Skiman
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Tru, he's flashy and exciting to watch and has made some other fighters look sawry but he really hasn't fought much in order to have his next match be GSP.
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darkknight
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Yup, that heavy weight Cain Velasquez looks like he could move up the ladder quick. Even after winning he was not happy with his performance and said he needs to get back into the gym and train harder. His opponent was also tough, looking forward for more of his fight. Overall that fight night was kick ass, no decision for the judges for any fights.
sscalltheway
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Anthony Johnson needs to win three more fights at least to even make it to a co-main event. He's to young but shows much potential. He got matched up with a vet (Rich Clementei) who has ok ground game and got choked out.
I agree.... He is a handfull now even though he is still young...
sscalltheway
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Very true, and the poke in the eye ordeal made him even hungrier to win.
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Devil_666
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lol. As far as Cain Velasquez, he's showing promise. But I don't think he's "the next big thing" as of yet. I'd like to see him fight Junior dos Santos for his next fight. Then maybe Heath Herring and then the winner of Gonzaga vs. Carwin. At that point, we'll know if he's legit or just hype. Because I've heard A LOT of hype about dude, but tbh I haven't been impressed yet.
sscalltheway
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lol. As far as Cain Velasquez, he's showing promise. But I don't think he's "the next big thing" as of yet. I'd like to see him fight Junior dos Santos for his next fight. Then maybe Heath Herring and then the winner of Gonzaga vs. Carwin. At that point, we'll know if he's legit or just hype. Because I've heard A LOT of hype about dude, but tbh I haven't been impressed yet.
AGREED. I don't know much about this dude but figting a bunch of nobody's and kicking the ^^^^ out of them is cool but he hasnt shown me anything that i like. Most heavyweights are amazing standing up because they have KO power but show me 2 HW go three rounds and look the same. There conditioning is usually horrible and this guy hasnt truly been tested. But nonetheless he looks like he has a future in the sport.
Devil_666
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ME said:
lmao.. well I guess we can scratch that: Dumbass Karo just tested positive for three different types of (BANNED) Painkillers! smh. Considering he's been flaky as of late, missing fights here and there and with all his recent injuries + this.. don't be surprised if he's cut.
Also.. Luigi Fioravanti, Rich Clementi, Eddie Sanchez, and Christian Wellisch just got their walking papers. Derek Downey was also cut, but I have no idea who he is!?
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sscalltheway
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Yeah to bad about Rich Clementi, i didn't like him at all but he lives in the same town as me. O well he talked ^^^^ and couldn't back it up on a under card.
It had to be, but it was a good flick, addicted on pain killers and a crazy GF. I remember he had a short comeback in Pride. His 1st fight back he super-plexed someone and landed on his head, and KO'd him self, such a let down. But he was a beast in his prime.
Skiman
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Talking about pain killers, have you guys ever seen the movie "The Smashing Machine - The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr" awesome doc about Kerr, gotta check it out.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to find this somewhere, I love docs
sscalltheway
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Never heard of him, will make sure to look for this. Is it new or old?
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Talking about pain killers, have you guys ever seen the movie "The Smashing Machine - The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr" awesome doc about Kerr, gotta check it out.
Former UFC champ Mark Kerr I know who he is. I met him at the Mr. Olympia at Mandalay Bay years back and he use to do lots of drugs with the bodybuilders and even with some of the fitness athletes who I knew. The favorite back then was GHB which they used for leaning out during sleep or to simply get high. He use to be a great athlete but then the drugs just took it's toll and he never achieved the greatness he once had.
Friday, February 13, 2009
by Lotfi Sariahmed ([email protected])
The UFC’s second trip to Montreal is in jeopardy following a decision by the Quebec Boxing Commission this week to adhere to regulations that prohibit elbow and knee strikes and other standard MMA moves.
Sportsnet.ca was the first to report on the story on Thursday.
Nearly 13,000 tickets have been sold for UFC 97 “Redemption,” scheduled to take place at the Bell Centre in Montreal on April 18, according to Marc Ratner, Vice President of Regulatory Affairs for the UFC. The show, which pits middleweight champion Anderson Silva against jiu-jitsu ace Thales Leites, may face tough choices in the coming days though.
The UFC broke attendance and box office records with its first event on Canadian soil 10 months ago, though that show was regulated under rules more akin to the unified rules of combat recognized throughout North America.
From 2000-2008, the Universal Combat Challenge, later renamed TKO, held 44 of its 46 events in Quebec under similar regulations as well.
But now Québécois officials are saying the province does not have the latitude to allow those or any other set of regulations outside of the ones they already have in place.
“We had a tolerance for the application of the rules in the past,” Réjean Thériault, director of communications for the combat sports division of the Governing Body of Alcohol, Races and Games of Quebec (RACJ), which oversees the commission, told Shedog.com on Thursday. “We learned today that we had a place for tolerance and we didn’t know. Now we know the rules under which to live. We informed all the promoters last week that they must now respect the rules of Quebec.”
Those rules regulate boxing, kickboxing and “mixed boxing,” which is described as a combination of boxing, kickboxing, wrestling and jiu-jitsu. Along with the prohibition of elbow and knee strikes both standing and grounded, the regulations also state that a referee will utilize a standing count to check on a fighter that has been knocked down.
The Octagon might also face downsizing to comply with the requirements, said Thériault.
Ratner, who has been in close contact with both the RACJ and commission in the last few days, said he believes the genesis for the sudden turn-around came from the near-riot that occurred last Friday at a Strikebox/Titans Fighting event in Montreal.
