Things I Hate

[crows]

Rose McGowan, what a hypocrite.

why ?

 

[The Ween]

why ?

Adam Sandler is making a new movie and a part that she was asked to audition for wanted her to dress provocatively. Mind you she didn't have role, but she called Sandler and the movie sexist on Twitter and went into a rant about Hollywood being sexist. Many a time she has been out in public practically naked, but she calls a role requiring a push-up bra as sexist. Guess she forgot some of her movie roles as well.

The chick used too much blow when dating Manson.

 

[Mr. Green]

Must be something like this:

Rose McGowan Talks Getting Fired After Tweeting About Sexism

Tough being female actress.

 

[crows]

hard to pick a side here, Rose is being a huge hypocrite but Adam's movies are the toilet of Hollywood so...

 

[The Ween]

hard to pick a side here, Rose is being a huge hypocrite but Adam's movies are the toilet of Hollywood so...

It would be one thing if she had the role and he or whoever told her she HAD to wear "inappropriate" clothes, but she didn't even have the role. I don't care for most Sandler movies either, but that's beside the point.

 

[devilof76]

Unless the state flag is changed, then it has a right to fly there. And there has been votes to change one of the state flags (Miss?) but that was voted down. With all that's going on now, I'm sure there will be an even bigger fight to get them changed.

I'm just airing my personal interpretation of things. I don't think they have the right to vote it onto their flag. I'm not sure why the terms of surrender at Appomattox left it an option.

I think this is the biggest thing that I am getting at. This idea that some people think that they have the right to FORCE their moral beliefs on others is scary as hell to me; particularly when they start using the government to enforce their beliefs. Maybe it is because I have more libertarian leanings and think that people should live & let live (aka, gtfo of other people's lives), but I see so many news stories of people having their lives ruined simply because they offended someone or even expressed a differing opinion.

Some of the core principles that our Nation was founded on were personal liberties, state's rights, separation of powers, and NOT having a federal government that acts like a monarchy. I am not trying to be some conspiracy theorist, but our country is rapidly turning away from all of those principles.

It's been a longstanding assumption that the purpose of law is to enforce right and wrong. There was a brief window in history where this assumption was challenged and the legacy of that was the founding of this country (it didn't last). Insofar as people see government as a tool for enforcing moral standards, there will always be competition between opposing moral camps over who controls the whip. In the case of the Confederate flag, it came to war.

 

[Kibishii]

I'm just airing my personal interpretation of things. I don't think they have the right to vote it onto their flag. I'm not sure why the terms of surrender at Appomattox left it an option.

The 10th Amendment of the Constitution makes it clear that states have the right to make decisions not expressed in other Amendments. There isn't an amendment regarding state flags so the states should have that choice; if the voters in that state do not like it, get their state legislatures to change it. Political Correctness/Hypocrisy is such a big problem because society has become so reactionary when anyone gets offended because someone is ALWAYS offended. I love your example of who controls the whip because it is very true.

 

[devilof76]

The thing is (for starters) those states seceded from the union because they wanted to maintain slavery. The claim is made that they were exercising their prerogative as states free of federal powers (or that federal powers were exercising undue prerogatives), but the contention between the conflicting prerogatives was slavery. A fairly solid argument can be made that slavery was unconstitutional, but an impenetrable argument can be made for the wholesale violation of individual rights that slavery represents (and the protection of individual rights is the purpose of the Constitution in the first place). The southern states had no right to maintain the institution, period. When I see the Confederate flag, that is the 'heritage' I see being represented. I don't understand what else it could represent. That they were fighting for their 'way of life' doesn't hold water. The only aspect of their way of life being threatened was the ownership of slaves.

