The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread- Open SPOILERS -enter at own risk!

[meth head]

Off to see this tonight. Looking forward to it now

 

[Darth Cruel]

Salary won't be an issue. RDJ apparently after Iron Man had his agents broker a deal that gave him 5-7% of box office receipt of any film where he portrayed Tony Stark or Iron Man. Given that The Avengers just made over a billion dollars and that it's written into his contract for the rest of it and I'm sure whatever new one he'll have, cash isn't a brokering chip.

Feige is. Apparently he pissed off Norton (small loss now) but at the time he was very hardnosed with him, almost power struggling and some were even calling the way he acted with him petty. His comments about RDJ and casting and moving forward seem to indicate that while he is grateful for him isn't about to kiss his ass.

I don't think Downey will walk due to money but I can see him walking simply because Feige was being an ass and that will ultimately decide it.

As for Whedon, I know there are contractual options but nothing locked in.

Interesting P.O.V. I have also heard that Norton was playing the diva and overstepping his bounds in demands for Avengers and that is why they let him walk.

I wonder which P.O.V. is more accurate.

 

[Kamandi]

IMHO Norton has taken the high ground. I haven't seen or read of him saying anything negative towards Marvel.

Marvel in the other hand...

 

[jye4ever]

I'm just happy Louis Letterier wasn't chosen to direct Avengers, he wanted too.

 

[karamazov80]

IMHO Norton has taken the high ground. I haven't seen or read of him saying anything negative towards Marvel.

Marvel in the other hand...

Yeah, I recall the same, which kinda speaks more loudly than whatever accusations have been tossed out there IMO.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I'd say Norton here wasn't playing the diva. He's almost been an actor who just seems to stay quite and focus on his career. In fact, I think TIH is probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest blockbuster film he's been in. He rides really close to the edge of indy filmmaking.

 

[The Mike]

Interesting P.O.V. I have also heard that Norton was playing the diva and overstepping his bounds in demands for Avengers and that is why they let him walk. I wonder which P.O.V. is more accurate.

The "diva" comment came from the fact that Norton demanded to be in the production room when they were editing and pulling things together and even demanded things be changed as he was watching it. He rewrote a huge chunk of the script (although received no writing credit) and he wanted more control over possible sequels as well as to write and produce the things as he saw his vision. He wanted the next installment of The Hulk films to be controlled almost 100% by him despite the director. Had The Incredible Hulk been an amazing hit, I'm sure it would have gone his way.

He didn't have any say on The Avengers or what it would become as it was still an idea being tossed around at the time, he even said if they asked him back for The Avengers he'd do it but Marvel decided to recast.

Have no fear that Norton's attitudes on films are well documented but with everything that went back with The Incredible Hulk it was all Kevin Feige. He didn't like being told anything and wanted Norton to know "his place" as the talent and did that over and over.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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[Kamandi]

He was an uncredited writer on the film. I reserve judgement since I don't know how often writers are in the editing room.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

The "diva" comment came from the fact that Norton demanded to be in the production room when they were editing and pulling things together and even demanded things be changed as he was watching it. He rewrote a huge chunk of the script (although received no writing credit) and he wanted more control over possible sequels as well as to write and produce the things as he saw his vision. He wanted the next installment of The Hulk films to be controlled almost 100% by him despite the director. Had The Incredible Hulk been an amazing hit, I'm sure it would have gone his way.

He didn't have any say on The Avengers or what it would become as it was still an idea being tossed around at the time, he even said if they asked him back for The Avengers he'd do it but Marvel decided to recast.

Have no fear that Norton's attitudes on films are well documented but with everything that went back with The Incredible Hulk it was all Kevin Feige. He didn't like being told anything and wanted Norton to know "his place" as the talent and did that over and over.

That's the same story I heard. Personally I don't see it as diva behaviour. I see it as an actor who really cares about the movie he's in and wants it to be as good as possible. If Norton's interference is the reason why TIH came out so great, which I suspect it is, then more power to him. Now perhaps he should have done all this more "officially" and maybe became one of the movie's producers so he could legitimately have more of a say in the script and editing. Chances are he would have butt heads with Feig anyway, but at least his voice would have gotten more weight than just an actor throwing a tantrum.

 

[jye4ever]

Mike

why Stark's chest reactor thingy not lit on some scenes?

It's driving me crazy.

 

[karamazov80]

Because he's really zombie Stark. Duh.

 

[ZaCHw117]

And why does Jarvis's voice change back and forth in the new armor?

 

[jye4ever]

Because he's really zombie Stark. Duh.

Sorry,

only accept answers from Mike.

 

[spindrift]

And why does Jarvis's voice change back and forth in the new armor?

bad speakers..............

 

[The Mike]

Mike, why Stark's chest reactor thingy not lit on some scenes? It's driving me crazy.

Iron Man's chest reactor lights up upon suiting up because it signals that all processes are on and online. As he expends power and it channels more throughout the suit, the light dims as it pulls power and sends it elsewhere and the more he is using the dimmer the light would naturally get. Even standing still, powering the suit especially after a fight, the suit is idle, meaning the light would always be on but not strong enough to shine through the chestplating window. So while he is standing it'd naturally be dimmer until he did something and light up, then as he is using it, it should realistically flicker or dim completely because the power is being rerouted. Minimally it'd go almost dark if the suit's power was expended because it would need to remain active to keep Stark alive.

And why does Jarvis's voice change back and forth in the new armor?

As Iron Man is moving and fighting, especially taking any kind of damage, the transmissions via speaker would be effect and cause garbling, similar to the way that as you are on a cell phone and the wind or even movement will make the transmission sound temporarily different.

 

[greygoose]

And why does Jarvis's voice change back and forth in the new armor?

He was getting high.

 

[Kamandi]

Iron Man's chest reactor lights up upon suiting up because it signals that all processes are on and online....

I think he's referring to the scene where Stark, Rodgers and Fury are sitting around the table

Spoiler

after Coulson's death. Seriously, are we done with spoiler tags yet?

Tony's wearing a Black Sabbath shirt and his arc reactor is glowing blue underneath. But in a few shots the production crew forgot to turn the light on so it's not glowing. Oops.

 

[jye4ever]

Oh crap Mike, I should've been more specific.

I meant on his own chest, there were scenes starting after Coulson's death when Stark was sitting at the table with Cap where the light was completely off under his black sabbath t-shirt.

Also when he was speaking with Cap about Coulson being a dummy for confronting Loki alone.

I don't remember if it was on during his talk with Loki in his apartment, but when Loki went to tap him it was fully lit.

Sorry for your answer, it was not in vain.

 

[Kamandi]

It looked like a production goof. Maybe they'll fix it for the Bluray