UFC, etc.

[bumblebee]

Interesting......Rashad has said if Jones wins the LHW belt that he would move down to MW or up to HW.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

I can see Rashad going back to HW. I can't, however, see him going down to MW.

 

[daikkenaurora]

I can see Rashad going back to HW. I can't, however, see him going down to MW.

His too small for HW... even though he did compete in the division before.

 

[KBA]

Interesting......Rashad has said if Jones wins the LHW belt that he would move down to MW or up to HW.

I don't get why fighters do this. What a fearful statement. Rashad is obviously optimal at LHW. What does he get moving up or down? I'd rather face Jones than Silva at MW or the beasts of HW if I were him.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

^^^^ Because he and Jones are in the same camp. He stated the same thing about Jardine.

Numerous websites are reporting that Rampage was, indeed, offered the fight against Shogun(good to know I wasn't alone in thinking this since I'm so "loony" lol).

He turned it down. So they gave the shot to Jones.

Rampage said during the Machida fight that he wanted to go back to the 'old way of doing things. Where he fought just to fight and didn't care about the money.'

Funny. Because the old Rampage I know would've taken the fight in a second. Oh well.

 

[bumblebee]

^^^^ Because he and Jones are in the same camp. He stated the same thing about Jardine.

Numerous websites are reporting that Rampage was, indeed, offered the fight against Shogun(good to know I wasn't alone in thinking this since I'm so "loony" lol).

He turned it down. So they gave the shot to Jones.

Rampage said during the Machida fight that he wanted to go back to the 'old way of doing things. Where he fought just to fight and didn't care about the money.'

Funny. Because the old Rampage I know would've taken the fight in a second. Oh well.

Rampage wants no part of Shogun, he remembers what happened last time they fought.

 

[daikkenaurora]

^^^^ Because he and Jones are in the same camp. He stated the same thing about Jardine.

Numerous websites are reporting that Rampage was, indeed, offered the fight against Shogun(good to know I wasn't alone in thinking this since I'm so "loony" lol).

He turned it down. So they gave the shot to Jones.

Rampage said during the Machida fight that he wanted to go back to the 'old way of doing things. Where he fought just to fight and didn't care about the money.'

Funny. Because the old Rampage I know would've taken the fight in a second. Oh well.

you are loony sir.

Wasnt Rampage vs Rashad and Rampage vs Machida supposed to showcase the old Rampage? And where did the Old Rampage go? Is he on hiatus?

 

[Devil_666]

Yeah I figured he turned down the title shot. I don't think it has anything to do with the 1st Shogun fight though because Wandy raped him twice (both times worse than what Shogun did) and Rampage had no problem taking that third fight AND knocking Wand TFO.

I think it has more to do with him getting back into a groove where he feels comfortable first. I'm sure he doesn't want a repeat of what happened after the Griffin fight where he went bonkers and started mowing pregnant women down in his monster truck.

Wasnt Rampage vs Rashad and Rampage vs Machida supposed to showcase the old Rampage? And where did the Old Rampage go? Is he on hiatus?

Yeah, he's said it before and it didn't happen. But Rampage DID say that again going into the Machida fight and even after the fight like NYNosferatu said. Rampage has definitely changed for the worse since joining the UFC. Which is funny.. because he was initially successful with that change; from striker/wrestler to straight boxer.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Yeah I figured he turned down the title shot. I don't think it has anything to do with the 1st Shogun fight though because Wandy raped him twice (both times worse than what Shogun did) and Rampage had no problem taking that third fight AND knocking Wand TFO.

I think it has more to do with him getting back into a groove where he feels comfortable first. I'm sure he doesn't want a repeat of what happened after the Griffin fight where he went bonkers and started mowing pregnant women down in his monster truck.



Yeah, he's said it before and it didn't happen. But Rampage DID say that again going into the Machida fight and even after the fight like NYNosferatu said. Rampage has definitely changed for the worse since joining the UFC. Which is funny.. because he was initially successful with that change; from striker/wrestler to straight boxer.

Rampage needs to spend more time with the wolves to get his killer instincts back.

 

[Devil_666]

A LOT of wrestlers have done it and A LOT of them have had success. But Rampage's problem is, once he upped his hand game he disregarded all his other strengths: Wrestling, Kicks, Slams, etc. He just got focused on throwing hands and head hunting and that's it. That's why it's so frustrating to watch him fight now. He rarely goes for takedowns/GnP and he rarely throws any leg kicks.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

you are loony sir.

Wasnt Rampage vs Rashad and Rampage vs Machida supposed to showcase the old Rampage? And where did the Old Rampage go? Is he on hiatus?

you're a tool, sir.


