That was most impressive, they managed to get character development and give equal time in an ensemble movie that didn't feel forced.

 

[bumblebee]

By far the best scene IMO. Damn I love this movie

 

[screamingmetal]

Yes, it was sarcasm.

Well, I'm going to see this for the first time today.

a weekday is probably the best time to see this, less crowds.
Also remember to stay after the credits, there's two bonus scenes, one after the the costume montage and one at the very end.

I knew there was a second one but had to get out of there, I couldn't take the stench any longer.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

a weekday is probably the best time to see this, less crowds.

And no annoying/crying/out of control children either.

 

[BadMoon]

a weekday is probably the best time to see this, less crowds.
Also remember to stay after the credits, there's two bonus scenes, one after the the costume montage and one at the very end.

I knew there was a second one but had to get out of there, I couldn't take the stench any longer.

What is the second one? Damnit I didn't know there were two!