UFC, etc.

[daikkenaurora]

Respect right there! You know Brock is good and all but come on he's only had 5 fights and those were against chumps sorry to say. Frank Mir, old ass Randy Couture and Heath Herring. None of those fighters are the creme de la creme. These guys are decent at best. Fedor has won 32 fights and only about 7 were won by decision the rest he finished. So technically right now he is the top HW. I'm not a Fedor fanatic or anything I just call it the way I see it. Now if Brock get's a record even close to that then I think it's safe to start saying he's "somebody".

Fedor hasnt fought the "Creme de la Creme" in a while but I dont see how Brock can talk so much trash. Its just his WWE attitude. ewww

 

[915stag51]

Fedor Vs. Werdum
Scott Smith Vs. Cung Le
Cris Cyborg Vs. Jan Finney
Josh Thomson Vs. Pat Healy

Ron Keslar Vs. TBA
Brett Bergmark Vs. Vagner Rocha
Yancy Medeiros Vs Valdir Araujo
Bobby Stack Vs. Derrick Burnsend

Daaaam, should be a good night tonight....Thanks man.

 

[kobayashi93]

Jan Finney looks pretty beastly herself as far a physic goes. Her face doesn't look like it's been run over by a truck though.

Some of the odds on Cyborg are ridiculous. I don't disagree...

 

[azurepred]

No doubt Anderson's stand up would destroy GSP. GSP wouldn't take Anderson down half as easy as other fighters. I honestly don't think Anderson would even let him get close enough to take him down. My prediction for this fight if it ever happens Anderson KO's GSP with a knee countering the takedown.

I think you underestimate GSP's stand up though. Hes not the best, but he is better in the stand up more than most of his oppenents. If you watch the last time he fought Penn, he beat BJ standing up, which allowed him to get the take downs. I dont find GSP boring at all cause he finished a lot of guys on the ground as well. Hes not exciting like Jones for instance, but he has some of the best G&P in the game. I think GSP could take down ANYBODY he goes against, Silva included, but that doesnt mean he could beat Silva; we will never know until it happens.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Jan Finney looks pretty beastly herself as far a physic goes. Her face doesn't look like it's been run over by a truck though.

Some of the odds on Cyborg are ridiculous. I don't disagree...

what are the odds of Jan winning?

 

[Flipsk8emerica]

I think you underestimate GSP's stand up though. Hes not the best, but he is better in the stand up more than most of his oppenents. If you watch the last time he fought Penn, he beat BJ standing up, which allowed him to get the take downs. I dont find GSP boring at all cause he finished a lot of guys on the ground as well. Hes not exciting like Jones for instance, but he has some of the best G&P in the game. I think GSP could take down ANYBODY he goes against, Silva included, but that doesnt mean he could beat Silva; we will never know until it happens.

Hopfully if these 2 keep winning we'll see this superfight! It is something to look forward to. On another note after this fight I'd like to see Silva drop the belt and move up to LHW full time. Shogun vs. Silva or even Machida vs. Silva would be boss!

 

[Flipsk8emerica]

So guys does Evans stand a chance against Rua? I for one don't think so. What are your thoughts?

 

[Devil_666]

You know Brock is good and all but come on he's only had 5 fights and those were against chumps sorry to say.

Guess you haven't looked up Fedor's first 5 fights.

Frank Mir, old ass Randy Couture and Heath Herring. None of those fighters are the creme de la creme. These guys are decent at best.

Frank Mir II: He was the #2 HW and had just KTFO Big Nog for the UFC Interim HW Title.

That "Old ass Randy Couture" was the #3 HW in the world + the UFC HW Champion. I love how people quickly forget. He just raped Tim Sylvia for the title and then destroyed Gonzaga. Before his fight with Brock it was HIM that everyone wanted to see fight Fedor.

Heath Herring was the favorite going into that fight.

Fedor has won 32 fights and only about 7 were won by decision the rest he finished.

And what do you know, his biggest career wins all went to decision. The biggest names on his record, all decisions. In other words, he destroys cans. Awesome.

I'm not a Fedor fanatic or anything I just call it the way I see it.

Uh huh. He fights a lot of cans.

 

[Flipsk8emerica]

Frank Mir is a can himself. Who has he fought that's bad ass besides Big Nog and Lesnar.
Heath Herring ain't ____. He's been beat by every great fighter they've put him against and lost to quite a few nobodys.

 

[NASEDO]

Guess you haven't looked up Fedor's first 5 fights.



Frank Mir II: He was the #2 HW and had just KTFO Big Nog for the UFC Interim HW Title.

That "Old ass Randy Couture" was the #3 HW in the world + the UFC HW Champion. I love how people quickly forget. He just raped Tim Sylvia for the title and then destroyed Gonzaga. Before his fight with Brock it was HIM that everyone wanted to see fight Fedor.

Heath Herring was the favorite going into that fight.



And what do you know, his biggest career wins all went to decision. The biggest names on his record, all decisions. In other words, he destroys cans. Awesome.




