The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

[The Josh]

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Cut the Joker out of TDK.

I don't know if anyone has said anything that serious. The only part I could agree with is the old Bilbo and Frodo but I like that in there simply as a nod to LOTR. Everything else is part of the story and unlike Lord of the Rings even with the additional material you can leave things in. I get that this movie is made for everyone but as someone who has read the books its nice to see so much left in. Jackson did a pretty damn good job with Lord of the Rings but he's doing an even better job with The Hobbit in that regard.

Saw it yesterday. Loved it! Going back Christmas week to see it again. Riddles in the dark was better than I had hoped.

Nice! I got two more coming up this week.

 

[Mister Ski]

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I saw this over the weekend. I have never read any of the books, but I loved the LOTR trilogy. They are some of my most favorite films that I can watch over and over. The Hobbit wasn't bad, but it is easily the weakest Middle Earth offering for me - mainly due to the length of it coupled with a little too much emphasis on comedy throughout. I don't have a problem with a long movie if it moves along at a good pace. The Hobbit clocks in at just under 3 hours, much like each of the LOTR films, but not much happens for the first 45 min or so, except the dwarves meeting at Bilbo's house. Yes, I know that we need to meet the characters and what not, but that could have been accomplished in about half the time considering after those 45 min, I still could not name more than two of the dwarves...(Thorin and Bomba who reminded me of Friar Tuck) there were too damn many of them. Once they get on the road, the pace picks up and so does the movie.

In terms of the comedy aspect of the film, I don't have a problem with comedy in an adventure movie, but there seemed to be so many instances of silly humor that it made the film appear to be aimed towards kids more than adults. A good example is the three ogres scene that was silly and comical and never once did I feel that any of the characters were in any real danger. Some of my friends have read the book and said there was a lot of stuff in the movie that wasn't in the book - like the ogre scene. It makes sense in that PJ is taking a single, 500 page book and stretching it into a 9 hour production, which is the same length as the LOTR trilogy that was comprised of 3 books and 1500+ pages.

I did like the movie overall, but I have to acknowledge that it could have been a much better film if the editing was a little tighter.

 

[The Josh]

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The Troll sequence minus the snot (which I don't care for) is in the book. Not sure what book your friends read but they're wrong on that part.

 

[Mister Ski]

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The Troll sequence minus the snot (which I don't care for) is in the book. Not sure what book your friends read but they're wrong on that part.

Fair enough. Maybe they don't remember the book as well as some others do. But the point is that stuff was added to the movie that wasn't in the book. Why not be faithful to the book instead of padding it with additional scenes and/or characters (they also said they didn't remember the crazy wizard in the woods) that were not in the book?

 

[The Josh]

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Fair enough. Maybe they don't remember the book as well as some others do. But the point is that stuff was added to the movie that wasn't in the book. Why not be faithful to the book instead of padding it with additional scenes and/or characters (they also said they didn't remember the crazy wizard in the woods) that were not in the book?

Yes, he did add some stuff that was in the appendices to the movie. It helps flesh out the Dwarven history and help tie (white council/Dol Guldur) The Hobbit/The Lord of Rings together. Radagast has only just a line or two in The Lord of the Rings. Adding him just allows him to bring in another Wizard (which for me was cool seeing Radagast on screen (hate the bird crap))

 

[FLOSI]

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The problem is you lose the great prologue of Dale/Erebor. So you'd have to take out then the Frodo/Bilbo part. You really can't take out the Dwarvish intros as that's a major part of the first part of the book.

It doesn't need to be a "chunk" taken out, just a minute ot two here and there. I love these stories quite a bit too, but when I notice that the prologue/pre-adventure portion of the film is too long and then everyone of the 11 other people I went with mention it too it probably is too long.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Yes, he did add some stuff that was in the appendices to the movie. It helps flesh out the Dwarven history and help tie (white council/Dol Guldur) The Hobbit/The Lord of Rings together. Radagast has only just a line or two in The Lord of the Rings. Adding him just allows him to bring in another Wizard (which for me was cool seeing Radagast on screen (hate the bird crap))

Is that what that stuff on his head was?!?!? Nasty!

 

[JosephCPR]

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Deleted scenes for the Blu-Ray

https://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36034

I'm glad to know the extended version is finally confirmed. I actually felt the movie was too short and needed more linking scenes. There, I said it

 

[The Josh]

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Is that what that stuff on his head was?!?!? Nasty!

Yeah, its a nasty design. I think they could have gone with birds nesting in his hair and left the other on the cutting room floor.

