Toy Hunter starts Sunday night

[TheObsoleteMan]

Of course it was staged, all those shows are scripted to some degree.

 

[Michael Crawford]

I was pretty embarressed as a collector by the guy who came to the booth and looked at the RF Fett and actually started jumping. Ugh.

Funny thing about the booth - I didn't get the whole 'wow' factor discussion either. I've been to a lot of cons, and I've never seen any dealer booth that looked all that much different from every other dealer booth. Same here. I think dealers would do themselves more of a service if they actually tried to design the booth as a marketing tool (the companies certainly do), but I also assume that the shows place a ton of restrictions on them, ending up with the cookie cutter look.

 

[The Mike]

I would wager that all of these kind of shows are scripted almost to the letter not just a small degree but this one really felt staged whereas on some of the other shows it's not as blantant, is the point I was making.

 

[The Mike]

I was pretty embarrassed as a collector by the guy who came to the booth and looked at the RF Fett and actually started jumping. Ugh.

That was cringeworthy. My wife turned to me during the show and said "I'm glad you're not one of those kinds of nerds." As collectors there is already so much stigma, I would have appreciated it if they kept the fanboy gushings out of it but it is what it is.

 

[teemu]

I was pretty embarressed as a collector by the guy who came to the booth and looked at the RF Fett and actually started jumping. Ugh.

Funny thing about the booth - I didn't get the whole 'wow' factor discussion either. I've been to a lot of cons, and I've never seen any dealer booth that looked all that much different from every other dealer booth. Same here. I think dealers would do themselves more of a service if they actually tried to design the booth as a marketing tool (the companies certainly do), but I also assume that the shows place a ton of restrictions on them, ending up with the cookie cutter look.

I find it amazing how with 10 minutes left till the show ends,some 'right buyer' with $17,000 in his pocket buys a stupid,unpainted rocket boba fett with no proof if it being real(no paperwork,no AFA grading etc)...lol yeah right

 

[ZaCHw117]

Of course it was staged, all those shows are scripted to some degree.

I love Storage Wars, because it seems less staged. Yeah, they decide where to go, but I don't think they know what is in the sheds at all when they bid. Which is pretty cool.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

I find it amazing how with 10 minutes left till the show ends,some 'right buyer' with $17,000 in his pocket buys a stupid,unpainted rocket boba fett with no proof if it being real(no paperwork,no AFA grading etc)...lol yeah right

its called, the magic of editing.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I find it amazing how with 10 minutes left till the show ends,some 'right buyer' with $17,000 in his pocket buys a stupid,unpainted rocket boba fett with no proof if it being real(no paperwork,no AFA grading etc)...lol yeah right

If that wasn't scripted, it was definitely edited in to look like it was a "Last minute OMG" moment.

Edit: Cola Kidd beat me to it!

 

[denger4000]

I love Storage Wars, because it seems less staged. Yeah, they decide where to go, but I don't think they know what is in the sheds at all when they bid. Which is pretty cool.

Really? I feel storage wars is the most scripted. American Pickers I believe they are at least actually buying people's things (unless someone wants to correct me) but think about this on Storage Wars, the same 4 people win EVERY auction.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Really? I feel storage wars is the most scripted. American Pickers I believe they are at least actually buying people's things (unless someone wants to correct me) but think about this on Storage Wars, the same 4 people win EVERY auction.

They only show the ones that they win, and fight over and lose. I think they are suppose to be "the main characters". Every TV show is scripted, from Jersey Shore to I shouldn't be alive.

 

[Nitro]

I love Storage Wars, because it seems less staged. Yeah, they decide where to go, but I don't think they know what is in the sheds at all when they bid. Which is pretty cool.

I love Storage Wars too...but I cannot stand Dave Hester. The guy is an obnoxious tool. I laugh everytime he goes through a unit and prices each and every single item like they are guaranteed to sell. It's like "Yeah Dave. That dirty bed bug infested mattress will sell for a couple hundred for sure."

 

[thenammagazine]

No Nam - you're getting yourself confused. I hear a little Ginko is good for that

He didn't buy a Mask set for $10 - that was the Corgi cars. He tried to get the guy to sell him three Mask sets for $100 which included the slingshot - that would have been a good deal for him, considering how much the slingshot goes for. The guy didn't go for it, so he offered him $75 for the other two, and later tried to get the slingshot for $100 by itself, and then I'm pretty sure he offered $150.

The corgi diecast was where he bought one for $10 - and as far as I'm concerned, overpaid.

Then again, maybe I'm the one that needs the Ginko...but that's what I recall.

As to going for double on ebay - that's pretty much the point. It's normal for any dealer to expect to mark something up double, including your local Target. That's the general starting point.

