Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

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Re: Venom Movie: Sony working on the Spin-Off

R rated is oveRRated.

Everyone wants Deadpool's sloppy seconds. Because it works in that, doesn't mean it will work in anything else. It's just a poor attempt by another studio to be edgy.
 
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Let 'em try tho. If Venom survived SM3 then he can survive anything.
 
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I loved the 90s Spidey storylines. They were more serious & more intense. The book clearly wanted to match up to the heavy stakes the X-Men were being given and MC did that in spades.

A symbiote-powered serial killer on a rampage through NYC is already a superb tagline for a CBM.

Raimi brought the 60s to life and Webb tackled Ultimate Spidey. I like the idea of SONY finding inspiration in the complex tales of the 90s and using the R-rating to push them further tonally and viscerally.
Spidey has had pretty serious stories going back into the '60s. The showdown in Amazing Spidey 121 with Green Goblin is hard to beat, then you had his running into the Punisher in the '70s, and the most effectively dark Spidey story we'll probably ever get--Kraven's Last Hunt--in the '80s. I collected Spidey comics in the '90s, but he fell victim to the same phenomenon that affected everything else back then, and ushered in the "dark and gritty" world of Image comics. Particularly McFarlane's take on Spidey, where he seemed to get more and more creative control. Dark for the sake of being dark never works. I just hated the style, the character designs, and the general approach to comics in that early-mid '90s period. Also, the SNES Carnage game was terrible. I do like my Carnage Minimate, though. :lol

McConaughey would be the perfect Kasady. Not sure he'd touch a CBM given that he rejected Gunn's Adam Warlock offer, but after seeing how commercial The Dark Tower looks, he might not be an impossible choice (specially with the freedom of the R-rating & someone like Hardy to star opposite of).
Honestly, I think Sony would be lucky to get Casper Van Dien to sign on until they can prove themselves. Look at what they did for Jaimie Foxx's career.
 
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People complaining about an R-rating need to watch an Oscar contender called Logan.

When your lead characters are both very much killers, having an R-rating is only natural.
 
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Spidey has had pretty serious stories going back into the '60s. The showdown in Amazing Spidey 121 with Green Goblin is hard to beat, then you had his running into the Punisher in the '70s, and the most effectively dark Spidey story we'll probably ever get--Kraven's Last Hunt--in the '80s. I collected Spidey comics in the '90s, but he fell victim to the same phenomenon that affected everything else back then, and ushered in the "dark and gritty" world of Image comics. Particularly McFarlane's take on Spidey, where he seemed to get more and more creative control. Dark for the sake of being dark never works. I just hated the style, the character designs, and the general approach to comics in that early-mid '90s period. Also, the SNES Carnage game was terrible. I do like my Carnage Minimate, though. :lol


Honestly, I think Sony would be lucky to get Casper Van Dien to sign on until they can prove themselves. Look at what they did for Jaimie Foxx's career.

would venom need a R rating? because i really really really dont think it gains anything from it.
 
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would venom need a R rating? because i really really really dont think it gains anything from it.

It doesn't unless they want to go with extremely graphic killing scenes. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2... How many Ravagers did Yondu kill in the scene with his arrow, 30 - 50?? Thats was pretty much a mass murdering scene... still PG13
 
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It doesn't unless they want to go with extremely graphic killing scenes. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2... How many Ravagers did Yondu kill in the scene with his arrow, 30 - 50?? Thats was pretty much a mass murdering scene... still PG13

thats what I was thinking,
Besides why would you want to have gory blood filled killing scenes in a super hero movie? specially something connected to Spiderman, even if Spiderman doesnt show it is still connected to it.
it makes no sense for the studio to have a movie that is borderline horror. venom is not Jason Voorhees....
 
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And whoever played Black Cat in ASM2. :monkey1
*had to Google* Good point. Sad when an actor has to take a big step down, artistically and creatively. Even sadder when they are starting from a low like Amazing Spider-Man 2. But there you go. On the bright side, she's hit the bottom of the barrel with that pitiful excuse for a Star Wars movie. Maybe the Wayans Bros. or Michael Bay will have pity on her and can start her down the road to a semblance of career respectability.

would venom need a R rating? because i really really really dont think it gains anything from it.
I guess it depends on the story. The character doesn't necessarily need it. Nor did Logan, though it worked in that film of course, same with Deadpool.
 
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People complaining about an R-rating need to watch an Oscar contender called Logan.

When your lead characters are both very much killers, having an R-rating is only natural.

wolverine was perfectly fine being pg 13 for more than a decade. he was perfectly okay. the movies weren't any less enjoyable or successful for the lack of gore and blood.
so no, I dont have to look at oscar contended called Logan because we have 6 movies where wolverine didn't have to show any gore in killing

And some people might say the best Wolverine movie ever made was The Wolverine which was NOT rated R and it didn't really needed to be rated R to tell a good story.
The Wolverine was able to be a success without being rated R. it didn't lack anything than a R rating would have given it to be better

the Fact that The Wolverine exists and was such a success with fans proves your point to be Wrong.

my favorite x men movies which are X men 2 the Last Stand and X-Men: Days of Future Past did not need a R rating to be great movies
these two movies ALSO prove your point to be wrong. X men 2 is considered by millions of people the best x men movie and there was nothing than a R rating could have provided to make it better.

you are simply, wrong on all accounts
 
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