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You guys are so angry and rude. Wtf?

You don't understand a basic emotion such as empathy for the victims families and you're worried about people being rude on a message board? You've got some issues.
 
You don't understand a basic emotion such as empathy for the victims families and you're worried about people being rude on a message board? You've got some issues.

More killing is not empathy. Empathy is caring for the victims and their families. I've said the only justice is bringing back the dead (which is impossible). Everyone else just repeats the same nonsense "burn him" "hang him" "torture him" "kill him" etc. This isn't empathy or justice. This is emotional anger which won't solve ____ for the families or the ones who were the victims of this tragic atrocity...
 
Originally Posted by Dracula

I'd understand if the families of the victims reacted emotionally like this, but for people who don't even know the people to somehow want to see the murderer get burned on a pole like a witch is insane.


em·pa·thy/ˈempəTHē/ Noun: The ability to understand and share the feelings of another
 
More killing is not empathy. Empathy is caring for the victims and their families. I've said the only justice is bringing back the dead (which is impossible). Everyone else just repeats the same nonsense "burn him" "hang him" "torture him" "kill him" etc. This isn't empathy or justice. This is emotional anger which won't solve ____ for the families or the ones who were the victims of this tragic atrocity...

You're talking about sympathy for the families, not empathy. You obviously have an internet connection, stop being ignorant. Calling people insane because they want what you call "barbaric" things to happen?

We have a major tragedy and all you do is troll the internet to make fun of people who are greiving this, because they're not directly related to the victims?

You gave your opinion and even then said you were out. Yet, you keep coming back.

Choke yourself nutbag
 
Originally Posted by Dracula

I'd understand if the families of the victims reacted emotionally like this, but for people who don't even know the people to somehow want to see the murderer get burned on a pole like a witch is insane.


em·pa·thy/ˈempəTHē/ Noun: The ability to understand and share the feelings of another

How do you know all of them want the murderer dead? And who are you to say that that is logical? Basing it on the feelings of the families victims who recently got struck by something terrible like this? That is very rational indeed.

To be honest, most of you guys wanted him dead before ONE of the victims family member said he wanted the murderer dead.
 
If he chose to live rather than shoot himself I submit that maybe he doesn't want to die - in which case killing him would be apt punishment. Not necessarily the case that he doesn't want to die but I'm just throwing that out there.

I think you might be right, he was wearing a bullet proof vest, which means he didn't want to be shot. Usually these nutbags kill themselves after their evil deeds. I say throw him in a tank of piranhas...it would be feeding an animal to them, cause this ****** gave up being human once he stormed into that theater.
 
My thoughts on the death penalty are if you are 100% guilty then you will receive a speedy trial and a speedy death. I am a firm believer in that the death penalty is not a deterrant because it takes so long for it to happen. If a jury declared this guy guilty and sentenced him to death within a month or sooner, it is my belief that you would see a lot of bull____ murders stop. Not all mind you but a good percentage.
But a lot of murders here, probably making up the biggest chunk of gun violence related murders, are poor, black on black violence.

https://www.americanfirearms.org/statistics.php#24

Based on data for the years 1976-2005 -

-Blacks are disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders.
-The victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than those for whites.
-The offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher the rates for whites.

Source: FBI, Uniform Crime Reports, 1950-2005

Annual Household Income

Persons with annual household incomes of less than $7,500 experienced both armed violence and firearm violence at about 3 times the rates of persons with annual household incomes of $50,000 or more (23.1 versus 7.3 armed victimizations per 1,000 persons, and 8.4 versus 2.4 firearm victimizations, respectively)


In those cases, effective attorneys often aren't employed, there is little political will in making sure that those killers are treated in any particular way, and perhaps most importantly, the victims aren't often perceived to be very different than the perpetrators (when gang or drug violence is taking place). So, the death penalty probably isn't even sought much of the time unless it was an innocent bystander who was killed, a store owner who was robbed, or some guy whose walked into the wrong neighborhood and had his wallet stolen.

I think the death penalty is a pretty strong deterrent for reasonably rational would-be killers in this community, who are far more likely to kill peers than well-to-do folks elsewhere in the community (where the risk of serious punishment would go up exponentially). The problem is that the death penalty isn't sought in earnest in every murder case.

I don't think gun control or the fear of the death penalty would have mattered one lick in the Dark Knight shooting case, because it is likely that the perpetrator was so f'ed up and determined to cause mayhem that he was beyond such concerns.
 
Just leave the shooter in the room with this guy, problem solved.
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How do you know all of them want the murderer dead? And who are you to say that that is logical? Basing it on the feelings of the families victims who recently got struck by something terrible like this? That is very rational indeed.

To be honest, most of you guys wanted him dead before ONE of the victims family member said he wanted the murderer dead.

What did I say was logical? I sure wouldn't apply logic to someone with their head up their ass as far as you. Keep slapping yourself, maybe you'll get it.
 
More killing is not empathy. Empathy is caring for the victims and their families. I've said the only justice is bringing back the dead (which is impossible). Everyone else just repeats the same nonsense "burn him" "hang him" "torture him" "kill him" etc. This isn't empathy or justice. This is emotional anger which won't solve ____ for the families or the ones who were the victims of this tragic atrocity...

I"m not sure you know the distinction between sympathy and empathy. Maybe you should stop talking now.
 
You don't understand a basic emotion such as empathy for the victims families and you're worried about people being rude on a message board? You've got some issues.

This is 100% correct. I was going to post the same thing.


Thing is Dracula is that when a event like this happens people put themselves in the shoes of the victem. They imagine the pain of losing a loved one of the fear of being there or being shot.

Hell I was at the Dark Knight last night and I got a tad shook up because it's an event that could have happened anywhere. We just had a mass shooting in the city of binghamton NY a couple of years ago. Same city I saw the film in. So it is hard to not have an emotional response.

However it is just that. An emotional response and I am not saying it's wrong or right. But you should try to have some empathy for those who have empathy.
 
I"m not sure you know the distinction between sympathy and empathy. Maybe you should stop talking now.

The only empathy I share with the victims families is sorrow for the loss. But if some of them feel the need for more killing, I don't share that feeling with them.
 
The only empathy I share with the victims families is sorrow for the loss. But if some of them feel the need for more killing, I don't share that feeling with them.

You are still missing the point. You have sympathy for the family. You are not putting yourself in their shoes and imagining what they must be going through and what they must be feeling.
 
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