The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[Khev]

Battle Droids have been autonomous since AOTC. Since when does one button shut down not only them but every random protocol droid, kitchen droid, mouse droid, etc., as well. Why did the Republic even bother with clones if all they needed were a few of those buttons.

 

[Ramatuelle]

So presumably all you geezers saying that they’re done with show won’t be back here next week for a moan?

I will be watching this unFabulous disaster until the very moment Grogu turns into a mech. *unplug*

Imagine him Force-flipping around in that thing. Thats going to make poor Boba's rabbit droid look like something out of an Ingmar Bergman film.

I just thought of who Lizzo reminded me of.

 

[Sassafras]

I'm sure you have loads of crayons considering your "oh so intelligent" post could be summed up as "wah wah women in My StAr WaRs?!?!"

This season has been pretty awful, but people like you trying to use that as this weird way to sit there and cry your misogynistic sorrows is even more awful.

I'll waste a few minutes of my life while the coffee brews:

There's a huge difference - a comment I already posted - in any show, film, opera, play, etc. that apparently shifts focus from a main character to someone else; and at the same time a certain company seems to have gone into overdrive highlighting characters of a given gender to the point - IMO - viewers are wondering what happened.

If I go to see a Captain America movie, I expect to see Captain America. I also don't expect to see stupid scenes in the middle of battle like the forced EG girl power scene. If I watch the Ahsoka show, I expect to see, yah know, lots of Ahsoka. If I watch a film called the Black Stallion, normally I would expect to see lots of a horse.

And I fail to understand why those who instantly are ready to scream "u WomUn Hater!" don't ponder whether, overall, Disney's slate of unbalanced film-age is underperforming, poorly written, and same old same old is boring like, well, let's bring uber-powered Rey back. But male, female, or other - IMO it's all irrelevant beginning with poor scripts and editing, rushing through key points that should have had more weight, and shifting supposed main characters to the background 2 seasons in, and the whole IG thing is pretty dubious too. Along with Greef not having any guards.

 

[Khev]

Thank God I liquidated 20 years worth of Hasbro figures before these last two episodes and the activist Rey movie was announced.

 

[Sassafras]

...... Remember when Mando parked his ship on some ice and when he tried to lift off this walrus-looking thing broke thru & grabbed his landing gear? And Mando in the cockpit was all like "Oh, got-DAMMIT" like you and me would be if we found a parking ticket on our windshields? and he calmly got up and electrocuted that thing with his rifle like, no big deal this stuff happens. Then he sat back down and went about his business. Just another day in the galaxy.

I miss that Mando.

*Gloomily* Yeah. Well. I miss the Mando who knifed a Stormtrooper and then shot the interrogation droid, all those years later it was like Leia was avenged.

/rareinsults

Pollen. Lots of pollen. Also staring at my shelves full of ~49%/49% female/male/2% other - dunno is there something like hate buying? Like hate watching, only you spend thousands.
Anyway, I'll pick up Fennec and Kuiil and guess I should be thankful I'll save some money on S3 stuff - but who knows....there's the nano particle hope that somehow, like Palps returning, Favreau turned out some great writing for the last 2 episodes.

 

[chrisstbh]

No way really

 

[Khev]

"One thing that really intrigued Famuyiwa was having the opportunity to portray everyone's favorite gun-toting bounty hunters in an all new light. 'Sure Bo-Katan now wields the Darksaber, and all the priviledge and authority that comes with it, but how will she react when a fellow Mandalorian forgets to bring tongs to their outdoor barbecue? Or realizes that the Armorer has been using precious resources to make Beskar lawn darts? Exploring those situations and having fun with the idea that these supposedly legendary warriors can freeze up mid-battle until rescued by ordinary women and children allowed us to really expand on the groundwork laid in seasons 1 and 2.'"

 

[Otomofan]

Lizzo queen was on the Executor when she met Captain Moses

She evacuated by piloting a Tie-Fighter.

Dude. Don't use the word "evacuate" in a sentence with "Lizzo." It brings up powerful mental images that are difficult to get rid of.



Here. Enjoy some pics of Lizzo eating spaghetti.

 

[LiamNeesons112]

No way really

Tune in next week to see what will happen next on The Mandalorians!

 

[pixletwin]

Pretty sure THE Mandalorian will refer to Grogu. I’ve been assuming that for a while now.

