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[JAWS]

Jaws, have read your posts, & you generally come off as an OK kinda guy. BUT, I suspect you've been swimming in shallow waters for way too long. Come to the deep end my friend, & you may sober-up, & realize da big picture.

Oh I think I get the big picture. But when it comes to characters I love I really don't care about edition size. I collect to have a little JAWS man cave where I can escape and relax.

I have a Bruce NTT that I bought for a large chunk of change and I could care less if it's value goes below what I bought it for. Plant me in the Ground with it.

 

[Mamba]

Then what are you complaing about?? You are going to pick up a character you love at half the original price. My point was if you really love this character you will probably get it regardless of edition size.


As I continue to read can understand where some of you are coming from. Those that want to just flip the items I could care less about your opinions but others I can understand. This is an expensive Hobby and it is nice to know that if the time came and you wanted to sell you could at least get your funds back.

Like I said I have done this a few times over the years so I can buy better versions of characters (my TOD Indy is much better then my ROTLA Indy) or because items that are more important to me are coming down the line (Batman is more important to me then Terminator) or if I have to sell because my projector craps the bed (Original PF Hulk).

So yes it's nice to have a closed edition.

I think when an Item is an open edition you have to ask yourself, How much do you love the character or item for sale, how great is the sculpt, and if need be are you willing to sell it for less it's value down the road. If you say no to any of these then you should stay clear of OE.

Personally I can yes to all three of these. I just think this piece is fantastic and is by far the best version of Hulk out there, even though it's based on a film and not the comics. Of course the film version is based on the comics so does it really matter

In fact if someone asked me if I could only pick one and never have the other and the choice was the Hulk PF or this maquette, I would pick this new Hulk. Even though I could sell the Hulk and get 1500.00 for it I would still pick this hulk because I have to have a Hulk for my collection and I want what I see as the best Hulk out there.

I am done with arguing about the OE and I hope that SS makes decisions in the future with the collectors in mind. That way great pieces like this won't have their threads clutterd up with 50 pages of complaints.

Fair enough Jaws, I see what you are saying, I too will get this because I like it, but would I prefer this to have a closed ES? You bet.

The thing is I also like DROM PF from LOTR, I ordered the EX but they changed the regular as open ES, I like Galactus and ordered it on day 1 but they changed it to open ES. And I like this Hulk and they made it to open ES

See the trend there?

Yeah if you are a casual buyer only buy a few sideshow statues, it may not be a big deal, but when you spend tenth of thousands for sideshow statues, you may have a bigger issue.

I am just overwhelmed within a couple weeks Sideshow announced 3 open ES products for non LSF: Galactus Maquette, DROM PF (regular) and Huk Maquette.

 

[jye318]

Most of the retailer will sold out soon, so if buy from ss is way expensive. Like I got one for $612 shipped to ca, and no tax.
But I am guess we can still see much cheaper price will show off on eBay like IM1/2.

 

[azurepred]

Why would anyone buy this with the intention of selling and losing $100 plus fees, if using eBay.
There will be some that need to due to personal circumstances but I can't see many being available.
The open ES has stopped the flippers buying.

nobody buys with the intention of losing money. That's the risk all of you take when you pay retail for open ES items. There are tons of reasons why people sell. They need the room, the money, don't care for the character anymore, etc, etc. Look at all the people that payed retail for the 1:2 IM. They payed even more for that, and those still pop up semi often for hundreds cheaper. Believe what you want, but I'm telling you, this is gonna be available much cheaper, simple economics.

 

[Chaosorb]

Hey I'm fairly new to this forum and I have been reading the last few pages of this thread. Is this "Shai" person some kind of troll or what? If he is actually being serious that's kind of concerning.

You have to take Shai with a grain of salt. He's really quite funny and not a bad guy.

Yeah you should be concerned. You've been a member of these boards for 10 mins.

Ummm it shouldn't say that. Ive been on here for a few weeks.

It doesn't he’s just messing with you cause you're a noob. to the fabulous Freaks pages.

After Optimus Prime Ex increase, the Rogue *** change, the Batman and Ivy Ex edition sizes being too big, the Droids Ex size being too small and this Hulk being open edition - I am pissed at sideshow right now.

