The Skipper by Iminime & Rainman

[uscmhicks]

Your the only person coming off with any sense of entitlement, and the only one insulting people, why are you taking any of this personally is beyond me, you talk to the guy but your not a part of his team.

My lack of econimics is glaring? Kid the fact is he couldn't make this happen period if he had to pay for licensing rights, he's only on the schedule he puts forward.

If you go back to the first couple of pages after the sculpt was first shown and read the posts from those criticizing , most , if not all of us as well as complimenting the sculptor on a great job were also simply giving our opinions on what could be improved if it were an option.

Then all of a sudden we should be happy with what we've got and not " screaming for perfection ". None of us are !.
I and am sure everyone else were simply making suggestions and if you read back most of us were really happy to see the sculpt anyway and thought it looked quite good.

Some people will say they wont be buying the figure based on the photo because they feel the likeness is off but that doesn't mean they're demanding perfection either , they're just backing out and disappointed with what was a promising project for them.

A couple of points also from someone who's posts are apparently hilarious.

* If you respect someones business and are friends with them try not to be rude to their potential customers.

* If you instantly have to critisize anybody who makes suggestions because of financial constraints then something in the business needs to be changed because things like this happen and eventually in one project down the line something will happen and changes will be necessary.

* If you are simply trying to put across that the sculpt is final and nothing will be changed then just say that and if you don't like any of the suggestions ignore them. We have the right to post anything we like in this thread and it isn't a personal attack at Iminime's team or anyone involved with this figure.

Frankly I'm surprised at how downhill this thread has ended up within a few hours due to a few of us politely making some suggestions and complimenting Rainman's sculpt so you might want to rethink the way you come across in these project threads since you might put off more people than you'd think. Especially if the project is as you say not popular in an Asian market.

All in all , this thread has left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth and it's honestly I'm not sure if I'm interested now. I can completely understand why there were problems in the other threads and it's not us mate.

I do have a question though , if you aren't part of the business and aren't involved in the finances and project why are you so quick to assume the sculpt wont be changed and that Rainman and Iminime wouldn't like to make this as best they can to please their fans ?.
This business must really be struggling if you are already assuming changes such as fattening up the sculpts face aren't likely.
Financial constraints are obviously an issue in most business's but in one such as this where one of your primary goals in to build a customer base this is a bad way to go about it. I know it isn't the case but from the way you reply to people here it's almost as if you don't want us to buy this.

 

[axecutioner18]

You know whats rude?

When I posted something about what maybe the scenario (that the sculpt may be final) because I have experienced the same before in previous, and make a comment on a phenomenon which is widespread on the board (the nitpicking - a common complaint)

members tell you that

Since your the one communicating with them maybe your not communicating what the collector want and instead dismissing everything we say as "nitpicking".
I believe there is a big disconnect between Fan and Sculpt team and its a shame, because a lot of the suggestions brought up are valid, but they fall on deaf ears.

and then going about it...

because according to axe we are "nitpicking" and the sculpt has already been "somewhat approved"

And my mistake was to try explain WHY I said it MAY NOT BE CHANGED??!!

And see RIGHT THERE, even you read it as 'be happy with what you get, dont scream for perfection'. I understand you are fans, but like I said, you are mistaking my simple explanation as an affront to your criticism

Last time I checked, I didnt come to threads to pull down criticism, because its a free country. But I believe my comment that this MAY be final as its already in test paint stages make people think that somehow with the power vested in me by god, I am trying to sabotage this project!

 

[Deckard]

Honestly you should just stop posting at this point all togeather and let Denny speak for himself, your doing more harm then you realise.

 

[meth head]

I wonder if seeing this sculpt from some different angles would help?

I would be really interested to see how it looks in profile. I think we may see the sculpt in a different light. I get a feeling the sculpt is fatter than that angle is portraying perhaps.

 

[axecutioner18]

Well I dont mean any harm to Denny's business, but if my posting here means hes going to lose business from some of you...

 

[intothevoid]

I think Axe has been doing a great job being the 'point man' for Denny, let's not lose sight of how much time he's spent going back and forth and communicating for everyone's benefit.