 

[goatchumby]

No way really

I liked the idea of following individual Mandalorians around as a kinda loose anthology when the series started. But I’m afraid that the narrative (with Gideon and such) is a bit to linear now to go that route.

 

[Sassafras]

"One thing that really intrigued Famuyiwa was having the opportunity to portray everyone's favorite gun-toting bounty hunters in an all new light. 'Sure Bo-Katan now wields the Darksaber, and all the priviledge and authority that comes with it, but how will she react when a fellow Mandalorian forgets to bring tongs to their outdoor barbecue? Or realizes that the Armorer has been using precious resources to make Beskar lawn darts? Exploring those situations and having fun with the idea that these supposedly legendary warriors can freeze up mid-battle until rescued by ordinary women and children allowed us to really expand on the groundwork laid in seasons 1 and 2.'"

https://screenrant.com/the-mandalorian-season-3-final-episodes-story-tease/
"When we get to 7 & 8 a lot of interesting things have been planted, we'll see some resolution."

Directors from Abrams to Johnson to Waititi to Famuyiwa - maybe all of them (except Peter Jackson who said he didn't want to override Tolkien more or less) never, ever, seem to ask themselves - if there's an established fan community, does said fan community really want to see a supposed spiritual and cultural creed dismissed, or *&^% like the Fury eye thing, or lots and lots of Waititi in a superhero film, or some Alice in Wonderland stoner version of the Mandalorian.

They may call it subversive, forward thinking, original. It could also be called *&&^%$ on the fan base and *&^%$ writing. I can do without another version of Thor powering up a bunch of kids, if he's serious.

"I think now with Bo possessing the Darksaber, I know that there was a lot of expectations that might have shifted both in terms of what it meant for Din Djarin, but also for Bo and what does it mean?," he continued.

"Who is the Mandalorian at this point? And so I think it could be anyone. And I think that's what they're trying to define in many ways, is what does that mean to be Mandalorian."

WTF. Sure wish I'd known about the rug pull before I invested in this series. I was good with the lone everyman wanderer dealing with HIS identity/journey, not all these other party crashers.

 

[ZE_501]

Directors from Abrams to Johnson to Waititi to Famuyiwa - maybe all of them (except Peter Jackson who said he didn't want to override Tolkien more or less) never, ever, seem to ask themselves -

I've worked with a lot of directors by now. The best ones are technical visionaries who allow the people around them to grow and do their jobs, know when to step back, but have the perspicacity to pull hitherto unseen greatness from those they're working with. They see what others do not.

However. A lot of them are insecure egoists who may have a very good handle on certain aspects of the craft, but lack the empathy, humility and bravery to get out of the story's way because they always have something to prove. A lot of this type are successful because they're good at navigating the system.

I was a cocky little **** when I was in my late teens and very early twenties. Way more balls than brains. A very wise woman said a couple of things to me that stay with me to this day:

"It's good that you're cocky now. You're gonna need it because life is gonna kick the crap out of you."

... and:

"... right now you want everyone to see how well you dance. You'll be much better at whatever you do when you want everyone to look at your dancers instead of you."

She was right. I didn't learn her lessons for years. Some people never will, either because they're fine fellows or because they get rewarded and fail upwards for a host of reasons.

 

[Sassafras]

I've worked with a lot of directors by now. The best ones are technical visionaries who allow the people around them to grow and do their jobs, know when to step back, but have the perspicacity to pull hitherto unseen greatness from those they're working with. They see what others do not.

However. A lot of them are insecure egoists who may have a very good handle on certain aspects of the craft, but lack the empathy, humility and bravery to get out of the story's way because they always have something to prove. A lot of this type are successful because they're good at navigating the system.

I was a cocky little **** when I was in my late teens and very early twenties. Way more balls than brains. A very wise woman said a couple of things to me that stay with me to this day:

"It's good that you're cocky now. You're gonna need it because life is gonna kick the crap out of you."

... and:

"... right now you want everyone to see how well you dance. You'll be much better at whatever you do when you want everyone to look at your dancers instead of you."

She was right. I didn't learn her lessons for years. Some people never will, either because they're fine fellows or because they get rewarded and fail upwards for a host of reasons.

Well, that's awesome. I KNOW Abrams never learned that. Or Johnson. Or Waititi, now, it would seem.