Uh huh. He fights a lot of cans.

You just hate Fedor, he gets under your skin like Dana White. You think Lesnar at 4-1 is at Fedor's level. Lesnar's only has size. He's skill/technique hasn't matured to an A-Level fighter. Fedor was also an underdog in alot of his early fights, even against NOG. He didn't come in like Lesnar and called "GOD". Everyone thinks Lesnar is great but he did nothing, just the UFC's good marketing. But in a few years Lesnar will be a bum.

Fedor recently said he will talk with the UFC after his next 2 fights. But after the UFC stopping has TapouT Shirt, I would never fight there if I were Fedor.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Hopfully if these 2 keep winning we'll see this superfight! It is something to look forward to. On another note after this fight I'd like to see Silva drop the belt and move up to LHW full time. Shogun vs. Silva or even Machida vs. Silva would be boss!

Why drop the belt? I say if Silva beats Chael, wins another fight at 205 against a high ranked or decent fighter, and Shogun beats rashad (which I think he will), we should see Silva vs Rua for the LHW belt. it would be the first time in UFC history that someone held 2 belts at the same time (I think).

So guys does Evans stand a chance against Rua? I for one don't think so. What are your thoughts?

Rashad's best bet is taking it to the ground. Rua has subbed before but he's more of a striker. Rashad's chin doesnt seem to be the best at taking hits. lol

 

[kobayashi93]

what are the odds of Jan winning?

Like -1600 for Cyborg, +800 for Jan.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Like -1600 for Cyborg, +800 for Jan.

WOAH

 

[kobayashi93]

That's about average...

Fedor is about -700 Wedum at +400

 

[Devil_666]

Frank Mir is a can himself. Who has he fought that's bad ass besides Big Nog and Lesnar. Heath Herring ain't ____. He's been beat by every great fighter they've put him against and lost to quite a few nobodys.

See this is the part that cracks me up. I see A LOT of Fedor fans doing this without even realizing what they're doing.

You do understand when you make comments like that you're actually discrediting Fedor, right?



Hmmm.. Frank Mir. He beat Tim Sylvia for the UFC HW Title didn't he? The same Tim Sylvia Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

Heath Herring. Hmmm.. the same Heath Herring that Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

So you consider Martin Lazarov, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, Levon Lagvilava, Hiroya Takada, Kerry Schall, Bobby Hoffman, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Lee Hasdell, Chris Haseman, Egidijus Valavicius, Yuji Nagata, Zulu and Choi credible!?

How about Lindland who Fedor outweighed by 17 and 1/2 lbs?

Or Sobral and Arona who Fedor also outweighed?

Or Maybe Schilt? Who was 1-0 in K-1 at the time (just to avoid any fubars bring up his K-1 accomplishments that came 3 years AFTER the Fedor fight).

Or Mark Coleman who was 39 yrs old for their first fight and 41 yrs. old for the second fight?

Or maybe Kevin Randleman or Gary Goodridge?

The fact is his record/resume is only impressive to his nut huggers. Early in his career he fought guys with losing records, smaller guys and cans. And that's been his pattern throughout his entire career. For every credible guy he's fought he's also fought 2 cans.

You just hate Fedor

Nah.. I just love torturing his delusional, pathetic fans that make him out to be something that he's not.

 

[daikkenaurora]

See this is the part that cracks me up. I see A LOT of Fedor fans doing this without even realizing what they're doing.

You do understand when you make comments like that you're actually discrediting Fedor, right?



Hmmm.. Frank Mir. He beat Tim Sylvia for the UFC HW Title didn't he? The same Tim Sylvia Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

Heath Herring. Hmmm.. the same Heath Herring that Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

So you consider Martin Lazarov, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, Levon Lagvilava, Hiroya Takada, Kerry Schall, Bobby Hoffman, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Lee Hasdell, Chris Haseman, Egidijus Valavicius, Yuji Nagata, Zulu and Choi credible!?

How about Lindland who Fedor outweighed by 17 and 1/2 lbs?

Or Sobral and Arona who Fedor also outweighed?

Or Maybe Schilt? Who was 1-0 in K-1 at the time (just to avoid any fubars bring up his K-1 accomplishments that came 3 years AFTER the Fedor fight).

Or Mark Coleman who was 39 yrs old for their first fight and 41 yrs. old for the second fight?

Or maybe Kevin Randleman or Gary Goodridge?

The fact is his record/resume is only impressive to his nut huggers. Early in his career he fought guys with losing records, smaller guys and cans. And that's been his pattern throughout his entire career. For every credible guy he's fought he's also fought 2 cans.



Nah.. I just love torturing his delusional, pathetic fans that make him out to be something that he's not.

You should get an award for such a great post.

 

[NASEDO]

See this is the part that cracks me up. I see A LOT of Fedor fans doing this without even realizing what they're doing.

You do understand when you make comments like that you're actually discrediting Fedor, right?