I'm surprised you aren't using the Fett as more of your example - he started out only offering the guy $5k, assuming he'd get $10k, but ended up selling it for $17k. Of course, since at that point it was on commission it was all good for the original seller, but I can see people thinking the original $5k was out of line. The problem with big ticket items like the RF Fett - and they talk about this on Pawn Stars all the time - you have to find the right buyer. There's only a few people able to pay that kind of price, and if a dealer invests several thousand dollars in a single item, they can't afford to have it stay around the shop for months and months. Inventory turnover is critical for them, so items like the RF Fett can make for good marketing, but not necessarily great business. I think that's why he seemed to step back to the commission idea so fast for both that and the Bubbler.

As to being a set up - of course, like I said, even American Pickers is a complete set up. If you're watching it for great drama, I'd suggest sticking with Walking Dead

I'd assume that the RF Buyer was contacted in advance, and he said he'd buy it right up front. All that 'drama' over time running out was probably just for our amusement.

I do know Jason - he's an advertiser at the site, and I've talked with him on the phone a few times. While I can understand people finding him annoying in general (we all find different types annoying), I didn't see him do anything that wasn't pretty much standard capitalism. I'm always surprised by the hate collectors seem to have toward legitimate dealers, as though somehow they are evil by the very nature of trying to make a living. When it comes to scalping, I get it - when it comes to dealers in vintage toys, I don't.

I'm leaving the Fett and that Thundercats Bubbler thingy alone because I actually agree with the outcome of that. Consignment is a whole different story and the profit split is about the same as say ebaY or an auction house. Seemed a lot more "legit" than shadily, and intentionally lowballing toy engineers, who admitted they haven't the slightest clue what they're worth, with ridiculously inaccurate resale prices. This is after, I may add, him telling them and I quote, "I don't wanna rip you off." If he'd left that last little detail out, it would mean a world of difference. But he looked those guys in the eyes and lied to them.

Now I understand the whole concept of paying for gas and ____ to get to them, but that's BS. That's like some idiot on ebay charging you $15+ for him driving his package to the post office. He's the one that wants those goodies for the "WOW factor at New York ComicCon," it shouldn't be used as guilt to get the buyers to agree to lowball offers. And if you got anything but that from his facial expressions during the bartering, you're the one who watched a different show.

As for the MASK, I thought there were two bigger boxed vehicles, the little one, and the Switchblade.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I love Storage Wars too...but I cannot stand Dave Hester. The guy is an obnoxious tool. I laugh everytime he goes through a unit and prices each and every single item like they are guaranteed to sell. It's like "Yeah Dave. That dirty bed bug infested mattress will sell for a couple hundred for sure."

I absolutely hate Dave, he is the true definition of a *********.

 

[barryo]

i absolutely hate dave, he is the true definition of a *********.

YYYYYEP !!!




arguing on a board about toys on a tv show > arguing on a board about toys > arguing on a board > arguing

 

[Nitro]

Really? I feel storage wars is the most scripted. American Pickers I believe they are at least actually buying people's things (unless someone wants to correct me) but think about this on Storage Wars, the same 4 people win EVERY auction.

Thing that bothers me about American Pickers is that you have 2 greedy dolts that take advantage of the elderly. They pretend that they are best friends/family only to pry items from these people (that have no intention on selling) in order to make a profit for their business. These guys know how much items are worth...yet they lowball these people everytime. If they don't get their way, they use a "bulk" approach where they tie 2 or more items together to drive down the price for the item that they absolutely want.

 

[denger4000]

They only show the ones that they win, and fight over and lose. I think they are suppose to be "the main characters". Every TV show is scripted, from Jersey Shore to I shouldn't be alive.

Honestly I think just watching these kind of shows it's best not to think about whats fake or real, just watch it and enjoy it, and you don't enjoy it don't watch it.

 

[Nitro]

YYYYYEP !!!

Ugh...I hate when he does that.

 

[BuffyGirl]

I think all of us freaks here should take a video camera around our place, show off our collections, Jenn can edit the thing and we can make our own damn show. At least it would be enjoyable. Because let's face it, we're awesome. Well, most of us.

 

[316what]

My biggest problem with the show was that he tried too much to act like Joe Maddalena from Hollywood Treasure.

 

[Michael Crawford]

I think all of us freaks here should take a video camera around our place, show off our collections, Jenn can edit the thing and we can make our own damn show. At least it would be enjoyable. Because let's face it, we're awesome. Well, most of us.

Hey, don't laugh - I was in a group of collectors about 15 years ago that did just that. There was a dozen or so of us hardcorers from the days of rec.toys.misc that created a tape of the overall collections. It was pretty interesting to see!