 

[Kibishii]

Why would anyone buy this with the intention of selling and losing $100 plus fees, if using eBay.
There will be some that need to due to personal circumstances but I can't see many being available. The open ES has stopped the flippers buying.

Sigh...online retailers and B&M retailers order these to sell in their own store. Sideshow sells to retailers as well as regular collectors.

Here is an economics lesson for you:
~Retailer A preorders say 8, retailer B preorders 6, go down the alphabet of retailers. These are preordered to sell ONCE THE ITEM IS RELEASED.
~Item is released, some people will cancel because they do not have funds or whatever reason; this will increase the stock that retailers have available.
~Hundreds of regular customers preorder get the item; many will then have to sell it for whatever reason.
~The item still available for order through Sideshow at $650. Retailers/regular customers drop their price to unload it; this further floods the market pushing prices down.
~People who did not preorder come in and purchase the Hulk maquette at a discounted rate.

Now...if Sideshow keeps it at an OES and only preorders direct through them...that would be an astonishing money grab that throws the above formula out of whack.

 

[azurepred]

Most of the retailer will sold out soon, so if buy from ss is way expensive. Like I got one for $612 shipped to ca, and no tax.
But I am guess we can still see much cheaper price will show off on eBay like IM1/2.

which retailer did you use? So far, the best price I found is $585 shipped to Ca. Not sure, that's a pretty good discount. Might bite on that.

 

[Collectorcol]

Yes I understand. I've ordered mine from a retailer. The retailer I use only orders as many as he needs. He will never have to put them on sale. He understands economics!
Anyway I'm really not bothered anymore. I've got mine and I ain't ever going to sell.

 

[divo]

Sigh...online retailers and B&M retailers order these to sell in their own store. Sideshow sells to retailers as well as regular collectors.

Here is a economics lesson for you:
~Retailer A preorders say 8, retailer B preorders 6, go down the alphabet of retailers. These are preordered to sell ONCE THE ITEM IS RELEASED.
~Item is released, some people will cancel because they do not have funds or whatever reason; this will increase the stock that retailers have available.
~Hundreds of regular customers preorder get the item; many will then have to sell it for whatever reason.
~The item still available for order through Sideshow at $650. Retailers/regular customers drop their price to unload it; this further floods the market pushing prices down.
~People who did not preorder come in and purchase the Hulk maquette at a discounted rate.

Now...if Sideshow keeps it at an OES and only preorders direct through them...that would be an astonishing money grab that throws the above formula out of whack.

Simply stated. Simply true.

Now to convince the brainwashed.

 

[Chaosorb]

To those of you have ordered this, congrats. It's a AWESOME looking statue. It will look great displayed in your collections.

I have struggled with this. The Hulk is one of my very favorite characters. I have seen many people state their displeasure with the open ES and still order the piece anyway. I understand. It's a great looking piece of a very popular character. This will cause many to bend and get this ONE piece.

Since I like the character so much, I almost broke and said F it a few times and ordered this piece. After thinking about it, I have decided against purchasing this piece. SSC will not get a penny from me on ANY open ES statue or other collectible. I refuse to purchase ANYTHING from SSC that doesn't have a closed ES. For my own reasons, I feel very strongly about this topic and will not support any open ES from any company I collect from. The reason is simple. I feel that by buying this piece from SSC, I'm supporting SSC's decision to implement more open ES on future releases. I don't want to take a stand later. I feel I must do it now.

If SSC increasingly starts to use open ES on characters I like, I will stop collecting from SSC. I will sell off some of my pieces and keep a select few that are very dear to me. The ones that I just can't part with. That will be the end game for me.

What I find most hilarious while I read this thread is the so called HUGE Hulk fans that ridiculed anyone who didn't buy this maquette because of the open ES topic. These are the same peeps who laugh at collectors because they have to pay thousands of dollars for the Hulk PF. Why? Because it's rare and limited to 500 pieces. They take joy in how much it's worth and how hard it is to aquire. I wish SSC would reopen the ES on the original PF and make it a limited edition release. These same guys would cry like little girls if that were to happen.

I have done the same and have held out even though I really want this. I can't support OE collectibles. If there were more of us then SSC would stop making them while they were ahead.

