Which Batman film is better?

[SnakeDoctor]

Nova laughs at car accidents.

Sometimes people bounce funny.

SnakeDoc

 

[Alex Logan]

Spoiler

IF you remember, Bruce escaped when there was 48 hours till the bomb explodes or something like that, he arrives in Gotham with about 6 hours to spare or something like that I think.

Im not sure how he got to Gotham. id presume it would be using the tunnels for the slaves that his great grandfather build under the mansion, could be a way of getting into the city.

I get what you mean about the presumption of Batman still driving the Bat away, but it could just be selective editing,it looks like Bats is realising something. At first you think its him accepting death, but really its him accepting life. If you think how the editing is done, the bomb is ticking down whilst Gordon is attempting to put the EMP thing on the bomb, and then it cuts to something else for a minuet, but only a second has elapsed, so its showing things happening at the same time. So you could say that The shots of batman in the Bat are happening as he is flying over the bridge. Selective editing I think.

They declare Bruce dead because they use the 'Death by Exile' scene. If you look at all the ice thats shattered when they send the dude who was Daggets right hand man, many rich have been cast out to their deaths, so they can easily say that Wayne was exiled by Crane, league of Shadows and the criminals of Gotham. Thats the only explanation as many of the rich were killed that way.

I didnt mind the reveal. It was more of a fan service than anything. Yeah it wouldve been easier if they said 'Mr R Grayson' but it didnt bother me. JGL reminded me of a mix between Nightwing Grayson and the attitude of Drake.

I think the whole 'Batman could be anybody and inspire hope' was a hint from Bruce to JGL that he could take up the mantle. But after unveiling the statue, I think Blake would put his own twist on the Batman costume out of respect for Bruce. I dont see it like R.I.P where Grayson inherits the costume. I dont think that would fit at all IMO. would be nice if he turned the Batcostume into a nightwing-esque style suit.

 

[Voorhees27]

Sometimes people bounce funny.

SnakeDoc

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Nova laughs at car accidents.

 

[MasterSafara]

Sorry. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin movies are a complete joke. Jim Carry played a decent Riddler but if he was cast under Nolan it would have been a darker Riddler. Instead what it is, is a waste. IMO

 

[krec9]

Batman begins
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[DiFabio]

Batman Returns

If I included those it'd be something like this for me even though I hate ranking these films,




1. (The Dark Knight/'89 Batman)

2. (Batman Begins/Batman Returns)

3. The Dark Knight Rises





4. Batman Forever














5. Batman and Robin









The top three being swappable by mood. I do get nostalgic for Batman Forever sometimes.



Batman: The Animated Series (the shows and Mask of Phantasm) would be at the very top if included. That's pretty much the definitive version of Batman for me.




Film Villains of the rogues gallery (not including Grissom, Max Shreck, Falcone, Maroni, the Chechen etc.) I'd rank,


1. The Joker (TDK Ledger)

2. The Joker ('89 Nicholson)

3. Ra's Al Ghul (Neeson)

4. Catwoman (Returns Pfeiffer)

5. Catwoman (Rises Hathaway)

6. The Penguin (Devito)

7. Two-Face (TDK Eckhart)

8. Scarecrow

9. The Riddler

10. Two-Face (Forever Jones)

11. Mr. Freeze (for the lolz)

12. Talia

13. Bane (TDKR Hardy)

14. Poison Ivy

15. Bane (Batman and Robin)

 

[intothevoid]

If I included those it'd be something like this for me even though I hate ranking these films,




1. (The Dark Knight/'89 Batman)

2. (Batman Begins/Batman Returns)

3. The Dark Knight Rises





4. Batman Forever














5. Batman and Robin




The top three being swappable by mood. I do get nostalgic for Batman Forever sometimes.

Batman: The Animated Series (the shows and Mask of Phantasm) would be at the very top if included. That's pretty much the definitive version of Batman for me.

For me:

1. TDKR - 9.6/10
2. BB - 9.5/10
3. TDK - 9.4/10
4. Batman '89 - 8/10
5. Batman Returns - 7/10
6. Batman Forever - 6/10
7. B&R - 0/10

 

[cerealkeller]

I had to vote Begins. Love all 3 but nothing can match the pure adrenaline rush of walking out of Begins the first time. Perfectly executed Batman film and the themes they explored were given enough time to breath and never felt rushed.

I love all 3 though and my order is:
1. Batman Begins
2. Tie for TDK and TDKR currently. Time will tell if one comes out ahead of the other. Need to see TDKR at home to let it fully digest as much as the other two.

 

[DiFabio]

For me:

1. TDKR - 9.6/10
2. BB - 9.5/10
3. TDK - 9.4/10
4. Batman '89 - 8/10
5. Batman Returns - 7/10
6. Batman Forever - 6/10
7. B&R - 0/10

What's keeping your top 2 from being tens? We're talking .4 and .5 here.


