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i liked the interviews with the ex-kenner employees but would have liked to seen more on them & what they had, especially tom from tomarts.
and as far as his "i have to make 20,000 at comic con"................:monkey4
why do these shows always seem to have some sort of critical deadline or goal to meet?................oh i only made 17,000 not 20,000..............:monkey2

The goal to meet ($20K in this case) comes from the cost of the booth, badges, transportation costs, employee costs, etc. Every vendor at every convention has a target goal to meet to know if the convention was successful or not.
 
Watched the show tonight - some of you must have watched a completely different show from the comments.

First, when was he 'scalping' anything? Everything you saw him dealing in on the show was older, bought from collectors.

When was he 'lowballing' or lying? He isn't a charity - he has to make a profit. Every time he told them what he thought he'd be able to get for it and what he could offer, usually only about a 35% mark up, and usually that was what he got at the show. That's a hell of a lot less than what we see on shows like American Pickers or Pawn Stars. Do you think this guy or any other vintage toy dealer is running a charity? I actually thought he made some really bad buys on a couple items (those corgi batmobiles for example), and other stuff was in line with what I've seen, especially the Six Million Dollar Man stuff. And some of that stuff, like the Batman Returns figures, couldn't bring in $5 each. Green card on the back? I collect prototypes, test shots, etc. and I love Batman - and I wouldn't give you $20 for it.

The only time I saw he get somewhat more for a figure than he told the person he was buying it from was the Fett - and that was on commision, so the extra cash helps the seller!

Now, whether or not he's annoying - well, I didn't find him any more so than the guys on either of the aforementioned shows, but I can certainly understand why someone would. They clearly went with a straight American Pickers For Toys show in terms of the format of the first episode, and I'd actually rather see something where they traveled around showing us people's collections, interviewing designers about their time with lines and companies, visiting current companies, showing inside Toy Fair and the spring Licensing Expo, etc. My favorite part was the visit to Tomarts, but I would love it if he was actually interviewing them, asking them what they are planning to do with their organization in a non-print world. But hey, that's me.
 
Watched the show tonight - some of you must have watched a completely different show from the comments.

First, when was he 'scalping' anything? Everything you saw him dealing in on the show was older, bought from collectors.

When was he 'lowballing' or lying? He isn't a charity - he has to make a profit. Every time he told them what he thought he'd be able to get for it and what he could offer, usually only about a 35% mark up, and usually that was what he got at the show. That's a hell of a lot less than what we see on shows like American Pickers or Pawn Stars. Do you think this guy or any other vintage toy dealer is running a charity? I actually thought he made some really bad buys on a couple items (those corgi batmobiles for example), and other stuff was in line with what I've seen, especially the Six Million Dollar Man stuff. And some of that stuff, like the Batman Returns figures, couldn't bring in $5 each. Green card on the back? I collect prototypes, test shots, etc. and I love Batman - and I wouldn't give you $20 for it.

The only time I saw he get somewhat more for a figure than he told the person he was buying it from was the Fett - and that was on commision, so the extra cash helps the seller!

Now, whether or not he's annoying - well, I didn't find him any more so than the guys on either of the aforementioned shows, but I can certainly understand why someone would. They clearly went with a straight American Pickers For Toys show in terms of the format of the first episode, and I'd actually rather see something where they traveled around showing us people's collections, interviewing designers about their time with lines and companies, visiting current companies, showing inside Toy Fair and the spring Licensing Expo, etc. My favorite part was the visit to Tomarts, but I would love it if he was actually interviewing them, asking them what they are planning to do with their organization in a non-print world. But hey, that's me.

Rather than argue this, I'll just show you:
https://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_nk...sct=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

Now, either the idiot is clueless about his toy knowledge (I refer back to the MASK being the precursor of Transformers remark) and he doesn't have a clue what things cost on the secondary market - which, given he has a show based on selling toys is a bit ironic, OR he intentionally undervalued the toys to get a good price from these unknowing toy engineers/designers and maximize profits for selling. The fact that more people here think he's a ****** because if it shows how the show portrayed him than not should add weight to this.
 
I had a hard time buying into the legitimacy of the transactions. A long time comic store owner with a RF Boba Fett and he doesn't know what its worth and hasn't already tried to put it up for auction? REALLY? He needs this guy to sell it for him? I highly doubt it.

I do find it pretty lame that relatively young former TOY INDUSTRY people don't know that they can use ebay to sell the stuff for more than what he's offering.

I like American Pickers but some of the show is a set up as well. But unlike American Pickers where maybe selling a vintage bicycle or gasoline pump might be a little more difficult, these are toys in small packages that have a history of trading and selling. You don't need middle men like this to sell MIMB Mask toys.

