Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

[SNIKT1950]

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wolverine was perfectly fine being pg 13 for more than a decade. he was perfectly okay. the movies weren't any less enjoyable or successful for the lack of gore and blood.
so no, I dont have to look at oscar contended called Logan because we have 6 movies where wolverine didn't have to show any gore in killing

And some people might say the best Wolverine movie ever made was The Wolverine which was NOT rated R and it didn't really needed to be rated R to tell a good story.
The Wolverine was able to be a success without being rated R. it didn't lack anything than a R rating would have given it to be better

the Fact that The Wolverine exists and was such a success with fans proves your point to be Wrong.

my favorite x men movies which are X men 2 the Last Stand and X-Men: Days of Future Past did not need a R rating to be great movies
these two movies ALSO prove your point to be wrong. X men 2 is considered by millions of people the best x men movie and there was nothing than a R rating could have provided to make it better.

you are simply, wrong on all accounts

Really? Let's explore that.

The Wolverine made $415 Million worldwide, with a PG-13 rating.

Logan made $615 Million worldwide with an R-rating, is universally acclaimed and up for Awards consideration, which is incredibly rare for a CBM (hasn't happened since TDK).

So what was it that you were saying about me being "wrong" about the freedom of the R-rating?

 

[Khev]

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While I do think that it was a bit eye-rolling that Logan had *so* many f-bombs (to the point where pretty much no other swear word was ever said by anyone) I agree that it was well served by the R-rated violence. It definitely wouldn't have had the same impact if all the slicing and dicing was done off camera.

 

[crows]

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Really? Let's explore that.

The Wolverine made $415 Million worldwide, with a PG-13 rating.

Logan made $615 Million worldwide with an R-rating, is universally acclaimed and up for Awards consideration, which is incredibly rare for a CBM (hasn't happened since TDK).

So what was it that you were saying about me being "wrong" about the freedom of the R-rating?

4 years passed between movies, did you account for inflation?

And Logan is not the first movie where Wolverine appears, like I said, we have had an ENTIRE DECADE of Wolverine in movies. we are used to him, We love him, he became a household Name.

Logan was the last time the actor was going to be the character, Do NOT forget that.
you would be dumb if you ignore this two facts.

you are saying the R Rating was the reason it was successful which is the craziest thing anyone can say. most people went to see it because he was retiring. do not play me for a fool boy. you cannot say that the R Rating was the reason this movie was successful.
Regardless of the quality of Logan (Because i am not debating quality) ALL the x men movies have done very well without R rating,
so you are wrong.
Besides the Marvel movies are BILLION dollar movies and NONE of them are Rated R, so you are wrong again because Marvel didnt need to be rated R to be successful

 

[Snake Plissken]

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https://variety.com/2017/film/in-contention/oscars-halfway-mark-deserving-contenders-1202473420/

Interesting how such a "boring" movie with such an "overrated and unnecessary" R-rating makes its way to Oscar contention.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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While I do think that it was a bit eye-rolling that Logan had *so* many f-bombs (to the point where pretty much no other swear word was ever said by anyone) I agree that it was well served by the R-rated violence. It definitely wouldn't have had the same impact if all the slicing and dicing was done off camera.

It'll be interesting to see what Fleischer does with the freedom of the R-rating.

 

[ironwez20]

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Lol well we all know spiderman won't get an r rated movie. Not happening. Spider-Man is a kids property more so than a comic property. He sells toys . You can get away with wolverine but Spider-Man is a different beast altogether. Plus what would be the point of an r rated spidey film? Spider-Man has had some dark stories but none that warrant an r rating. Maximum carnage had carnage killing innocent people.... many pg13 movies have done that.
Venom is only rated r to ride the hype of deadpool and Logan . Venom is not even an r rated villain. He's just scary. Carnage I could see

 

[EVILFACE]

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Really? Let's explore that.

The Wolverine made $415 Million worldwide, with a PG-13 rating.

Logan made $615 Million worldwide with an R-rating, is universally acclaimed and up for Awards consideration, which is incredibly rare for a CBM (hasn't happened since TDK).

So what was it that you were saying about me being "wrong" about the freedom of the R-rating?

Cuss words and some blood isn't going to cause the masses to explode their wallets.

The Wolverine had to weather the awful movie that proceeded it called X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Logan had the benefit of riding a much better movie in The Wolverine and retaining much of it's creative team.

But as always, you can't go by what a movie makes.

The Dark Knight completely curb stomped Batman Begins in box office monies, but is it really that much better of a movie?

BB also had to weather Batman and Robin.....

 

[RIDDICK]

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would venom need a R rating? because i really really really dont think it gains anything from it.

If the villain is indeed Carnage then yes, it should be R.

Every Yatjua knows...

 

[SNIKT1950]

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If the villain is indeed Carnage then yes, it should be R.

Same thing's happening over at WB with Reeves' The Batman where the rumored villain is also a serial killer.

It's awesome to see studios allowing these films to breathe when their subject matter can't handle content restrictions. I never expected us to get an R-rated Venom movie or an R-rated Batman detective movie or an R-rated Neo-Western starring Wolverine. Not even Deadpool. I mean ****, it took Jackman and Reynolds a decade to make those films happen and now we're seeing the aftermath with SONY & WB.

Good times.

 

[Khev]

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Good times.

Then why are you so mad and disgusted all the time?

 

[ironwez20]

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Cause the movie won't perform up to expectations. It has the guy who sunk three Spider-Man movies working on it. This film being rated r doesn't suddenly make it perfect. There are millions of bad rated r movies. And since when was it announced the new Batman film would be rated r?

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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Then why are you so mad and disgusted all the time?

Some people love being miserable all the time?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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Then why are you so mad and disgusted all the time?

Because reasons

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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I take no pleasure in saying this, but. . .I would probably prefer a Zach Snyder superhero movie over Maximum ****ing Carnage. Damn, do I hate the 1990s.

There's no way it can be done remotely decent

 

[SNIKT1950]

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There's no way it can be done remotely decent

Wrong.

 

[ironwez20]

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Wrong.

Please enlighten us without mentioning tom hardy , the writing or an r rating.Do you have a time machine? Cause if so great Scott!

 

[crows]

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Wrong.

You are the one that is wrong,
A good director doesnt need the R rating to make a movie good, look at the dark knight and the joker, the joker is one of the darkest superheroes ever put on film in the dark knight and Nolan was able to masterfully create an incredible dark and scary villain without the need for any gore.
The joker was incredibly scary and intimidating and creepy and the movie worked because the director made it work.

 

[YoNoSe]

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Musta been a slow Thursday night for someone.

That's the second time you had time to monitor and comment on my identical post about it. Musta been a slow 12 years, 46127.

 

[azurepred]

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Also, the SNES Carnage game was terrible. I do like my Carnage Minimate, though.


Honestly, I think Sony would be lucky to get Casper Van Dien to sign on until they can prove themselves. Look at what they did for Jaimie Foxx's career.

I loved that game, but was pretty hard from what I recall because I know I never made it to the end.

 

[EVILFACE]

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That's the second time you had time to monitor and comment on my identical post about it. Musta been a slow 12 years, 46127.

627 posts whining about what other people like.