Everyone is free to nitpick and photoshop all they want and i'm probably amongst the most ____ when it comes to things like that, as you know. As Axe said Denny and Rainman do look at these threads but if you feel like any comments are being ignored, Denny's direct line is always open as well btw as he KEEPS saying whenever he posts - you all can email him your critiques directly and as long as they are done respectfully I see no reason why he wouldn't at least look at them and consider them. If there are things he thinks he can tweak while still keeping the price within his target range, he will do his best.

There is also the Facebook route.

 

[armysoldier74b]

Every day a new company opens for business and many others close, because of poor business models. The writing is on the wall if our suggestions are ignored. I am supposed to pay $300 dollars for a half_ss figure when everyone knows the team creating the sculpt has unlimited potential?

We are talking about a team that includes Rainman for crying out loud. It took one Youtube video of Bill by DarthMagnus for me to be hooked. I saw that beautiful Bill figure and not knowing how much they sold for, was ready to offer Darth 1500 dollars for it. Only reason I started paying attention to the Iminime team was when Rainman's name was thrown out there.

Iminime used "directed by Rainman" and I understand it was a way for the company to get notice. I have no problem with this, but when you do that you better bring it. Instead of shoving these figures down our throats and expect us to pay "so the company can stay afloat" Why don't they take their time to make something truly special. Then you don't have to come on this thread and presale us the figure. Just upload the picture and let the photo do all the talking

 

[meth head]

I do feel for Ankit. I have been in that position where you are the middle guy running between artist and collector. It is a thankless task and often a frustrating one.

Ankit will of course develop a bond over the course of time with the artist. He will quite rightly defend and find his loyalty lying with the artist.

I think the sculpt is fantastic. A tweak would be good but if not it is still hands down the best Tony Soprano on the 1/6 market.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Well I dont mean any harm to Denny's business, but if my posting here means hes going to lose business from some of you...

Yea Dude......No disrespect, but you need to sit down.

A majority of potential buyers are all on board to see some tweaks. I would hope that Denny and Rainman LISTEN to their fans at atleast make an attempt to modify a few things, and I get that Denny has always been open to do so. But your feeding us the "hurry up and buy" and your not even getting a check! Calm yourself.

Rainman & Denny: Almost Perfect Tony! Please make some modification for the Fans. Thankyou.

 

[armysoldier74b]

"You took my passion with my work"

Look familiar people?

I apologize to everyone in here for being overly opinionated, but I've gone on Sopranos marathons more than once with my wife and I am about to go on another here shortly. The Sopranos is a beautifully written work of art and I would like for it to be well represented.

It means something to me and I can care less if its 100% accurate. What is more important to me is the passion put into a figure. There's no need to talk up the figure the figure actually does all the talking. You don't have to tell me how much hard work was put into it because the figure does that. You don't have to tell me who is the sculptor because I can already tell. You don't have to tell me your doing me a favor by keeping costs low because your not doing me any. Instead, a disservice is done to a figure that has potential Masterpiece written all over it. Its the difference between looking at a $300 figure and thinking to yourself "Thats too expensive" and looking at a $500 dollar figure and thinking "What a steal !!"

I'm done

 

[Bullet]

"You took my passion with my work"

Look familiar people?

I apologize to everyone in here for being overly opinionated, but I've gone on Sopranos marathons more than once with my wife and I am about to go on another here shortly. The Sopranos is a beautifully written work of art and I would like for it to be well represented.

It means something to me and I can care less if its 100% accurate. What is more important to me is the passion put into a figure. There's no need to talk up the figure the figure actually does all the talking. You don't have to tell me how much hard work was put into it because the figure does that. You don't have to tell me who is the sculptor because I can already tell. You don't have to tell me your doing me a favor by keeping costs low because your not doing me any. Instead, a disservice is done to a figure that has potential Masterpiece written all over it. Its the difference between looking at a $300 figure and thinking to yourself "Thats too expensive" and looking at a $500 dollar figure and thinking "What a steal !!"

I'm done

Spot on! I hope denny and rainman make this figure all it can be

 

[denny kim]

Good morning all ^^
just woke up. and couldnt read all the thread yet.

i will check all feedback and consider what things
i can do ~~ when i goto office

please dont argue~~. you dont need to be stressed in this hobby

thanks. ~~.

Denny.