 

[nemenforcer]

nobody buys with the intention of losing money. That's the risk all of you take when you pay retail for open ES items. There are tons of reasons why people sell. They need the room, the money, don't care for the character anymore, etc, etc. Look at all the people that payed retail for the 1:2 IM. They payed even more for that, and those still pop up semi often for hundreds cheaper. Believe what you want, but I'm telling you, this is gonna be available much cheaper, simple economics.

I agree, its all economics and I will not pay retail on this.

 

[jye318]

which retailer did you use? So far, the best price I found is $585 shipped to Ca. Not sure, that's a pretty good discount. Might bite on that.

Auction figure express . $585+shipping$25, not bad at all.

 

[Awesome]

I agree, its all economics and I will not pay retail on this.

Wait until you find this on ebay in a year for $200-250, just like the LSF's, you can probably find Wolf for $800 a year after it comes out.

 

[diecast]

Sigh...online retailers and B&M retailers order these to sell in their own store. Sideshow sells to retailers as well as regular collectors.

Here is a economics lesson for you:
~Retailer A preorders say 8, retailer B preorders 6, go down the alphabet of retailers. These are preordered to sell ONCE THE ITEM IS RELEASED.
~Item is released, some people will cancel because they do not have funds or whatever reason; this will increase the stock that retailers have available.
~Hundreds of regular customers preorder get the item; many will then have to sell it for whatever reason.
~The item still available for order through Sideshow at $650. Retailers/regular customers drop their price to unload it; this further floods the market pushing prices down.
~People who did not preorder come in and purchase the Hulk maquette at a discounted rate.

Now...if Sideshow keeps it at an OES and only preorders direct through them...that would be an astonishing money grab that throws the above formula out of whack.

yes, maybe initially. but like anything else, at some point production will stop. it wont be available in stores. and thats when the discounts end. then only way this then becomes available, is on the secondary market when someone wants to clear room, needs money, doesnt like it anymore, whatever. the immediacy of purchase disappears. given that the number of people who own the statue reflect the number that may be available in the secondary market, but its the availability that will determine the price. even if sideshow sells 50,000 of them, and 49,999 are unavailable because people are getting rid of it, you in essence have your small edition size and inflated secondary market price.

its not always about getting frozen out at the top. its like legos. once theyre gone, theyre gone. and ive yet to see an edition size to a lego set.

 

[sarakawa]

which retailer did you use? So far, the best price I found is $585 shipped to Ca. Not sure, that's a pretty good discount. Might bite on that.

where did u find that?

 

[azurepred]

it's just a question of how much cheaper. We can't put an exact figure on the market cause this is such a popular character, as opposed to maybe a open ES T-600 bust, that I got for $250 under retail. I'm sure being brand new will factor in as well. The retailers will sell out and this will only be available from SS once that happens because retailers don't get many of these open ES items cause they know they are hard to sell.

 

[jye318]

But this limited edition means they will keep selling until nobone buys it. So price will going down, I just can't wait till all the retailer sold out this and have to get it from ss.

 

[Awesome]

But this limited edition means they will keep selling until nobone buys it. So price will going down, I just can't wait till all the retailer sold out this and have to get it from ss.

Wait for ebay or here on the site.

 

[azurepred]

Auction figure express . $585+shipping$25, not bad at all.

yea, I think I might have to bite. I don't want to wait a year after this has shipped to get one for possibly a better price. That's basically $100 cheaper already then anyone else.

Wait until you find this on ebay in a year for $200-250, just like the LSF's, you can probably find Wolf for $800 a year after it comes out.

Now your smokin some strong stuff. I don't believe Hulk will be available that cheap simply cause he will be high in demand. Case in point, the SWS SS Endoskulls. That's been open ES for years upon years, but when they sell on ebay, they still go for $400-450. It's still very much in demand, even though there are thousands out there.

 

[Irvy]

Oh I think I get the big picture. But when it comes to characters I love I really don't care about edition size. I collect to have a little JAWS man cave where I can escape and relax.

I have a Bruce NTT that I bought for a large chunk of change and I could care less if it's value goes below what I bought it for. Plant me in the Ground with it.

What I wouldn't give for one of those: Stunning piece.