Their will be no ES for 1:2 Iron man, thoughts?

[Batman29]

I agree something should be done, I wouldn't feed or fall into the hype about eliteness of being a owner of this piece, I think that is what Sideshow really wants the collectors to believe...that they are just that elite... It's really going to be interesting to see what the future entails for this piece and those first future owners experiences when it's all said and done.

Well said Ski.

Sideshow will have no problem selling this item. If you're already emailing them telling them that you'll only put down the deposit if they meet your demands - I'm telling you now - they'd rather not have your deposit.

There will be plenty of people that will want this item and since there isn't some arbitrary edition size that they have to produce, they'll make just enough to fill the orders. It could end up being one of the rarest SSC pieces ever produced.

Look at the first SSC/Weta LotR pieces - they were unnumbered and are now some of the most sought after.

Dave, yes, this is true, I know. It could be one of the rarer pieces, then again, it could be selling for many years to come. As a collector buying from now a well established company in the collectables business, to me it just does not say much to do what they are doing. I could understand, maybe, if they were just starting out. But they are a business to make money ... and to this point they have done this well while balancing the needs and wants of avid collectors. This move from SS, IMO, is not one that does that. I fear this could be a future trend, and we should let them know that it is not acceptable. This is of course, assuming that people do indeed feel this way as avid collectors. I may be in the minority here.

Im not sure if I look at this so much as an investment as some of you. ES matters but no so much since I dont sell these.
Also, if sideshow screws me over then they will get it back! All I have to do is call them and say its sh@@! And then they send me a paid return slip and it goes back!
Simple, easy and painless!
No I am not afraid, I think Sideshow is a very good company and they will take care of me.
Is it going to depreciate? I would think it will, I am not going to lie to you and say it will not. And for that you can wait about a year and buy for maybe less than $1500.00.
Its like the new sports car, you drive it out of the lot and it devaluates! But if you wait a while you will be able to get it less.
How long would you like to wait?

And Aver, this is why I know I can order it and be safe with my money with them. What I am saying is that this piece should NOT be like that of a car. It is supposed to be a high end collectable, it should be treated as such, from the way it is boxed, to the way it made, to the way it is numbered, to the way it has an ES.

If CM can do this, so can SS. I mean really, we are talking about $2000 item here.

Again, maybe I am in the minority with this, and if so, I will zip my lip, :

And this is one of the things I like about you Aver ... you go into buying a collectable because it what you want, not for an investment purpose ... indeed a sign of an avid collector.

I guess my big fear is that SS will continue doing this more and more in the future if we do not let them know that this is simply not acceptable for a high end collectable at $2000. Yet, they do have numbered bases and ES for pieces as low as $150.

Make no sense to me.

 

[creature4000]

@ those who think SS cares!

 

[Amin Ko]

As a fan of Iron Man, I really dont care much about the edition issue. All I want is good paint quality and well scuplt statue iron man which can make my day happy.

just my 2 cents and hope sideshow will make the life size iron man in the future.

Rgds
Amin Ko

 

[ecekat]

this maquette costs too much to be on the stock...it will be produced for those we ordered it i think...

 

[averone]

And Aver, this is why I know I can order it and be safe with my money with them. What I am saying is that this piece should NOT be like that of a car. It is supposed to be a high end collectable, it should be treated as such, from the way it is boxed, to the way it made, to the way it is numbered, to the way it has an ES.

If CM can do this, so can SS. I mean really, we are talking about $2000 item here.

Again, maybe I am in the minority with this, and if so, I will zip my lip, :

And this is one of the things I like about you Aver ... you go into buying a collectable because it what you want, not for an investment purpose ... indeed a sign of an avid collector.

I guess my big fear is that SS will continue doing this more and more in the future if we do not let them know that this is simply not acceptable for a high end collectable at $2000. Yet, they do have numbered bases and ES for pieces as low as $150.

Make no sense to me.

Ok, I tell you what. I will make a phone call today and write a letter to Sideshow. Make them exactly know what I expect from my hard earned $2K!

I am not saying I dont want quality! With a price tag of $2K I better get quality!
Again, I have no doubt that they will deliver! The thing is unlike the 1:1 bust these are to be done one by one bases depending on how many order they will undoubtedly pay closer attention to this statue.

 

[averone]

As a fan of Iron Man, I really dont care much about the edition issue. All I want is good paint quality and well scuplt statue iron man which can make my day happy.

just my 2 cents and hope sideshow will make the life size iron man in the future.

Rgds
Amin Ko

Thats my thinking also!
I am after quality and not quantity!

I guess were getting older and wiser!

 

[Bezzerkerr]

SIDESHOW COLLECTIBLES with no edition sizes

It's always great when others as "How many were made?" and you respond with a POOP-EATING-GRIN, "100 in the world." the reponse is usually "wow, that's rare!"

now the reponse is, " Acutally there is now way to tell, but let me tell you these are hard to find."

there response is, "OK so, you actually have no idea."

example:

The coveted SILVER SCREEN EDITION Universal Monsters would not be 1/2 as popular if they didn't have the EXTREMELY LIMITED EDITION SIZES.

 

[ecekat]

have to agree!!!

 

[Batman29]

As a fan of Iron Man, I really dont care much about the edition issue. All I want is good paint quality and well scuplt statue iron man which can make my day happy.

just my 2 cents and hope sideshow will make the life size iron man in the future.

Rgds
Amin Ko

Ok, I tell you what. I will make a phone call today and write a letter to Sideshow. Make them exactly know what I expect from my hard earned $2K!