 

[Thrustmaster]

you're doing a great job axe with giving us all the informations, updating here and there everything, talking with denny about our desires etc, but sometimes it's really annoying reading some of your posts.

i remember before this project started, you've acted in a way to calm our desires of wanting a tony figure. you've posted so many times that this won't happening, it's not interesting for the asian market and it should have been better if denny would take your wishings of doing some sherlock figures etc. then telling us here that this is a final sculpt, there will not be any updates on the sculpt etc. maybe you've thought it in a different way, but still you've written it in the other way.

then in the matrix thread, everyone screams out loud for wanting to buy some of the neo headsculpts alone, and you've posted here that you're going to advice denny NOT to sell some neo sculpts alone. it's not the only situation where you've stated this that you're going to advice denny not to do this or that, because there were a lot of interests here.

sometimes i seriously can't understand and follow your thoughts about it. you're stating that you're not an employee of iminime but you're acting so if you're the ceo and trying everything to calm our desires down. i think you're interfering too much in those things. let these things be a part between the potential buyers and denny himself.
you still can give us all those updates and infos, as i appreciate it a lot, but that has to be all. i hope you're understanding me as my english isn't that good at late night ^^

like you've said, denny and rainman are coming over here and reading all our comments and advices, so there is no need from you to interfere and give denny advices what he has to do even there are a lot of people who are asking kindly for some improvements or chances to buy some parts. it's not your decision to say "no, this sculpt is final", or "i will advice denny to not sell seperate headsculpts". your job is only to give us some infos and that's it.

and with that being said, i still appreciate your work with managing all together and bringing us all those informations and keeping everything clear and i hope you won't get this as an insult or something.

 

[meth head]

Good morning all ^^
just woke up. and couldnt read all the thread yet.

i will check all feedback and consider what things
i can do ~~ when i goto office

please dont argue~~. you dont need to be stressed in this hobby

thanks. ~~.

Denny.

exactly.

This hobby is meant to be so pleasurable and yet it is so stressful.

Happy reading Denny (please don't be too mad)

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Yesss! Sounds like promising news!

 

[denny kim]

haha ^^.
dont worry. i will calm myself ^^*
btw. i have another paint version oh him just done

i will show you guys too.

maybe i will show some more angles of the sculpt.

the sculpt was based on later season.

anyway, i will read all and consider what i can do.

but i cant promise many things.
because i know i cant satisfy all. so i have to
find things middle ^^.
thanks.

re : ankit
thank you always for your great support.

thanks

Denny

 

[meth head]

haha ^^.
dont worry. i will calm myself ^^*
btw. i have another paint version oh him just done

i will show you guys too.

maybe i will show some more angles of the sculpt.

the sculpt was based on later season.

anyway, i will read all and consider what i can do.

but i cant promise many things.
because i know i cant satisfy all. so i have to
find things middle ^^.
thanks.

re : ankit
thank you always for your great support.

thanks

Denny

Can't wait to see that then. I think more angles would be beneficial.

 

[Raymond F.]

Axe hit some good points we all have to remember, Denny and Rainman frequent the threads. It's a direct line of communication between artist and customer, it has it's positives and negatives.

I also definitely get the argument of value for dollar but talent does also take time amd time is money. I work in an industry where craft is bogged down with commercialism. It's not an easy line to tread.

Further to that we still have to remember and take into consideration that our eye and demand level has raised as the bar has raised. Two or so years ago I comissioned a tony soprano sculpt. In those days everyone took it at face value and love it. Today it's not up to par with any sculpt really in terms of likness, detail, accuracy etc. it's an unfortunate side effect of excellence and a high standard. And it's a lot of pressure. And pressure is not always productive for creatives, it can be productive and it can also be damning at the same time. Iminime and Rainman produce product that destroys sometching like the aforementioned subway jack which sure cost a hundred bucks, but the detail and craft level is a third as good as what iminime is doing.

We are a fickle bunch, but that reality aside you can't help how you've been conditioned when the bar is raised so high.

As Denny said though you can't stress too much, afterall it's only toys. I have so much stress with my real life amd job that toys need to be fun so I can keep my sanity.

 

[meth head]

Good post Ray.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

This sculpt is almost there. Again, I hope they can blow us away with a perfected sculpt (fattening). I don't want this to be brushed off with the different angles and other paint job schtick, but we'll give that a look too.