I also think its unlikely this guy would make the jaunt to some guy's home and leave with a measely 3 items totalling $100. If that guy held onto those items for 20 years that he put his work into and then sold them for $100, I feel sorry for him.
 
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That's what that stuff is going for - not sure what point Nam is trying to make, since the ebay auctions he linked to proves the guy was right about the value of the boxed MASK vehicles. The ebay listings show them going for $45 - $75 in the box, some not even selling for $20. The only one to go high is the one the guy didn't want to let go of - the Slingshot - which sold for $200 on ebay, and the big truck which I didn't see on the show. The guy did want that one the most and offered him $100 for it alone - maybe even $150 before he was finished, seems like it but I wasn't paying quite that much attention.

As to whether or not you need a middle man - that depends on whether you want the hassle of selling. Getting the right price on ebay is a hit or miss proposition - I've gotten plenty of great deals off ebay over the years. If it was the end all solution to selling, then the guys on Auction Hunters would be out of business too.
 
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What I don't understand is did it really take a "professional toy hunter" to come to the exKenner employees house to help sell $200 worth of toys for $100. If the guy was fine getting $100 for those items (which IMO is a sad amount to sell off part of your personal history that took up about 4 cubic feet of an attic) then why didn't he just sell it for that much on ebay? If its "value" is $200 surely they would have sold for $100 on ebay Buy It Now. It took a guy with a camera crew to come down and talk you into selling it? And on top of it all they couldn't have the stuff prepared and ready for viewing? They had to show us the guy digging through the attic?

Just too set up. At least American Pickers seems half legit compared to this.
 
That's what that stuff is going for - not sure what point Nam is trying to make, since the ebay auctions he linked to proves the guy was right about the value of the boxed MASK vehicles. The ebay listings show them going for $45 - $75 in the box, some not even selling for $20. The only one to go high is the one the guy didn't want to let go of - the Slingshot - which sold for $200 on ebay, and the big truck which I didn't see on the show. The guy did want that one the most and offered him $100 for it alone - maybe even $150 before he was finished, seems like it but I wasn't paying quite that much attention.

As to whether or not you need a middle man - that depends on whether you want the hassle of selling. Getting the right price on ebay is a hit or miss proposition - I've gotten plenty of great deals off ebay over the years. If it was the end all solution to selling, then the guys on Auction Hunters would be out of business too.

Apparently Nam thinks this guy should go to their houses, pull up ebay for them and show them how much this stuff goes for on the secondary market so he can make as little profit as possible. :dunno
 
My brother-in-law was involved in the process of American Pickers. Ain't nothing about it NOT set up. They put out a call to the area well in advance for people that might have the type of stuff they are looking for, you send in photos of what you have and where they are, and then the select way in advance the places they'll come to look.

Thank God he didn't get selected - last thing I wanted was the world to see that side of the family. *shudder*

Like I said, I'd much prefer something other than this style to the show, with more of an interview/history/collection approach. I'm just not sure with the current popularity of the Pickers type show that you could get it picked up.
 
That's what that stuff is going for - not sure what point Nam is trying to make, since the ebay auctions he linked to proves the guy was right about the value of the boxed MASK vehicles. The ebay listings show them going for $45 - $75 in the box, some not even selling for $20. The only one to go high is the one the guy didn't want to let go of - the Slingshot - which sold for $200 on ebay, and the big truck which I didn't see on the show. The guy did want that one the most and offered him $100 for it alone - maybe even $150 before he was finished, seems like it but I wasn't paying quite that much attention.

As to whether or not you need a middle man - that depends on whether you want the hassle of selling. Getting the right price on ebay is a hit or miss proposition - I've gotten plenty of great deals off ebay over the years. If it was the end all solution to selling, then the guys on Auction Hunters would be out of business too.

The completed auctions on the MASK items are double and triple what he quoted the guy.
 
Apparently Nam thinks this guy should go to their houses, pull up ebay for them and show them how much this stuff goes for on the secondary market so he can make as little profit as possible. :dunno

Here's a question, how would the "Toy Hunter" know where to go to find vintage boxed items in people's attics? Does he just show up to random houses in Cincinatti? :lol

Assuming this is not a 100% set up to begin with, these people are educated enough in the hobby to find this guy.

Surely they would know how to sell their stuff on ebay.

I just can't believe the premise. People don't just have mint vintage toys sitting around and not know how to sell them.
 
Again, not sure what show you were watching Nam - he paid the guy $75 for two MASK vehicles, tried to pay him $150 (as I recall that was his final offer) on the Slingshot buy itself. The completed auctions you listed show three going for $20, one for $26, one for $31, one for $85, and one for $95. He paid the guy $75 for two similar vehicles - seems pretty accurate.