So that was the stand they took, the flag they raised was an enemy flag, and the enemy lost the war. It's incomprehensible to me that it would ever be permitted to fly over an American governmental facility after 1865. I realize they are state facilities, but they are states within a union. But, like I said, that's just me. Clearly, the federal government has no intentions of forcing their hand. In the final analysis, they shouldn't have to. Honor should be enough for them to see the error their forebears made and take it down. Nikki Haley did the right thing, and she did it under appropriate circumstances. In light of the horror perpetrated by that racist scumbag in Charleston, choosing to strike the symbol (which is as much a racist symbol as it is a symbol of southern heritage) from state grounds sent the message that the flag did not represent the state of South Carolina.

Anyone who thinks they can decide for private individuals what the flag means and whether or not they can fly is an authoritarian pig, and they're brazenly tipping the hand of the entire politically correct zeitgeist. They are a demographic that could stand to learn from the historical example that was made of the Confederacy: your way of life does not give you the right to the lives of anyone besides yourself, and if you decide to initiate force to cross that line, you invite the equivalent retaliatory force down upon yourself.

 

[Irvy]

 

[GeneralZodLives]

 

[Spartan Rex]

All of last weeks big news in one pict:

 

[fosing]

there's a fat black dude in that video....or was that a fat guy on make up?lolz

 

[Kibishii]

The thing is (for starters) those states seceded from the union because they wanted to maintain slavery. The claim is made that they were exercising their prerogative as states free of federal powers (or that federal powers were exercising undue prerogatives), but the contention between the conflicting prerogatives was slavery.

I grew up in SE Texas (Beaumont) and I was repeatedly taught that the Confederate flag represented state's rights to govern themselves; yes, the main dispute was over slavery, but even today there is this fundamental disagreement over how much power the federal government should have.
George Washington & Thomas Jefferson both owned slaves, the only difference between them and the Confederate States is that the Union won the Civil War.

I guess the insanity is spreading...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=193&v=BfjeF56Mt-g

 

[Solidus]

Not all blacks view the Confederate Flag as a race issue...

Black College Student Wins Fight to Display Confederate Flag in Dorm Room | Video | TheBlaze.com

 

[Solidus]

I grew up in SE Texas (Beaumont) and I was repeatedly taught that the Confederate flag represented state's rights to govern themselves; yes, the main dispute was over slavery, but even today there is this fundamental disagreement over how much power the federal government should have.
George Washington & Thomas Jefferson both owned slaves, the only difference between the and the Confederate States is that the Union won the Civil War.
I guess the insanity is spreading...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=193&v=BfjeF56Mt-g

Jefferson owned slaves, but at the same time he fought hard against slavery. He bought entire families just to keep them together, and I remember reading that his slaves were only doing servant work. It was an unfortunate part of American history, but there were men who were fighting against the times to change it.

And the Union wasn't good to blacks, either. After many of them traveled to the north, they couldn't find jobs, and were frequently discriminated against.

The South seceded because of economic pressures from the northern states. Slavery was never part of the larger issue of the war... at least, that's what I learned from my history class back in high school.

 

[devilof76]

Economic pressures due to half the country using feudal compulsory labor practices?

 

[toylion]

All of last weeks big news in one pict:
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You forgot Trumps hairpiece.

 

[devilof76]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=193&v=BfjeF56Mt-g

That's a thousand kinds of wrong, and ten thousand kinds of stupid. Solidus is right on. More people should read Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration.

 

[Solidus]

Economic pressures due to half the country using feudal compulsory labor practices?

Wasn't slavery in the decline prior to the Civil War? And if I recall correctly, General Lee even freed his slaves before the war started out.

Lincoln never cared about the plight of the colored man in the south, all he wanted was to keep the Union together. Blacks were also mistreated regardless of where they were. They were slaves in the south, and they came to the north only to face untold amounts of discrimination. You could argue for the nobility of one side over another, but there really isn't any point in doing it.

 

[devilof76]

Discrimination isn't slavery. It isn't even Jim Crow.

So what did the federal goverment demand of the South that they found so heinous that they had to secede? I am familiar with the state's rights argument, but I'm short on content.