Things I Hate

[Snake Plissken]

A lot of waiters with music degrees too

 

[hockeyflow33]

https://www.bls.gov/emp/images/ep_chart_001.png

Taken from the bureau of labor statistics for 2016 if you believe it:

HS only- $692 wk., unemployment rate 5.2%
college only- $1156 wk., 2.7%
Professional degree- $1745 wk., 1.6%


Quick google search supports the findings that college grads almost always make more than non college grads. Thats just math.

That's not to say one is a better person than the other, or who's a harder worker, or who is more patriotic, or loves their kids more.

This is a bad reference. I guarantee plumbers, electricians, etc make far more than most college degrees. Finance, economics and engineering degrees prop up those salary numbers.


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[devilof76]

I specifically avoided college because my strengths and interests all lie in the humanities. They aren't by nature useless. The way they're taught is simply bankrupt. I wouldn't pay a dime for a philosophy degree from a major university. It isn't worth that much.

 

[pixletwin]

A lot of waiters with music degrees too

I know lots of people with music degrees and not one of them is a waiter. They are sound engineers and teachers and working musicians and... eternal students.

 

[devilof76]

If I thought I could teach, I'd be all over a graduate degree. I know I don't have the stomach for it. If I wanted an endless debate with a wall, I'd just troll facebook.

 

[crows]

I know lots of people with music degrees and not one of them is a waiter. They are sound engineers and teachers and working musicians and... eternal students.

I do. Might be different state by state lol. They all have bands but not musical work, they are cool guys

 

[devilof76]

Most musical careers don't end up corporate. We can't all be Tom Morello and Chris Cornell. That said, you hardly need a degree just to play.

 

[pixletwin]

Being successful and utilizing your degree doesn't necessarily mean beaucoup bucks either. not everyone goes to college to be rich and find a six figure income. Some people go to school to become educated in a subject they feel passionate about.

 

[pixletwin]

But musician work is limited i think.

You have to make your own luck. Just like everything else in life.

 

[devilof76]

Everybody has a solution to how society should be reconfigured to solve their problems, when that's the only real answer.

 

[ali032373]

A lot of ppl with liberal arts or humanities degrees go into teaching. Some get to the collegiate level. Thats not small dollars. Or they get jobs as administrators at schools. If you get to the collegiate level, again, not small dollars.

The other componet that hasnt been raised is the toll certain jobs take on your body. If youre installing hvac units or youre a carpenter theres a much greater chance that youll suffer some serious injury. At a minimum youre wearing your body down at a much greater rate. Add to that the normal degrading of the body and you can have some serious problems. I can tell you you dont want to be hauling lumber or pipes up the stairs at 50. Or spend all day leaning over a car hood. If you make it retirement at 65 i would think your knees and back would be shot.

 

[Snake Plissken]

A lot of ppl with liberal arts or humanities degrees go into Antifa recruitment.

Fixed.

 

[Rambler]

A good friend of my wife went to Utah to get her Masters in Creative Writing. She now works as a librarian. She's about as far left as they come too.

 

[The Ween]

A lot of ppl with liberal arts or humanities degrees go into teaching. Some get to the collegiate level. Thats not small dollars. Or they get jobs as administrators at schools. If you get to the collegiate level, again, not small dollars.

The other componet that hasnt been raised is the toll certain jobs take on your body. If youre installing hvac units or youre a carpenter theres a much greater chance that youll suffer some serious injury. At a minimum youre wearing your body down at a much greater rate. Add to that the normal degrading of the body and you can have some serious problems. I can tell you you dont want to be hauling lumber or pipes up the stairs at 50. Or spend all day leaning over a car hood. If you make it retirement at 65 i would think your knees and back would be shot.

You need to get out more into rural America. Not so many desk jobs out this way.

 

[ali032373]

??

I think the point is applicable regardless of location. Working as a mechanic is far more taxing on the body than say a social worker or a banker. Those professions exist all over the world- rural, urban, and suburban.

 

[Snake Plissken]

A good friend of my wife went to Utah to get her Masters in Creative Writing. She now works as a librarian. She's about as far left as they come too.

All that time and money spent getting that and she's got a job shushing people.

 

[devilof76]

Fixed.

I hope you don't think that farmers, mechanics, etc. are the professions able to counter the academics manufacturing these new brownshirts.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I hope you don't think that farmers, mechanics, etc. are the professions able to counter the academics manufacturing these new brownshirts.

You read a little too much into that, I was only referring to what I quoted specifically.

 

[ali032373]

I was just talking wear and tear to the body.

You then have catastrophic injury, like electrocution, falls of a great distance, industrial accidents.

Forbes list of most dangerous jobs in order: industrial fisherman, logger, aircraft pilot, waste collection, roofers, steel worker, rancher/farmer, trucker, power line installer, and cab driver.

 

[hoodonit00]

Fixed.