The only big ticket items are the slingshot at $200, and he ended up offering a lot as well, and a couple that are huge sets - the Boulder truck ($365) and that playset that went for $175. They didn't show the guy having either of those.
 
Again, not sure what show you were watching Nam - he paid the guy $75 for two MASK vehicles, tried to pay him $150 (as I recall that was his final offer) on the Slingshot buy itself. The completed auctions you listed show three going for $20, one for $26, one for $31, one for $85, and one for $95. He paid the guy $75 for two similar vehicles - seems pretty accurate.

The only big ticket items are the slingshot at $200, and he ended up offering a lot as well, and a couple that are huge sets - the Boulder truck ($365) and that playset that went for $175. They didn't show the guy having either of those.

No, the smaller ones you stated going for $20 and $35 are equivalent to the one he paid the dude $10 for. The bigger sets he got are comparable to the ones going for $75 and $100, more than double the $75 he paid for both of the bigger ones.
 
Does anyone have a link Sunday's episode of Toy Hunters online?

I forgot to record it!
 
I have to completely agree with Nam

Those unopened MIB Mask pieces go for $$$ especially if they are brand new, unopened and factory sealed...

Alot of those pieces on that Ebay link are previously opened toys with the box (getting a mint in box title??) so oviously they might command a little less of a price..

what is funny,the comic dealer who had the Rocket fett, was told by ****** it was worth $10,000,then precedes to try and sell it for $20,000...wouldn't take $15,000 for it...thats definitely douchery and Greed.Of course I still think that was a staged buy,I didn't see no money exchange :)
 
No, the smaller ones you stated going for $20 and $35 are equivalent to the one he paid the dude $10 for. The bigger sets he got are comparable to the ones going for $75 and $100, more than double the $75 he paid for both of the bigger ones.

No Nam - you're getting yourself confused. I hear a little Ginko is good for that :D

He didn't buy a Mask set for $10 - that was the Corgi cars. He tried to get the guy to sell him three Mask sets for $100 which included the slingshot - that would have been a good deal for him, considering how much the slingshot goes for. The guy didn't go for it, so he offered him $75 for the other two, and later tried to get the slingshot for $100 by itself, and then I'm pretty sure he offered $150.

The corgi diecast was where he bought one for $10 - and as far as I'm concerned, overpaid.

Then again, maybe I'm the one that needs the Ginko...but that's what I recall.

As to going for double on ebay - that's pretty much the point. It's normal for any dealer to expect to mark something up double, including your local Target. That's the general starting point.

I'm surprised you aren't using the Fett as more of your example - he started out only offering the guy $5k, assuming he'd get $10k, but ended up selling it for $17k. Of course, since at that point it was on commission it was all good for the original seller, but I can see people thinking the original $5k was out of line. The problem with big ticket items like the RF Fett - and they talk about this on Pawn Stars all the time - you have to find the right buyer. There's only a few people able to pay that kind of price, and if a dealer invests several thousand dollars in a single item, they can't afford to have it stay around the shop for months and months. Inventory turnover is critical for them, so items like the RF Fett can make for good marketing, but not necessarily great business. I think that's why he seemed to step back to the commission idea so fast for both that and the Bubbler.

As to being a set up - of course, like I said, even American Pickers is a complete set up. If you're watching it for great drama, I'd suggest sticking with Walking Dead :D

I'd assume that the RF Buyer was contacted in advance, and he said he'd buy it right up front. All that 'drama' over time running out was probably just for our amusement.

I do know Jason - he's an advertiser at the site, and I've talked with him on the phone a few times. While I can understand people finding him annoying in general (we all find different types annoying), I didn't see him do anything that wasn't pretty much standard capitalism. I'm always surprised by the hate collectors seem to have toward legitimate dealers, as though somehow they are evil by the very nature of trying to make a living. When it comes to scalping, I get it - when it comes to dealers in vintage toys, I don't.
 
The whole episode felt staged. I figured that was done for production's sake, even him digging through boxes (at one point he mentioned boxes were sealed but he seemed to simply open them implying that they were cut open off camera) even talking to some of the owners it felt as if they were trying to remember a script. The worst part was him in the comic shop over the Star Wars stuff, giddily gushing over each "find" which to me felt like he was trying to get the audience excited for what he was looking for instead of him actually being excited about it, but lke I said I figure that was part of the "show".

One thing I thought was funny was that every time he could he mentioned "wow" factor at his booth over and over, yet they spent very little time showing anyone being wow'd by the booth itself. A couple of guys gushing about the Fett, one guy happy about the Thundercats piece (which was an amazing build-up by him to it's collectibility that fell flat) but not a whole lot of awe considering how much he was building it up for.

Had the guy played it straight and simply treated it like a business kind of proposition I think it would have flown better than him jumping around and giggling every time the camera panned over to him. :dunno
 
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