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People keep forgetting that Thorin was an OLD DWARF. BB would have been perfect any way you slice it!

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I shall never love again. :monkey2
 
Hello, police? I need assistance, there's someone trying to break into my house!

Uh, yeah, I'll pay the $1000 call-out fee...

Honey! Kids ain't gon school tomorra, just spent the teacher's fee on the cops.

Police are paid through taxes and isn't an individual that provides a service.
 
And what they provide is not a commodity. It's force, specifically retaliatory force, and it's necessary for the existence of markets to begin with. Government has a highly limited function in a free society: protect the rights of its citizens.

In an unfree society, sky's the limit. It can do whatever it wants. It has the guns/police.
 
Police aren't selling anything.

They're providing a community service, which requires time and resources. Public health can be seen in much the same way.

Police are paid through taxes and isn't an individual that provides a service.

Equally a national healthcare system collects and distributes taxes to health providers to dispense various health services. Police engage in a lot of paid activities that can be seen as providing a community service, including early intervention through education, and liaising with youth, women, social and mental health services.

And what they provide is not a commodity. It's force, specifically retaliatory force, and it's necessary for the existence of markets to begin with. Government has a highly limited function in a free society: protect the rights of its citizens.

In an unfree society, sky's the limit. It can do whatever it wants. It has the guns/police.

Public health has all sorts of commodification implications though when viewed in the context of human resources. And the rights of citizens are typically determined in a democracy by the policy platform of their elected representatives. If the citizenry deems a broad-based public healthcare system as a right and are prepared to commit taxes accordingly, then this isn't an imposition by government.
 
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I'm not sure if I can break you of the state as Providence idea, but do you see the difference between force and trade?

And rights are determined by human nature. Natural law is derived from this understanding. Contrast that with arbitrary lists of legal privileges, concocted by bureaucratic decree or mob demand. Natural rights are observed because humans need them to survive, per their identity as humans.
 
"arbitrary lists of legal privileges, concocted by bureaucratic decree or mob demand." If youre talking about the US some examples would be great.
 
You're ignoring their feeling bro.

Feelings man.

It's all about how people feel now.

Can't have any hurt snowflakes.
 
Their opinion is more important than your opinion.

Though the USofA has shown who's opinion holds more weight.
 
This is true. Although I still have a bleak outlook on the future of it.



Vern's line about these kids will be running the country seems to be quite relevant today.
 
"arbitrary lists of legal privileges, concocted by bureaucratic decree or mob demand." If youre talking about the US some examples would be great.

ACA, for starters. But I was not specifying the U.S.

In any social system, rights can be based on arbitrary power, or they can be based in scientific, natural fact. By necessity, the enforcement of one makes the other impossible (in any human society).
 
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