Which Batman film is better?

[FLOSI]

I have no clue which is best... I need a second viewing of TDKR before I can say.

The Bale/Nolan Batman trilogy ranks right up there with some of the all time dork greats though, like LOTR and the SW OT.

 

[devilof76]

Damn straight. Star Wars. Lord of the Rings. Indiana Jones.

Are there any others?

 

[EVILFACE]

Mad Max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

 

[OSCORP]

BB best of the bunch!

 

[FLOSI]

Damn straight. Star Wars. Lord of the Rings. Indiana Jones.

Are there any others?

Word. Indy.

Mad Max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Uh oh... I smell a debate!!!

 

[Alex Logan]

I have no clue which is best... I need a second viewing of TDKR before I can say.

The Bale/Nolan Batman trilogy ranks right up there with some of the all time dork greats though, like LOTR and the SW OT.

It's funny that you say that because I was just comparing the Batman Trilogy to SW OT this weekend.

Batman Begins gave us something that we had not seen before. It was fresh and exciting. We needed more.

The Dark Knight blow the doors off the theater. It was just about as close to a perfect film as we could get and it had the "Empire" ending.

The Dark Knight Rises maybe not be what everyone expected, but I think expectations are far too high, even if people don't realize it on an subconscious level. It's a great film that give us a solid Batman/Bruce Wayne story, and two awesome performances by Hardy and Hathaway. It also tied up everything very nicely.

I have one issue with each film, but I'm very happy about the way things turned out.

 

[devilof76]

BB best of the bunch!

Begins was my favorite going into this. This was Begins on venom serum. I can't like it less.

 

[a-dev]

You got a few wrong, so I'd say you're doing alright.

Phew. The DC section is a dangerous place for me right now. Won't be going to see it today either. If my seeing it gets delayed past wednesday I'll be proper pissed off.

 

[devilof76]

You'll know the whole movie by then.

Mad Max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

That's a fact.

Uh oh... I smell a debate!!!

No debate here.

 

[Ziggie]

Damn it's hard to choose between BB and TDK.

 

[Fernandofan08]

Exactly how I feel at the moment.

Add to that the emotional weight I felt in TDKR - I felt fear, I felt the pain, I felt the sorrow.

I was moved by begins but not to this extent.

I thought Begins was abit, well less enjoyable. I loved the fight scenes and how they represented a young Bruce, the fast efficiency made me think of the anger and fury he had. He just got there, no showboating and just dispatched them asap as brutally efficient as possible. I loved the chase in the Tumbler asmuch as I loved the year one inspired 'back up'.

I think both Ra's and Scarecrow werent that good a villain in the film. Liam Neeson ofcourse was superb, Cillian was awsome as Scarecrow,but it just fell abit.... well flat to me. I just didnt enjoy the film as much as I enjoyed the other two. I think the way to put it, is there wasnt as much depth; by that I mean the relationship between the Villains and Batman. I didnt FEEL a personal grudge between R'as and Bruce. I didnt feel any threat from either villain. Scarecrow is awsome but a secondary villain, Rhas was good but, I dont know.

He was merely a tool in which Bruce learned to control his aggression, face his fear and the skills to fight injustice, it didnt feel asif Ra's was threatening, or that the League of Shadows were formidable or even large scale. they had Ninjas in the mountains, but they all fled while bruce saved Ra's. Then he took 4 of them down like they were mobsters. TDKR, they felt much more powerful, much more present and much much more of a threat, a danger.

I just think the way Ra's was written and used was underwhelming, Neeson couldve done so much more with the role. I didnt mind Bruce being taught by the league of shadows, but it just fell flat to be honest. If the league of shadows were so powerful and they infiltrated every aspect of Gotham, what happened to all the members who were dressed as SWAT and things like that? Bruce only fought 4 dressed as Ninjas, thats it. The rest just vanished. probably to Bane really looking back.

But, I dont know. I still love the film, I didnt think it was anywhere near as good as TDK or TDKR. There was no challenge or testing of Batman/Bruce.

 

[pmtz2005]

I vote The Dark Knight

 

[jye4ever]

don't realize it on an unconscious level.

Probably just a typo on your part, but it's at a subconscious level, not unconscious.

Unconscious is what will happen to you when your wife finds out how much you payed for the 89 Batmobile.

 

[Ziggie]

Probably just a typo on your part, but it's at a subconscious level, not unconscious.

Unconscious is what will happen to you when your wife finds out how much you payed for the 89 Batmobile.

 

[intothevoid]

Probably just a typo on your part, but it's at a subconscious level, not unconscious.

Unconscious is what will happen to you when your wife finds out how much you payed for the 89 Batmobile.

 

[IrishJedi]

1. TDK
2. TDKR
3. BEGINS

They're all fairly close, though. All in the 8-9/10 range.