I am not saying I dont want quality! With a price tag of $2K I better get quality!
Again, I have no doubt that they will deliver! The thing is unlike the 1:1 bust these are to be done one by one bases depending on how many order they will undoubtedly pay closer attention to this statue.

Amin and Aver, you have to know I respect you guys a great deal in what you have to say and the amount of time you guys posting pics and well thought out statements in this wonderful hobby of ours.

I completely respect the fact the ES does not matter within your collection when you collect, as it is for the purity of the piece that both you and others collect in. No one can ever find fault with that.

The ES is more to keep SS and other companies in sync, to balance power between the consumer and the producer.

Thanks for your opinions, and reminding all of us, bottom line, why the avid collecter collects. And Averone, thanks a ton for calling SS, it means a lot for all of us to keep the balance between consumer and producer, and for those that ES does matter as part of their collection.

Nice to see this thread is now giving awesome similar and differing philosophies, ones which strengthen our hobby and make us reflect on us as collectors.

 

[Batman29]

SIDESHOW COLLECTIBLES with no edition sizes

It's always great when others as "How many were made?" and you respond with a POOP-EATING-GRIN, "100 in the world." the reponse is usually "wow, that's rare!"

now the reponse is, " Acutally there is now way to tell, but let me tell you these are hard to find."

there response is, "OK so, you actually have no idea."

example:

The coveted SILVER SCREEN EDITION Universal Monsters would not be 1/2 as popular if they didn't have the EXTREMELY LIMITED EDITION SIZES.

Hmm, I never thought of this that way Bezz, yet it is so true. I am often asked how many were made of some, not all pieces, when people see these for the first time. It just somewhat dawned on me that people who ask this when they see a collection and don't necessarily collect the stuff, are trying in their minds to figure out how rare it is by putting a number to it, making it a more concrete thought. From their the next jump is value.

Whether their thoughts are indeed true or not in terms of ES to dollars is not the point. The point is they do it, and ES does indeed become another factor in the equation. You nailed that one.

 

[The Mike]

Here is the bottom line as far as I am concerned. I don't care if this is limited to 1 or limited to 1,000,000,000. I don't care if this weigh 5 lbs or 500 lbs. I just want Sideshow to take the proper steps to make sure it doesn't flake on me within the month. I just want to make sure it doesn't come with so many scratches that it looks like I bought a BD and I want it to be sent completely working lighting up like its supposed to.

If Sideshow can produce this then I'll feel like its money well spent. Should this have been numbered? Absolutely, for the price might as well go the extra mile and make people feel warm and snuggly. Do I understand why its not, absolutely because returns, etc would be a pain in the ass especially if this turns out like most other Iron Man pieces.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

do you think Sideshow left them un-numbered because they want to prepare for a MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RETURNS QC issues?

that makes sense if it does.

What other expensive Sideshow pieces are un-numbered?:
-t-800 battle damaged 1:1 bust ... was the chrome bust numbered?

 

[The Mike]

Absolutely. If this were limited to 100 then 100 aren't made its more like 120 to compensate for the Artist Proofs, gifts to other via Sideshow, returns etc. Seeing Master Replicas operate taught me that. Of those that are created there are some that never actually make it out because QC catches them screwed up from the factory. Others go out to customers and get returned some with tiny imperfections (I remember seeing a Luke Lightsaber returned to MR because there was a scuff in between the pummel and the handle that was only visible if you held it to your eye in bright light), some for huge glaring imperfections like flaking or cracking as we are seeing with SSC pieces now.

Considering these are being sold all over the world and traveling for distances, I would assume that SSC is 1: creating an open edition to see how many they sell, so they aren't left with 200 rotting in the warehouse for example and to deal with returns. If 300 have been ordered around the "cutoff" time whenever that may be then they'll make the amount over it and ship but I have a feeling we won't see an ES for a while until the initial hiccups are over.

 

[jye4ever]

And this is why one of the few people i'll continously listen to in this forum is The Mike......even when it comes to the Marvel movie news scoops as well...

Mike, any news on the new trailer for Iron Man 2

 

[ecekat]

And this is why one of the few people i'll continously listen to in this forum is The Mike......even when it comes to the Marvel movie news scoops as well...

Mike, any news on the new trailer for Iron Man 2

i will play doom in iron man 2!!!!

 

[The Mike]

Mike, any news on the new trailer for Iron Man 2

Last I found the largest rumor is that it will debut with Sherlock Holmes on December 25th in theater with it appearing online the week before.

 

[jye4ever]

i will play doom in iron man 2!!!!

You will do no such thing!

You will grow some hair on your knuckles and chest and purchase Iron Child immediately regardless of deposit issues, ES issues and Iron Man quality control issues.....

That's what you're going to do...

And you call yourself a Spartan........

 

[jye4ever]

Last I found the largest rumor is that it will debut with Sherlock Holmes on December 25th in theater with it appearing online the week before.

Cool deal, looking forward to it, i'm probably the only one in the world though, well, you me and ece

Thanks bro

 

[ecekat]

You will do no such thing!

You will grow some hair on your knuckles and chest and purchase Iron Child immediately regardless of deposit issues, ES issues and Iron Man quality control issues.....

That's what you're going to do...

And you call yourself a Spartan........

i would love to add this in my collection me friend..but with shipping being about 300 i will have to pay about 700 dollars in taxes...

 

[The Mike]

What other expensive Sideshow pieces are un-numbered?:
-t-800 battle damaged 1:1 bust ... was the chrome bust numbered?

Terminator products do not have the shipping history that Iron Man products do. I would imagine there is less to worry about.