The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

ink said:
Woodbury on the show is nothing compared to the comic version

It was a cesspool in the comic.

Fritz said:
Although I agree (for the most part) with the complaints about the crappy writing and character development and it's something nice for us to discuss here, based on the numbers/ratings, the masses disagree.

...and it's never stopped me from watching the show.

I feel like it's going to turn into Dexter with Zombies.

Wake · Oct 4, 2013

Its pretty clear to me that the show has been a victim of its own success.

The reason Breaking Bad was given so much latitude has more to do with timing than anything else. It was the networks first show. In a time when AMC didn't meddle with their products. Like Madmen, BrBa was allowed to grow into itself and find its voice naturally. Ratings were accepted. Whatever they were.

With TWD AMC's alsways been about 'showing them the money'. They gave Frank Durabont 6 episodes and wouldnt even give him the common courtesy of another season... What if Matthew Weiner and Vince Gilligan had been shown the door after season 1 of their series!?! As good as BrBA is--and in my mind thats the best ever--the first season wasn't exactly a massive hook point. The show really didnt hit its stride until season 2.

AMC has meddled WAAAAAY too much in TWD. Right from the beginning. I was actually okay with the Durabont firing/Mazzarra take-over because I thought that once we got into the meat of Mazzarra's episodes (second half of season 2, first wuarter of season 3) is when the shows been its absolute best. That didnt last. Its a shame.

Sweet Rabbit · Oct 4, 2013

I seems like they're pretty close to writing the show into a corner that it can't get out of

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

I think the biggest problem with season 3 is they were too worried about bringing the Governor back in season 4 for anything of substance to happen in season 3.

The highest point of season 3 was Merle's death, and that's it. Lori's wasn't really anything and Andrea was wanted by fans to die :lol

Mister Ski · Oct 4, 2013

ink said:
I seems like they're pretty close to writing the show into a corner that it can't get out of

How so? There is a world of countless storylines they can use from here. No need to be confined strictly to the comic. In fact, I prefer they break new ground in the show as much as possible.

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

Mister Ski said:
How so? There is a world of countless storylines they can use from here. No need to be confined strictly to the comic. In fact, I prefer they break new ground in the show as much as possible.

They can't do that right, they tried to do that the most last season and it was a bust.

a-dev · Oct 4, 2013

Snake Plissken said:
I think the biggest problem with season 3 is they were too worried about bringing the Governor back in season 4 for anything of substance to happen in season 3.

The highest point of season 3 was Merle's death, and that's it. Lori's wasn't really anything and Andrea was wanted by fans to die

Eh? The Lori death episode was the best of the season. Very tense and a great final scene.

Mister Ski · Oct 4, 2013

Snake Plissken said:
They can't do that right, they tried to do that the most last season and it was a bust.

I can counter your one example with two words...Daryl Dixon.

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

Mister Ski said:
I can counter your one example with two words...Daryl Dixon.

Overrated character :lol

He didn't do anything in season 3 aside from wear a poncho and squint.

FatCatEatsAlot · Oct 4, 2013

Tried to avoid all spoilers and have done well, so far. My favourite is the actor Norman Reedus. I have met him at the Comic Con in the summer 2013. He did tell us some news regarding season 4 but nothing to give anything away. No spoilers. Good for him.

averagejo · Oct 4, 2013

Snake Plissken said:
Overrated character

He didn't do anything in season 3 aside from wear a poncho and squint.

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

averagejo said:

Maybe... he's not overrated, and everyone else is just bad :dunno

They really need to give Rick some character already... The Ricktatorship lasted one scene :lol

averagejo · Oct 4, 2013

Yeah, Rick spent a lot of time walking around frowning.

Snake Plissken · Oct 4, 2013

averagejo said:
Yeah, Rick spent a lot of time walking around frowning.

Well he was occupied with this stuff and things...

crows · Oct 4, 2013

Wake said:
Its pretty clear to me that the show has been a victim of its own success.

The reason Breaking Bad was given so much latitude has more to do with timing than anything else. It was the networks first show. In a time when AMC didn't meddle with their products. Like Madmen, BrBa was allowed to grow into itself and find its voice naturally. Ratings were accepted. Whatever they were.

With TWD AMC's alsways been about 'showing them the money'. They gave Frank Durabont 6 episodes and wouldnt even give him the common courtesy of another season... What if Matthew Weiner and Vince Gilligan had been shown the door after season 1 of their series!?! As good as BrBA is--and in my mind thats the best ever--the first season wasn't exactly a massive hook point. The show really didnt hit its stride until season 2.

AMC has meddled WAAAAAY too much in TWD. Right from the beginning. I was actually okay with the Durabont firing/Mazzarra take-over because I thought that once we got into the meat of Mazzarra's episodes (second half of season 2, first wuarter of season 3) is when the shows been its absolute best. That didnt last. Its a shame.

I remember reading ( I think it was here)

that the problem is that AMC Fully owns Walking Dead while they didn't fully own Breaking bad or mad men,

So they couldn't mess with BB or MM the way they can mess with Walking Dead, With Walking Dead there is no stopping them on what idiotic decisions they make.

I don't know who else owns Breaking Bad, but I clearly remember reading how AMC keeps messing up with Walking Dead because there is no one telling them not to do bad things.