The "I've Seen Indy IV" Thread (No Spoilers Please)

[DarkArtist81]

Here still, a day later and I still stand by my original assertion. It was a fun movie and I really did enjoy it. I don't see it as blind fanboy rationalization, I learned my lesson on TPM. I knew what I was in for when I stepped into the theater, and my worries slowly melted away. It had it's weak points, but I still loved the movie.

It had me excited, laughing and interested throughout. Even the ending, it wasn't too much for me. I believe in Aliens and I love the Crystal Skull legend, it's something I have theories on as well. I honestly think that Irish is right, people will soften over time on this one. Once the anticipation wears off and they watch it objectively...

 

[Dusty]

That was a great juke-out by Spielberg & Co. How many people were ready to declare a Day of Rage when Shia first picked up the fedora?

See, now THAT'S letting personal Indy nostalgia get in the way of viewing the film as a whole... I was actually about to cheer (the only time in the film), when Shia was going to put it on. From an acting/interesting character stand-point, Shia far out-shined Harrison in this one - to me at least.

 

[Jair]

Like I said many pages ago, your mileage may vary.

Y'know, another element to this -- why people who don't like it are reacting like somebody shot their dog -- is that it isn't just Spielberg, Ford, Lucas, and Allen who've aged. We're not the same moviegoers we were when Raiders came out, and in the passing years we've come to feel an ownership of these characters (which is a good thing for Sideshow). It's hard to view something new with fresh eyes if we're hoping it will rekindle something old, and we're not even the same as we were back when that flame first sparked.

Maybe I liked KOCS because I was never out-of-this-world in love with the old films, I just liked them. They were never something I put on a pedestal. I don't even really remember the second one except that it was noisy. I think I only saw it once, in the theater. A lot of the comments I've read make me want to watch the DVD now.

Wife and I just got back from an early matinee and I think Mister Gruff up top really explains the movie for me, I enjoyed it, it was a good summer popcorn flick...no it wasn't Raiders but I sat through it laughed at some of the jokes, cringed at a few more but really when can you really relive the first feelings you had watching Raiders. Script was a bit uneven, I had no problems with the overall theme of the movie, typical saturday morning serial stuff with bit of the modern thrown in. It had a few more "sure.....like they would have survived moments" then the other films but when has Indy ever been set in reality.

Loved seeing Marion again, Shia didn't bother me much and I thought Ray Winstone's character was a throw away and Cate was pretty good, even though her accent dropped through a few times.

Wife really enjoyed it but she has always been the bigger Indy fan then I, think the only part of the movie she didn't like was the overuse of the critters...

Compared to some other summer movies of the past few years though for shear enjoyability it was heads and shoulders above stuff like Transformers!


Evan

 

[IrishJedi]

I was actually about to cheer (the only time in the film), when Shia was going to put it on. From an acting/interesting character stand-point, Shia far out-shined Harrison in this one - to me at least.

I would not disagree with that. I said it earlier... he actually played the better "Indy" of the two.

But I think much of the blame there lies with the script.

 

[Seretur]

I've worked until an hour ago, and then went to check the forums to see what the reaction to KOTCS is.

Boxofficemojo: They love it.

Spielbergfilms: They love it.

Homebase S&F: Unanimously love it.

SSF: Hate it.

What's wrong with you people?

Just remember your reaction to King Kong a couple of years ago. Seriously.

 

[Nolocke]

Oh lord. What, pray tell, is the "real agenda" of the film?

I think we all know what the real agenda of this movie is :chew

Yogurt: Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made. Spaceballs-the T-shirt, Spaceballs-the Coloring Book, Spaceballs-the Lunch box, Spaceballs-the Breakfast Cereal, Spaceballs-the Flame Thrower

 

[Lembas Eater]

I loved it. I'm not sure I was as excited about this movie as some were and I've been away from Indiana Jones for a long time and this brought it all back.

I was a also a big fan of Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and thought the film hit on several notes of that, the fact that Indy had lived through history, witnessing several happenings (major and minor) of the 50s in KOTCS.

All the fun and danger, adventure and wisecracks were there. I thought it didn't miss a mark. At one point in the movie, I honestly thought "Thank you, George and Steve"!

 

[stshammgod]

I think I need to see it again to really geta feel for whether or not I love it. It was a good movie, but it seemed all over the place in terms of what type of movie it was trying to be.

 

[teemu]

Teemu believes that Aliens are actually demons sent here by Satan. He also believes that Giants once ruled the Earth. He also believes that the government is poisoning us with flouride in our water supply.