ZERO for Batman and Robin? Not even a 1/10 for Bane in a purple gorilla outfit or ice skate blades on the bottom of the boots?


Nah, it deserves a zero after all the other Batman films that came out before and after it.

 

[intothevoid]

What's keeping your top 2 from being tens? We're talking .4 and .5 here.


ZERO for Batman and Robin? Not even a 1/10 for Bane in a purple gorilla outfit or ice skate blades on the bottom of the boots?


Nah, it deserves a zero after all the other Batman films that came out before and after it.

Basically they're all about 9.5 but i'm just differentiating them based on the order I like them.
I find flaws with each so not gonna give them 10s

BB - I don't like how the 3rd act plays out after the unbelievably good first and second acts. The execution falls a little flat for me, and Ra's characterization once he comes to Gotham is nowhere near as strong as when he's Ducard in Act 1.

TDK - as we've discussed before, Harvey is the protagonist of the film and his turn is not 100% convincing, I think it needed more about his two faced past. Also needed less over the top Batman voice.

TDKR - editing issues are my only major gripe. Many scenes felt like they were choked due to runtime restrictions.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

Rises was fantastic - but ROBIN!? NO NO NO.

Batman: The Animated Series (the shows and Mask of Phantasm) would be at the very top if included. That's pretty much the definitive version of Batman for me.

 

[jye4ever]

1. BB - 9.5/10
2. TDK - 9.4/10
3. TDKR - 9.0/10
4. Batman 89 - 8/10
5. Batman Returns - 5/10
6. Batman Forever - 0/10
7. Batman and Robin - 0/10

Villains:


1. The Joker (TDK)

2. The Joker (89)

3. Ra's Al Ghul (BB)

4. Two-Face (TDK)

5. Scarecrow (BB)

6. Catwoman (TDKR)

7. Bane (TDKR)

8. Catwoman (BR)

9. Penguin (BR)

10. Talia (TDKR)

11. The Riddler (BF)

10. Two-Face (BF)

11. Mr. Freeze (B&R)

14. Poison Ivy (B&R)

15. Bane (B&R)

 

[intothevoid]

1. BB - 9.5/10
2. TDK - 9.4/10
3. TDKR - 9.0/10
4. Batman 89 - 8/10
5. Batman Returns - 5/10
6. Batman Forever - 0/10
7. Batman and Robin - 0/10

Villains:


1. The Joker (TDK)

2. The Joker (89)

3. Ra's Al Ghul (BB)

4. Two-Face (TDK)

5. Scarecrow (BB)

6. Catwoman (TDKR)

7. Bane (TDKR)

8. Catwoman (BR)

9. Penguin (BR)

10. Talia (TDKR)

11. The Riddler (BF)

10. Two-Face (BF)

11. Mr. Freeze (B&R)

14. Poison Ivy (B&R)

15. Bane (B&R)

Ah Villain list. Interesting

1. Joker (TDK)
2. Ra's (BB)
3. Catwoman (TDKR)
4. Bane (TDKR)
5. Two Face (TDK)
6. Joker (89)
7. Catwoman (Returns)
8. Scarecrow (BB/TDK)
9. Penguin (Returns)
10. Talia (TDKR)
11. Riddler (Forever)
12. Two Face (Forever)
13. Poison Ivy (B&R)
14. Freeze (B&R)
15. Bane (B&R)

 

[FLOSI]

How is Catwoman a villain??

 

[intothevoid]

How is Catwoman a villain??

She's not, it's just for rating's sake

 

[FLOSI]

She's not, it's just for rating's sake

She really always fell somewhere in the middle. I was really a little shocked at how well Hathaway pulled the character off.

 

[DiFabio]

How is Catwoman a villain??

She steals pearls and a Lamborghini, tricks Batman into getting his ass kicked, goes to jail, has a bad criminal record . . . BUT, she has a heart of gold.

Catwoman is never really portrayed as an outright villain. Then again, she's not Wonder Woman, Supergirl or Batgirl either.

 

[FLOSI]

She steals pearls and a Lamborghini, tricks Batman into getting his ass kicked, goes to jail, has a bad criminal record . . . BUT, she has a heart of gold.

Catwoman is never really portrayed as an outright villain. Then again, she's not Wonder Woman, Supergirl or Batgirl either.

Point taken, of course... But you do know what I mean. She's never out to kill Batman. She's a support character in the Batman-verse. More Robin than Joker, so to speak.

You know the scene where she's on the Bat-Pod and blows up that stack of cars blocking the tunnel? I just watched her ass the whole time... I knew she was blowing up the barricade, so why should I bother watching another explosion when I could be looking at her butt?

 

[greygoose]

You know the scene where she's on the Bat-Pod and blows up that stack of cars blocking the tunnel? I just watched her ass the whole time... I knew she was blowing up the barricade, so why should I bother watching another explosion when I could be looking at her butt?