At least the fans more or less point blank asked what's going on. Now whether I consider the Mandalorian directors responsible for the goings-on this season, or F&F, or maybe it's just one big happy family at this point - well, I'll quit whining, 'coz it's clear the grittier focused arc on a sort of gunslinger/Clint Eastwood type, with interesting hints and Easter Eggs from other films, has been jettisoned for crossover bloat - sort of like Clone Wars or Rebels where everyone that was ever in SW makes an appearance. One-on-one interactions like that with IG or Kuill or Mayfield or whoever else Din D'jarin may have met up with - gone, probably.

I just don't find another splash panel series that interesting. Probably watchable, but feels like a live action sequel to Rebels is shaping up. Even the iconic Season 1 Mando poster and the end music - are they gonna put Bo-Katan in there, or what?

So that's that then. I won't cancel D+ and all that (yet) but after 2 years was expecting - more Moff Gideon, NOT space pirates, and not a cartoon. A badass Boba/Fennec reunion. Maybe Grogu having to face off against a Dark side user. It's sort of like watching Finn's could-have-been-fascinating-arc get derailed all over again. I can't see rewatching much of S3 at this point, unlike S1/S2.

 

[ZE_501]

Well, that's awesome. I KNOW Abrams never learned that. Or Johnson. Or Waititi, now, it would seem.

I've seen a lot of Waititi interviews and candid stuff. The man is either way too in love with himself or depressed as hell. I'm not sure which because they often look the same.

- well, I'll quit whining, 'coz it's clear the grittier focused arc on a sort of gunslinger/Clint Eastwood type, with interesting hints and Easter Eggs from other films, has been jettisoned for crossover bloat -

I try to remember two things when I'm Nerd Ranting:

• They make this stuff for money.
• A lot of fans love this stuff and give them their money.

I don't know man, I can rant all day every day (good thing I'm a fast writer and typist) but maybe the only problem, the whole problem ... is the fans.

Maybe we're not the fans. Maybe we're just cranky weirdos caught in the middle. And we just. Don't. Count.

 

[Sassafras]

I've seen a lot of Waititi interviews and candid stuff. The man is either way too in love with himself or depressed as hell. I'm not sure which because they often look the same.

I try to remember two things when I'm Nerd Ranting:

• They make this stuff for money.
• A lot of fans love this stuff and give them their money.

I don't know man, I can rant all day every day (good thing I'm a fast writer and typist) but maybe the only problem, the whole problem ... is the fans.

Maybe we're not the fans. Maybe we're just cranky weirdos caught in the middle. And we just. Don't. Count.

Good point. Seen enough YT comments that it's clear I just don't get it, that superficial scripts are beside the point when you can stuff a fan favorite in, and the more bloated/crossover, the better.
No wonder Andor's ratings weren't off the charts.

 

[jye4ever]

I’ve seen MTV Movie Awards skits better than this episode.

 

[Ramatuelle]

If all this were "woman hating" though, why would everyone be standing back nodding thier helmets Fett-style when Bo-Katan does something Mandalorian? Everyones like OK cool, good job Bo, Bo is actually quite awesome and what we expect to see when we hear the word "Mandalorian." She is, given her history, even more Mandalorian than Din is.

Its not that people here are hating women. Competent and powerful Mando women will always be admired. Are people smack-talking the Armorer? No.

If "the Mandalorian" can now be anyone, one thing about that is that.... Grogu cannot be everywhere. Ok lets go focus on another Mando right now, lets see Bo fight to gain and keep control of this very stubborn, labile group we call Mandalorians. The frustrating thing is that now we are, to quote MST3K "on a collision course with wackiness" instead of intergalactic bad-@ssitude. The goalposts have shifted, and my beloved space Spartans are being in essence neutered. Male or female! The things that make Mandos compelling and interesting appear to be being taken from them.

What would Kal Skirata say? What would Jaster Mereel say? i know what I say.

 

[Ramatuelle]

I want to see a real analysis of the three seasons ratings, side by side. That would be very telling.

 

[Khev]

I’ve seen MTV Movie Awards skits better than this episode.

Nailed it. The entire episode felt like Jack Black doing the fat Spider-Man back in the day or Napoleon Dynamite and Batman...like somehow there was a "real" version of this episode but what we got was the MTV parody with Jack Black and some fat rapper standing in for two of the real characters.

When I think about it I've basically seen some version of everything I ever hoped to see in SW so I'm beyond caring enough to get upset about any of it. I'm looking forward to more Andor and will probably tune in each and every week to see where the Mando silliness leads, at least until there's not enough redeeming value to make it worth my time.

But there's no denying that this once great show is utterly stupid now.