Hmmm.. Frank Mir. He beat Tim Sylvia for the UFC HW Title didn't he? The same Tim Sylvia Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

Heath Herring. Hmmm.. the same Heath Herring that Fedor fans use as a "credible" win for Fedor, right? Guess not, according to you.

So you consider Martin Lazarov, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, Levon Lagvilava, Hiroya Takada, Kerry Schall, Bobby Hoffman, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Lee Hasdell, Chris Haseman, Egidijus Valavicius, Yuji Nagata, Zulu and Choi credible!?

How about Lindland who Fedor outweighed by 17 and 1/2 lbs?

Or Sobral and Arona who Fedor also outweighed?

Or Maybe Schilt? Who was 1-0 in K-1 at the time (just to avoid any fubars bring up his K-1 accomplishments that came 3 years AFTER the Fedor fight).

Or Mark Coleman who was 39 yrs old for their first fight and 41 yrs. old for the second fight?

Or maybe Kevin Randleman or Gary Goodridge?

The fact is his record/resume is only impressive to his nut huggers. Early in his career he fought guys with losing records, smaller guys and cans. And that's been his pattern throughout his entire career. For every credible guy he's fought he's also fought 2 cans.



Nah.. I just love torturing his delusional, pathetic fans that make him out to be something that he's not.

Delusional, pathetic fans, just like GSP, Penn, Shogun, Carwin who say Fedor is the best. But you know better then the fighters to. A guy who says he won't pick fighters, and has no favorite fighters, what a fan you are.

I think I figured you out. You must be one of those "paid UFC forum posters" that recently got outed. Cause you dont collect Sideshow, and you basically post in a toy forum that Lesnar is "GOD". And anything non-UFC drives you crazy.

And now you bring up weight, Fedor is a small HW, guys are always 20+lbs heavier then him. Lesnar outweighed Coture by 40lbs. Your stretching. We know, you hate Fedor, fine. But those long "stat" post aren't changing anyones opinion. You really need to get over it. Watch and enjoy the fights, MMA and stop being so negative.

 

[Devil_666]

you basically post in a toy forum that Lesnar is "GOD".

Please show me a single post where I've said he's a God or even unbeatable. I'll wait.

Cause you dont collect Sideshow

Oh this site is for SSC only? Could have fooled me with all the Hot Toys threads (which is what I collect).

And anything non-UFC drives you crazy.

So "crazy" that I watch all those non-UFC events like tonights Strikeforce card? lmao.

You must be one of those "paid UFC forum posters" that recently got outed.

Pure ignorance. We can get into how wrong that statement is if you want.

And now you bring up weight, Fedor is a small HW, guys are always 20+lbs heavier then him.

WEIGHED MORE THAN FEDOR
Brett Rogers - 40+ lbs more
Tim Sylvia - 40+ lbs more
Zulu - 40+ lbs more
Hong Man Choi - 40+ lbs more
Mark Hunt - 40+ lbs more
Kazuyuki Fujita - About 20 lbs more
Semmy Schilt - About 20+ lbs more
Naoya Ogawa - About 20+ lbs more
Kerry Schall - About 20+ lbs more
Gary Goodridge - About 10 lbs more
Andrei Arlovski - Only 7 lbs more


WEIGHED ABOUT THE SAME OR WERE SMALLER THAN FEDOR
Mark Coleman II (Exactly the same weight 224 lbs)
Heath Herring
Mihail Apostolov
Ricardo Arona
Martin Lazarov


WEIGHED LESS THAN FEDOR
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira III
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira I
Mirko Filipovic
Kevin Randleman
Mark Coleman
Matt Lindland
Tsuyoshi Kosaka II
Yuji Nagata
Egidijus Valavicius
Chris Haseman
Lee Hasdell
Ryushi Yanagisawa
Renato Sobral
Tsuyoshi Kosaka
Hiroya Takada
Levon Lagvilava


So basically, out of 33 total fights:

Fedor fought opponents smaller than him 17 times.
Fedor fought opponents about the same size/smaller 5 times.
Fedor fought opponents bigger than him 11 times.

NOTE: The two biggest wins in Fedor's career (Big Nogx2 and Cro Cop) weighed less than Fedor.

This whole "Fedor always beats bigger guys" BS is hilarious. He's fought more guys who were smaller than him or the same size than he has bigger guys.

You must be one of those "paid UFC forum posters" that recently got outed.

Which means you must work for M-1 Global. Right?

 

[daikkenaurora]

hahaha you guys make me laugh.

What time does Strikeforce start tonight? Like I said before, I hope Fedor loses (Even though he probably wont) just to see what his "fans" say.

 

[Devil_666]

hahaha you guys make me laugh.

What time does Strikeforce start tonight? Like I said before, I hope Fedor loses (Even though he probably wont) just to see what his "fans" say.

7pm/10pm. That 10pm Westcoast feed is gonna be taped though.

I have an Eastcoast feed for Showtime so I'll be watching it live at 7pm.