 

[intothevoid]

It's nice to see a good spread in the votes though, just goes to show that the trilogy is great and none of the films is out of place in terms of its quality

 

[The Josh]

1. TDK
2. TDKR
3. BEGINS

They're all fairly close, though. All in the 8-9/10 range.

That's my order as well. However I'd rate them a bit different on a 10 scale.

TDK 8/10
TDKR 7.5/10
BB 7/10

 

[Tyler]

Batman Begins for me. It's almost perfect. I don't think I can get bored with it.

The Dark Knight is just ok as far as I'm concerned. I really have to be in the mood to watch it. Even then I sometimes switch it off before it finishes.

I just got home after watching The Dark Knight Rises. Whilst watching it I felt it was very, very good. Almost on par with Begins. It really hit all the right notes whilst watching it. But by the time I got back to my car I was finding faults with the final act that will greatly reduce my appreciation of this one over time.

Spoiler

The parts that are playing on my mind are that Bruce is completely broke, unshaven and in soiled prison clothing when he climbs out of the well. The prison he broke out of is presumably in the far east somewhere, but I could be wrong about that. Next he is all clean shaven in normal clothing walking around Gotham which is blockaded by the military and other police forcess.

I could be mistaken on this one, but I swear we have a shot of Batman piloting the Batwing or what ever it is about two seconds before the nuclear explosion. Then it turns out that Batman somehow jettisoned from the craft after activating the autopilot system and escaping to a safe distance to survive the nuclear blast.

I'm not an expert on nuclear bombs, but I don't think he really flew that far away that Gotham would not have suffered some instant effects. I'm guessing it was also close enough to cause long term effects to the city as well. Although I understand that the main reason for attempting to fly it away was to prevent the instant deaths of millions at the time of the explosion.

Next thing we have is Bruce Wayne's funeral. Who or how did they get the courts to decide Bruce was dead. Other than explaining to the courts that Batman and Bruce are the same person I would have thought it would take at least seven years to declare him dead. Especially as he has a history of going missing for years at a time before reappearing.

When the lawyer revealed that the cop played by Gorden Lovett was actually called Robin I wasn't impressed. I had built up a scenario of him taking the reigns of Batman from Bruce. Especially after Batman telling Commissioner Gordon that anyone can be the Bat as he is an image, (at the same time as revealing his true identity to him) not an actual person.

I could be being to harsh with my observations, but if I'm finding what appear to be flaws so soon after one viewing that are playing on my mind, then it can't go at the top of the list for me. It may end up at the bottom over time. I'll have to get the Bluray and see how I feel after an other viewing or two.

 

[Maglor]

I seem to remember a certain clown throwing thugs at Batman and one thug landing a pretty good square hit to Batman's jaw. Or a kick from a hidden knife of the said clown's shoe. Or when the clown sicks the Chechen's dogs on Batman, then easily pummels him with a pipe, throws a net on him and then chokes him with a girder beam.

If that ain't a physical challenge or over powering Batman, I don't know what is.

Joker could beat Bane I bet. He'd fight dirty, but he'd win.

Having to use weapons and booby traps or whatever is different than being a purely physical challenge.

Sorry Joker is no match for Batman 1 on 1. That's why they gave him a knife dogs a net and a lead pipe.

Raz = ninja

Bane = powerhouse

Joker = psychotic, but phi socially weak compared to Batman

I vote the Dark Knight Rises to skew poll results.


Secretly I like another more betterer!

Chilli dog style

And that emotion came from all of them. I was especially impressed by Bane, actually. He could have been a simple, obedient dog to the dream that Ra's instilled in him (no matter how profound the dream was, and how profound a mind it would take to fulfill the mission), and he was right up until it was revealed who the child in the pit was. Anyone can be a one-note badass. To be that hardcore and still have such intense passion beneath it all makes for a hell of a character. Far more appropriate to Dostoevsky than a comic book.

I'd like to hear more on this. To me Bane and his motivation felt really deflated at the end, but you seem to think it made the character more interesting.

Maybe I should go into the spoiler thread...

Couple of moments with JGL really hit the perfect note for me as well

1. When he immediately regrets killing those two, you see it in his eyes
2. When he's looking on in wonder at Batman dismantling the merc's, with just the right amount of force, no killing, just incapacitating.
3. When he sees the bomb go off.

Indeed. Awesome sauce.

1. Of course he did, they could have been interrogated.
2. Of course he did, they were going rape him.
3. Yes Boy Wonder, lets look at the flash of a nuclear bomb going off so you can become Daredevil instead of Nightwing.

Spoil sport.

It's nice to see a good spread in the votes though, just goes to show that the trilogy is great and none of the films is out of place in terms of its quality

That's what I was thinking too.