Vice Presidential Debate Tonight - Biden vs. Palin.... DING, DING, DING

[Sick Boy 82]

Hahahaha, + Infinity!!!!

 

[DarkArtist81]

 

[RoboDad]

Laughter, still the best medicine!

 

[The Josh]

We posted a good bit of it a few pages back. And dude, you are my friend and all... but your posts all seem like propaganda lines and BS. I feel like I am reading a transcript from FOX News.

No disrespect meant...

Quoted again for truth.

Thats some seriously funny ^^^^. Pun intended.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I think I should have voted for Master Pain....

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[CelticPredator]

Asking people to pray is fanatical?

No, but using your religious beliefs to fuel your campaign is. Keep your religious crap to your self. I honestly dont trust overly religious candiates because they do things I wholeheartly dont agree with. But I know they'll push God, and Jesus into everything....but I wish they wouldnt.

 

[barbelith]

No, but using your religious beliefs to fuel your campaign is. Keep your religious crap to your self. I honestly dont trust overly religious candiates because they do things I wholeheartly dont agree with. But I know they'll push God, and Jesus into everything....but I wish they wouldnt.

It's interesting that our current enemies are run by true believers, while most of the Western nations stamp that crap out of government. No lesson there, then?

 

[drbrad1975]

No, but using your religious beliefs to fuel your campaign is. Keep your religious crap to your self. I honestly dont trust overly religious candiates because they do things I wholeheartly dont agree with. But I know they'll push God, and Jesus into everything....but I wish they wouldnt.

There is nothing wrong with letting ones faith help guide them.

 

[drbrad1975]

It's interesting that our current enemies are run by true believers, while most of the Western nations stamp that crap out of government. No lesson there, then?

There's a difference between fanatical religious zealots and those who are deeply religious. Religion is not the problem here.

 

[barbelith]

There is nothing wrong with letting ones faith help guide them.

Depends on the issue and the guidance. I prefer a rational government.

 

[barbelith]

There's a difference between fanatical religious zealots and those who are deeply religious.

Anyone trying to foist their mythologies onto the masses via government is a fanatical religious zealot.

 

[LChinoz]

There is nothing wrong with letting ones faith help guide them.

I agree whole heartedly. I belief the values faith brings are good, such as taking care of one another, loving thy neighbor, etc. Letting faith guide you is different than saying the soldiers going to Iraq are on "a task from God." Lots of people can justify their actions by saying that it is God's plan or will, or a task from God, but really, no one knows what God's plan is. It is not the fact that Palin asks for prayer. I pray all the time. It is that she is inserting politics (especially the blunder that is the Iraq war) into her religious beliefs. The question that Gibson asked was simple: Does she think the Iraq war was a task from God? Really, war as a task from God? There is no backtracking that can be made with that statement. For those who opposed the war, are they going against the task from God? We as people should not try and insert God and faith into our politics. Faith can and will ALWAYS guide us. We always hope we are doing what is best, but IMO never should we say our directions were given to us from God. We hope to be doing God's work, but never should assume God's side on a political topic. The term "task from God" referring to the war is really not justifiable. Just my opinion.

 

[LChinoz]

Let's get off the idea of faith. There are many more scary issues at hand. For example, as I stated before regarding gaffes: A gaffe is a misstatement, something said that is ridiculous and not thought through, like Obama saying there were 57 states. I have not met one person who keeps reusing this 57 states line that ACTUALLY BELIEVES Obama thinks there are 57 states. He made a mistake, this was a gaffe. He knows there are 50 states. Now, I do not know of one instance when Palin made a clear "gaffe." She has gotten negative coverage for what she doesn't know. A non-answer is NOT a gaffe:

Didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was
Didn't know any examples of McCain pushing for more regulation
Didn't know any other court cases she disagreed with
Didn't know what periodicals she read

I may be being unfair in my assesment, but IMO you don't answer a question, then that means you have no answer. And to top it off, while most people don't believe Obama thinks there are 57 states, I think a lot of people DO belive she thinks Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience. These facts do scare me because she has consistently said you cannot "blink," but in interviews has done nothing but "blink." These are more important issues to me personally.

 

[Avfin]

Wasn't it God in the old testament who commanded His people to go to war?
It was in His Grace and Love that he only wanted those nations that were truly despicable and evil to be totally destroyed , and other nations He gave them a change to correct their evil ways.

 

[LChinoz]

Wasn't it God in the old testament who commanded His people to go to war?
It was in His Grace and Love that he only wanted those nations that were truly despicable and evil to be totally destroyed , and other nations He gave them a change to correct their evil ways.

Yes, that was in the Old Testament. Things changed in the book though There is no question God was a much more authoritative figure in the old testament, and when the day comes when I hear God tell Palin and others it is his/her task to go to war, then I may change my tune. Right now, the fact is they are using assumptions to push their politial beliefs. Faith deserves better.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Yes, that was in the Old Testament. Things changed in the book though There is no question God was a much more authoritative figure in the old testament, and when the day comes when I hear God tell Palin and others it is his/her task to go to war, then I may change my tune. Right now, the fact is they are using assumptions to push their politial beliefs. Faith deserves better.

Exactly and that is my huge prblem with her.

I have problems with Jebus and for good reasons I won't go into here. That's why Josh will not stand near me during a lightning storm.

 

[barbelith]

She has gotten negative coverage for what she doesn't know.

Knowing things is so passe. I think John Stewart nailed it when he said we live in a post-fact environment.

 

[Mike1065]

Something that troubles me with Obama is his record of voting 'Present' on many issues as a Senator, especially on controversial ones. How can we expect him to make crucial and difficult decisions when the time comes if he's too afraid to do it as a Senator? There's no voting present when you're in the oval office.

Back on topic, the debate should be interesting tonight, but here's my prediction, which will be 100% accurate:

-Obama supporters will say Biden won
-McCain supporters will say Palin won

There's no such thing as "winning" a debate, each side will like their candidate, and those of us in the center will be continually unimpressed by both contenders.

 

[Fubeca]

Something that troubles me with Obama is his record of voting 'Present' on many issues as a Senator, especially on controversial ones. How can we expect him to make crucial and difficult decisions when the time comes if he's too afraid to do it as a Senator? There's no voting present when you're in the oval office.

Back on topic, the debate should be interesting tonight, but here's my prediction, which will be 100% accurate:

-Obama supporters will say Biden won
-McCain supporters will say Palin won

There's no such thing as "winning" a debate, each side will like their candidate, and those of us in the center will be continually unimpressed by both contenders.

That is debatable! Sorry couldn't resist

 

[Batty]

That is debatable! Sorry couldn't resist