Ah Badmoon you remembered....aliens are fallen angels...inter-dimensional beings...noticed OX in the film called them that??? Yes, I believe Giants once roamed the Earth, as the Bible says so...they were from fallen angels interbreeding with human women and they were called the Nephilim!

the 13 Aliens, in the film, respresented the bloodline...the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati and merged into a demi-god in Alien form (the elite believe they are gods or part of this Demonic Elite Race) anyways,I am leaving it at that lol

 

[Entropy]

SSF: Hate it.

What's wrong with you people?

Obviously there are many SSFreaks with good judgment and discriminating taste!

 

[icruise]

Ah Badmoon you remembered....aliens are fallen angels...inter-dimensional beings...noticed OX in the film called them that??? Yes, I believe Giants once roamed the Earth, as the Bible says so...they were from fallen angels interbreeding with human women and they were called the Nephilim!

the 13 Aliens, in the film, respresented the bloodline...the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati and merged into a demi-god in Alien form (the elite believe they are gods or part of this Demonic Elite Race) anyways,I am leaving it at that lol

That's a relief! I thought you were going to say something crazy!

 

[teemu]

Yeah, I can't wait to hear this. It might actually make people appreciate it more.

Religious view? There were no religious elements in this one. Or is that one of the things you don't like about it?

As for far-fetched... you have seen the original INDY movies, right?

yes,I saw all the Indy movies (raiders hands down the best) but I dont think they were as farfetched as shia labuf swinging on vines (with monkeys) like tarzan...or how many times can you go down a rocky huge water fall without getting killed?? Indy, marion and mutt should of been killed about 15 times or more....How could Indy survived an atomic Bomb sitting in a refigerator!! lol lol lol

 

[DarthNeil]

That's a relief! I thought you were going to say something crazy!

I just spat my beer all over my monitor... Thanks.

 

[BadMoon]

Ah Badmoon you remembered....aliens are fallen angels...inter-dimensional beings...noticed OX in the film called them that??? Yes, I believe Giants once roamed the Earth, as the Bible says so...they were from fallen angels interbreeding with human women and they were called the Nephilim!

the 13 Aliens, in the film, respresented the bloodline...the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati and merged into a demi-god in Alien form (the elite believe they are gods or part of this Demonic Elite Race) anyways,I am leaving it at that lol

How can I forget you my friend? Keep on truckin brother.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Compared to some other summer movies of the past few years though for shear enjoyability it was heads and shoulders above stuff like Transformers!

THANK YOU! Finally, someone agrees with me on Transformers... Shia was the only good thing about it, well maybe Megan Fox.. But it was a mess of a film.

KOTCS was much better than that, I have to say.

 

[Dusty]

Just remember your reaction to King Kong a couple of years ago. Seriously.

What was the reaction? I've forgotten

 

[Wor-Gar]

Technically, Indy swings on a vine in the beginning of RAIDERS.

 

[Dusty]

Technically, Indy swings on a vine in the beginning of RAIDERS.

Was it CGI? Was he surrounded by hundreds of CGI monkeys? Did he swing from vine to vine like Tarzan?

And he'd been in the field for years - vine swinging is part of his life. Mutt's a high-school dropout mechanic who's never set food in a jungle in his life - just sayin' is all (Apologists will say that it must run in his blood... )

The thing about past Indy's (and most really good adventure films) is that they make even the outlandish seem plausible. NOTHING in this film seemed plausible. Perhaps that can be blamed entirely on CGI and green screens, who knows. But it's also the fault of the shoddy script-writing. Meh, I'm done for now.

Newsletter's published, BTW (sorry for the delay, there were some scheduling/tech difficulties, leading me to while away the time on the board discussing KotCS )

Oh, and I UNAPOLOGETICALLY love Transformers... undebatable flaws and all. At least it had nearly flawless CGI and giant robot battles... and LOL-inducing slow-mo scenes of said battling robots

 

[DarkArtist81]

yes,I saw all the Indy movies (raiders hands down the best) but I dont think they were as farfetched as shia labuf swinging on vines (with monkeys) like tarzan...or how many times can you go down a rocky huge water fall without getting killed?? Indy, marion and mutt should of been killed about 15 times or more....How could Indy survived an atomic Bomb sitting in a refigerator!! lol lol lol

I'd say they were pretty far-fetched.... In Raiders, Indy was shot several times... he was drug behind a truck and UNDER it. He was beaten to a pulp, even hitched a ride on a U Boat for God knows how long with NO explanation.

In Doom, hearts were being ripped from people's chests while they remained alive. Mind control, jumping out of a plane with a blow up raft..

Crusade didn't have much craziness.

And spellcheck never hurt anybody bro...

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

But not carelessly on multiple vines, while simultaneously leading an army of CGI monkeys.