Things I Hate

[Snake Plissken]

Oh sorry I brought your hero up

Should we blame Bush?

 

[ali032373]

Obama wants to take my guns.

But he's cool with bumpstop machine gun modifications.

Got it. Makes TONS of sense.

 

[Snake Plissken]

 

[Solidus]

All the arguing in here, man don't you guys have lunch breaks?

 

[Lejuan]

Someone's mind will change any second now, I can feel it.

 

[ali032373]

NRA announces it supports the regulation of bump stocks.

Take that Obama.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Again, more words about Obama and guns that no one said here really reaching aren't we?

 

[xipotec]

It's hysterical to hear people blame Obama for this....
He he even attempted to regulate anything to do with firearms people would have crapped in their hats and called foul.

And I am a CC holder who has guns.....BTW


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[Snake Plissken]

I just blame the cronies under him for allowing the bump fire in. Plus, his administration was all for guns during Fast & Furious.

 

[xipotec]

I just blame the cronies under him for allowing the bump fire in. Plus, his administration was all for guns during Fast & Furious.

LOL

I find it amazing the NRA is falling in line on this. My guess is they know most people were horrified by the attack and it simple political maneuvering to help President Trump get an easy win.

I just wonder if they have calculated that the majority of NRA members will not want to hear anything about regulating or banning anything to do with firearms.




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[hockeyflow33]

The best part is that multiple news stories have talked to gun store owners and they all say they maybe sell one bump stock per year...until this past week.


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[Snake Plissken]

LOL

I find it amazing the NRA is falling in line on this. My guess is they know most people were horrified by the attack and it simple political maneuvering to help President Trump get an easy win.

I just wonder if they have calculated that the majority of NRA members will not want to hear anything about regulating or banning anything to do with firearms.




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Bump fire is something I was only vaguely familiar with before this and in no way should it be without restrictions. It should be regulated as much as a full auto firearm without modifications.

I'm not big fan of the NRA myself, but this is one concession they should make.

I've mentioned earlier, and as a CC like yourself, you probably are aware of the red tape around getting a class three license to own full auto firearms. Just add this to that level of red tape.

The best part is that multiple news stories have talked to gun store owners and they all say they maybe sell one bump stock per year...until this past week.


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It's a garbage attachment and you can't hit **** with it... unless your target is very large... much like in Vegas.

And yeah, whenever there's possible legislation going through all the gun nuts buy them up. And guess what? Nothing will ever be done with those things in all likelihood

 

[ali032373]

Doing quick research- the bump stock was classified as a firearms part, or accessory. Not an actual firearm. Consequently, the regulation of the bump stock was outside the jurisdiction of the ATF.

Sen. Feinstein of CA tried to outlaw a feature akin to the bump stock in 2013 after Sandy Hook. The legislation never passed.

But to try to put this on Obama is simply asinine. Beyond asinine.

 

[xipotec]

I have fired a bump. It's definitely hard to control, but as stated , when your target is a soft target of thousands.....pray and spray will kill and wound many. As it did.

The issue is the barrel heats up very quickly as even a good aluminum barrel is not made to dissipate the heat generated by rapid fire.

Which is why this crazy monkey had 10 rifles lined up and bumped with huge mags.

I have fired my AR as fast as the blowback allowed , and the port was turning red and smoking.....

This guy knew exactly what was up, and his results show that.

It's reasonable to band bumps, but it won't change what happened or what could still happen. And most NRA members will still ***** about it. Mostly because the majority of them are huge nuts themselves....I was a member , but gave up on them back in 2000.

You could have inflicted this damage with a semi if you knew what you were doing.




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[Snake Plissken]

Doing quick research- the bump stock was classified as a firearms part, or accessory. Not an actual firearm. Consequently, the regulation of the bump stock was outside the jurisdiction of the ATF.

Sen. Feinstein of CA tried to outlaw a feature akin to the bump stock in 2013 after Sandy Hook. The legislation never passed.

But to try to put this on Obama is simply asinine. Beyond asinine.

Man, you're still going on about that?

I have fired a bump. It's definitely hard to control, but as stated , when your target is a soft target of thousands.....pray and spray will kill and wound many. As it did.

The issue is the barrel heats up very quickly as even a good aluminum barrel is not made to dissipate the heat generated by rapid fire.

Which is why this crazy monkey had 10 rifles lined up and bumped with huge mags.

I have fired my AR as fast as the blowback allowed , and the port was turning red and smoking.....

This guy knew exactly what was up, and his results show that.

It's reasonable to bad bumps, but it won't change what happened or what could still happen.

You could have inflicted this damage with a semi if you knew what you were doing.




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Yep. And to stupidly say a "silencer"... uh suppressor would of had any impact on this situation is completely ridiculous and this is why people that have no comprehension of firearms should be passing bills on them. At that rate of fire, it would of melted for one... and two... this isn't the movies... it doesn't turn a gunshot into a whisper.

 

[ali032373]

sincere stupidity and conscientious ignorance are a fascinating matter. But I'll agree, I've spent too much time on the subject.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I've said it was his cronies i.e. his ATF, and I should of been clearer the first time. But here bub, for your troubles.

 

[pixletwin]

Snake is clearly anxious to be right. So just nod your head Ali and move on.

 

[xipotec]

As much as a suppressor may have dulled the sound of the shots, it's pretty clear the crowd didn't even know they were hearing gunshot until people started dropping around them. The first volley people are standing around wondering what's going on.
At that point he had hit many targets. As with most of these shootings the damage is mostly done in the first few moments, before anyone can really react.

God help the families of all those involved. You cannot rationalize or explain crazy.


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[Deeznutz6]

It's hysterical to hear people blame Obama for this....
He he even attempted to regulate anything to do with firearms people would have crapped in their hats and called foul.

And I am a CC holder who has guns.....BTW

Just curious, what do you need the guns for? Not a loaded question I honestly want to know.

As for the overall violence, agreed it should be tabled all the time not just when there is a mass shooting

As for your rights and amendments, Jesus christ, times change time to change with it. We no longer live in a world that can simply allow these types of weapons to be accessible.

I know Canada is a lot smaller scale, but we never have this type of violence. People barely blow anyone up, shoot anyone, drive over anyone. Why not? Maybe because we are to busy playing hockey, or because the violence has not been engraved in our life.