That event, promoted by former TKO president Stephan Patry, aimed to utilize MMA striking rules, but negated the ground aspect of the sport. However, the commission advised Patry that the proposed rule changes would not be allowed, and that the show would follow MMA regulations instead.
A private agreement amongst a majority of the fighters to keep the bouts standing was followed until the main event, when British brawler James Thompson took down Steve Bosse and began to ground-and-pound the Canadian hockey enforcer. The crowd of nearly 1,200 spectators erupted in disapproval, throwing chairs and beer cans. The commission called the contest, while the fighters had to be escorted out of the cage by security.
Though Thériault acknowledges that the Strikebox/Titans fiasco played a role in what appears to be a sudden adherence to the rules on hand, he said the decision has already been in the works for some time.
“[The Strikebox scenario] was an important part of getting us to this point, but Richard Renaud [Director of the Division of Combat Sports in the RACJ], who is replacing Mario LaTraverse, has been working with the President of the RACJ, Denis Racicot to change the sport, and noted that we had tolerated the [past] rules,” Thériault said.
Ratner believes LaTraverse’s retirement from the commission has also played a role in the recent events, but sees a positive outcome on the horizon.
“We're aware of the situation and working with [the RACJ and the Quebec Boxing Commission] to resolve the situation,” Ratner told Sherdog.com on Thursday. “I'm confident that this will all work out.”
While Ratner said discussions regarding the rules would continue into next week, Thériault emphasized that the RACJ was neither making any drastic changes nor trying to run the UFC out of town.
“We’re not following any new rules,” he said. “We’re following the rules that are in place.”
by Lotfi Sariahmed ([email protected])
The UFC’s second trip to Montreal is in jeopardy following a decision by the Quebec Boxing Commission this week to adhere to regulations that prohibit elbow and knee strikes and other standard MMA moves.
Sportsnet.ca was the first to report on the story on Thursday.
Nearly 13,000 tickets have been sold for UFC 97 “Redemption,” scheduled to take place at the Bell Centre in Montreal on April 18, according to Marc Ratner, Vice President of Regulatory Affairs for the UFC. The show, which pits middleweight champion Anderson Silva against jiu-jitsu ace Thales Leites, may face tough choices in the coming days though.
The UFC broke attendance and box office records with its first event on Canadian soil 10 months ago, though that show was regulated under rules more akin to the unified rules of combat recognized throughout North America.
From 2000-2008, the Universal Combat Challenge, later renamed TKO, held 44 of its 46 events in Quebec under similar regulations as well.
But now Québécois officials are saying the province does not have the latitude to allow those or any other set of regulations outside of the ones they already have in place.
“We had a tolerance for the application of the rules in the past,” Réjean Thériault, director of communications for the combat sports division of the Governing Body of Alcohol, Races and Games of Quebec (RACJ), which oversees the commission, told Shedog.com on Thursday. “We learned today that we had a place for tolerance and we didn’t know. Now we know the rules under which to live. We informed all the promoters last week that they must now respect the rules of Quebec.”
Those rules regulate boxing, kickboxing and “mixed boxing,” which is described as a combination of boxing, kickboxing, wrestling and jiu-jitsu. Along with the prohibition of elbow and knee strikes both standing and grounded, the regulations also state that a referee will utilize a standing count to check on a fighter that has been knocked down.
The Octagon might also face downsizing to comply with the requirements, said Thériault.
Ratner, who has been in close contact with both the RACJ and commission in the last few days, said he believes the genesis for the sudden turn-around came from the near-riot that occurred last Friday at a Strikebox/Titans Fighting event in Montreal.
That event, promoted by former TKO president Stephan Patry, aimed to utilize MMA striking rules, but negated the ground aspect of the sport. However, the commission advised Patry that the proposed rule changes would not be allowed, and that the show would follow MMA regulations instead.
A private agreement amongst a majority of the fighters to keep the bouts standing was followed until the main event, when British brawler James Thompson took down Steve Bosse and began to ground-and-pound the Canadian hockey enforcer. The crowd of nearly 1,200 spectators erupted in disapproval, throwing chairs and beer cans. The commission called the contest, while the fighters had to be escorted out of the cage by security.
Though Thériault acknowledges that the Strikebox/Titans fiasco played a role in what appears to be a sudden adherence to the rules on hand, he said the decision has already been in the works for some time.
“[The Strikebox scenario] was an important part of getting us to this point, but Richard Renaud [Director of the Division of Combat Sports in the RACJ], who is replacing Mario LaTraverse, has been working with the President of the RACJ, Denis Racicot to change the sport, and noted that we had tolerated the [past] rules,” Thériault said.
Ratner believes LaTraverse’s retirement from the commission has also played a role in the recent events, but sees a positive outcome on the horizon.
“We're aware of the situation and working with [the RACJ and the Quebec Boxing Commission] to resolve the situation,” Ratner told Sherdog.com on Thursday. “I'm confident that this will all work out.”
While Ratner said discussions regarding the rules would continue into next week, Thériault emphasized that the RACJ was neither making any drastic changes nor trying to run the UFC out of town.
“We’re not following any new rules,” he said. “We’re following the rules that are in place.”
Any recent news on this issue?
Devil_666
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Last I heard (today) the RACJ/QBC are sticking by their decision. So it looks like UFC 97 will not be in Montreal because under the enforced rule set up. No way Dana allows that, especially with a title fight involving Anderson Silva.
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