 

[Adolfo]

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Yeah, its a nasty design. I think they could have gone with birds nesting in his hair and left the other on the cutting room floor.

Even Poop didnt bother me on this one

 

[Irvy]

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It keeps his skin silky smooth

 

[Snadinator]

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I saw this over the weekend. I have never read any of the books, but I loved the LOTR trilogy. They are some of my most favorite films that I can watch over and over. The Hobbit wasn't bad, but it is easily the weakest Middle Earth offering for me - mainly due to the length of it coupled with a little too much emphasis on comedy throughout. I don't have a problem with a long movie if it moves along at a good pace. The Hobbit clocks in at just under 3 hours, much like each of the LOTR films, but not much happens for the first 45 min or so, except the dwarves meeting at Bilbo's house. Yes, I know that we need to meet the characters and what not, but that could have been accomplished in about half the time considering after those 45 min, I still could not name more than two of the dwarves...(Thorin and Bomba who reminded me of Friar Tuck) there were too damn many of them. Once they get on the road, the pace picks up and so does the movie.

In terms of the comedy aspect of the film, I don't have a problem with comedy in an adventure movie, but there seemed to be so many instances of silly humor that it made the film appear to be aimed towards kids more than adults. A good example is the three ogres scene that was silly and comical and never once did I feel that any of the characters were in any real danger. Some of my friends have read the book and said there was a lot of stuff in the movie that wasn't in the book - like the ogre scene. It makes sense in that PJ is taking a single, 500 page book and stretching it into a 9 hour production, which is the same length as the LOTR trilogy that was comprised of 3 books and 1500+ pages.

I did like the movie overall, but I have to acknowledge that it could have been a much better film if the editing was a little tighter.

The troll scene was in the book. Your friend is horribly mistaken. The Hobbit was always more lighthearted.

 

[Snadinator]

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I have parrots myself and I have to admit, I have been crapped on without noticing it until someone in public pointed it out. It's embarrassing for sure.

 

[Irvy]

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I have parrots myself and I have to admit, I have been crapped on without noticing it until someone in public pointed it out. It's embarrassing for sure.

Good luck though!

 

[The Josh]

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Even Poop didnt bother me on this one

It was just a wtf choice. I get it goes with him having a bird under his hat but just seemed odd. Could do without it for sure.

 

[pixletwin]

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I have seen it twice (3D IMAX and 2D) and I loved it but I have to nitpiks.

1) I prefer grumpy, self important, "old father" Thorin of the book to grumpy, brooding, young-emo Thorin of the movie.

2) The escape from Goblin town scene was way too long and fanciful.

I give it 3 1/2 out of 5.

 

[FLOSI]

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It was just a wtf choice. I get it goes with him having a bird under his hat but just seemed odd. Could do without it for sure.

Radagast didn't need the bird **** sideburn, though I did find it funny... I honestly liked his character, bunny sleigh and all.

 

[pixletwin]

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Me too. Radagast is ok in my book.

 

[The Josh]

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It doesn't need to be a "chunk" taken out, just a minute ot two here and there. I love these stories quite a bit too, but when I notice that the prologue/pre-adventure portion of the film is too long and then everyone of the 11 other people I went with mention it too it probably is too long.

I guess. The only part I might tweak is the old Bilbo/Frodo part. The rest of it played out like I'd hope. I'm not trying to be obtuse or anything but its just not something I can agree with since it wasn't an issue for me.

Totally missed your post flosi. Sorry

Radagast didn't need the bird **** sideburn, though I did find it funny... I honestly liked his character, bunny sleigh and all.

Agreed on all parts.

 

[JonWes]

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The troll scene was in the book. Your friend is horribly mistaken. The Hobbit was always more lighthearted.

Yes, and not only is it in the book, they played it in the movie just as it was written in the book - cockney trolls and all! Yes, some butt scratching and snot humor was added, but to be honest it wasn't really out of step with the feel of that scene from the book. Some girl in the theater I went to see my second viewing was mad that the Eagles saved the day again. Well, time travel back and lodge a complaint with Tolkien!

To be honest, I was ready to cringe at some badly done humor, and was so happy that it worked as well as it did when I saw it! I really liked the more humorous aspect of it. I think it helped the movie, really.

Also, I LOVE the bird crap as a character-building design element. I mean, it's gross but it adds a lot of character. I thought it was just some fungus. But then I realized that's the side the bird nest is on in his hair. I think that's sort of dementedly warped and kind of lovely for it. I adored Radagast, and hope we get to see more of him. I mean, he did pretty effectively take on the Witch King, if only for a little bit.