Rampage vs. Rashad/Machida are about 10X up the ladder than the level of competition Bones has fought. And I'M not saying the "old Rampage" went away, he was saying that the "old Rampage" had went away.

Regardless, as has already been stated, Rampage HAS been a shadow of his former self. But if you threw him in there with Bader, Matsshushenko, Vera, Hammil, Bonnar, and O'brien, and you don't think he's putting them into caskets, you're insane.

 

[KBA]

I could definitely see Bader surviving Rampage. I better check into the mental hospital...

 

[azurepred]

you're a tool, sir.


Rampage vs. Rashad/Machida are about 10X up the ladder than the level of competition Bones has fought. And I'M not saying the "old Rampage" went away, he was saying that the "old Rampage" had went away.

Regardless, as has already been stated, Rampage HAS been a shadow of his former self. But if you threw him in there with Bader, Matsshushenko, Vera, Hammil, Bonnar, and O'brien, and you don't think he's putting them into caskets, you're insane.

Rampage vs. Bader would not be a sure thing at all. Bader would have a very good chance at beating him. Jones is the scariest fighter in the division and besides Silva, nobody has run through opponents in the same manner as Jones has in the UFC. Its no fluke and no easy task to take out guys like he has, not to mention, he hasnt even been in one single bad situation in any fight. Even saying that, its not like Silva is running through great strikers himself, besides Vitor the other night. GSP and Jones are the only 2 fighters that have no weakness at the moment.

A LOT of wrestlers have done it and A LOT of them have had success. But Rampage's problem is, once he upped his hand game he disregarded all his other strengths: Wrestling, Kicks, Slams, etc. He just got focused on throwing hands and head hunting and that's it. That's why it's so frustrating to watch him fight now. He rarely goes for takedowns/GnP and he rarely throws any leg kicks.

pretty much............he also said when he lost the belt, he didnt want it back because of all the "attention" that comes with it. If Jones beats Shogun, keep your eye out on that Shogun rematch. Ramp doesnt fear Shogun at all, and i know he wants to get revenge, but i dont think he wants the belt at the moment.

Interesting......Rashad has said if Jones wins the LHW belt that he would move down to MW or up to HW.

Rampage was right, Rashad isnt a fighter, just an athlete. We had this same discussion about Finch. This is your job, you want to be champ again? you gotta take whatever opportunity you get cause you may never see another. The guy obviously has no desire to be champ.

I think Machida can beat Randy...Im not counting Randy out, but I think Machida can do it...then again I thought Vitor was going to be the one to take the belt from Anderson.

looks like GSP is the last option

 

[NosferatuBill36]

Rampage was right, Rashad isnt a fighter, just an athlete. We had this same discussion about Finch. This is your job, you want to be champ again? you gotta take whatever opportunity you get cause you may never see another. The guy obviously has no desire to be champ.

You realize that Jon Jones has said the same exact thing, right? Everyone from GJ's camp has stated that they would not fight each other. This has been going on for years.

Rashad sure looked like he wanted the title when he was pummeling a flailing Griffin on the floor like a 3 year old child.

Rashad is a fighter. But he's also human. One that chooses not to want to fight against guys he trains with on a daily basis. Jones feels the same way. As does Sanchez. As does Guillard. As do anyone else from the GJ camp.

 

[daikkenaurora]

you're a tool, sir.


Rampage vs. Rashad/Machida are about 10X up the ladder than the level of competition Bones has fought. And I'M not saying the "old Rampage" went away, he was saying that the "old Rampage" had went away.

Regardless, as has already been stated, Rampage HAS been a shadow of his former self. But if you threw him in there with Bader, Matsshushenko, Vera, Hammil, Bonnar, and O'brien, and you don't think he's putting them into caskets, you're insane.

Whats up with you and Jones? Is his success bothering you that much?

 

[NosferatuBill36]

Uh...YOU responded to MY post where I stated he didn't deserve the shot. You decided to take it further.

?

lol

 

[Devil_666]

Everyone in this thread is racist.

*runs away*

 

[Devil_666]

According to Rampage, the reason he turned down the title shot against Shogun is because of the short notice. He said he couldn't make weight in time. Said he would've had to drop 45lbs in 4 weeks and that would be impossible for him.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

Yeah on top of dropping weight if he comes in not ready and takes a loss...that puts him back even further. Better to just train and do what he has to do to and come in ready to fight.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

According to Rampage, the reason he turned down the title shot against Shogun is because of the short notice. He said he couldn't make weight in time. Said he would've had to drop 45lbs in 4 weeks and that would be impossible for him.

Makes sense to me.