Who actually liked 95' Batman Forever?

[Solidus]

I liked it when I was a kid, but now I realize that the movie was just garbage. The only good thing to come out of it was that song from Seal (and that's not speaking a lot).

 

[DiFabio]

Every Batman film needs to be srs bizness.

 

[Solidus]

Every Batman film needs to be srs bizness.

No, far from it. But, you've got to admit that Jim Carrey's portrayal of the Riddler was some pretty bad acting, along with Tommy Lee Jone's maniacal laughing Two-Face. Unlike the Burton and Nolan renditions of Batman, Schumacher's films just didn't cut it. Didn't he even apologize for making one of the films?

 

[steveo]

I didn't care much for it when it came out, but after subsequent viewings, I HATE it! Never been a fan of Kilmer or Kidman and Carrey's performance just grates on my nerves. Jones' Two Face was too much like Nicholson's Joker. The cheesy dialogue helps make it terrible. The only saving graces new to that film was O'Donnell as Robin and the soundtrack/score.

 

[DiFabio]

No, far from it. But, you've got to admit that Jim Carrey's portrayal of the Riddler was some pretty bad acting, along with Tommy Lee Jone's maniacal laughing Two-Face. Unlike the Burton and Nolan renditions of Batman, Schumacher's films just didn't cut it. Didn't he even apologize for making one of the films?

Eh, I don't know. I'm sorry but I don't see Batman Forever as some sort of travesty. I mean, yeah, it isn't high art or in the same league as the Burton and Nolan films, but I think it did it's job as a summer blockbuster popcorn flick. It's easy to go back and criticize it but at the time, nobody gave a ____ and nobody thought it was crap.

The Jim Carrey Riddler doesn't bother me one bit, in fact and I don't think it's bad acting at all. He basically played the Frank Gorshin Riddler on acid. The guy was a ____ing green maniac with this massive obsession for Bruce Wayne (possibly homosexual, hurm). Two-Face was just as zany. The role didn't call for that tragic, split personality. Jones did exactly what was called for, an over the top, comic book villain. Yeah, I prefer the darker, serious versions of the character, but I don't mind Two-Face in this one. He reminds me of a two-faced loki gremlin or something.

The brain drain device, to me, was like cocaine. Riddler and Two-Face were these hyper villains that were on cloud 9, ____ing ____ up. In fact, I think the combination of the two works for the film actually. Possibly the best villain team up in a comic book film.

 

[Batfreak]

No, far from it. But, you've got to admit that Jim Carrey's portrayal of the Riddler was some pretty bad acting, along with Tommy Lee Jone's maniacal laughing Two-Face?

hmmm interesting.....those are actually the very things ABOUT the movie that i like! did anyone expect oscar nominations for a comic book movie? jim carrey was doing something like frank gorshin and tommy lee jones was just awsome and crazy. TLJ dances circles around ekhart, who came and went so quickly everyone practically forgot about twoface in TDK. and schumacher aplogized for batman & robin, NOT Forever. because unlike B&R, people actually liked batman forever. also batman forever was i think the top money maker of '95, and was a damn successful film for its time.

seriously. get off the high horse. these films are meant to be fun and entertaining, or least thats what they USED to be, unlike the new ones that are just serious. for the sheer entertainment factor, Batman Forever trumps anything in BB or TDK.

 

[Ex-Parrot]

I honestly think this is every bit as horrible as Batman & Robin was.

Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones were every bit as awful and over the top as Schwarzenegger and Thurman were, Kilmer was just as ineffective as Clooney, O'Donnell has always sucked in pretty much everything, and proves that fact both times out, same writer (Goldsman) and director (Schumacher) for both films doing the same degree of awful work with characters and a universe that they clearly don't understand or much respect, lead actress (Kidman in BF, Silverstone in B&R) hamming it up and phoning in because, well _____, it's just a 'comicbook movie' anyway so who cares. And only Michael Gough as Alfred providing any class to the proceedings whatsoever, and even he is saddled with some cringe inducing dialogue that he still does his best to make work.

Same horrible film experience split over two outings in my opinion. Frankly amazed to see the level of support the film has, but hey, to each their own.

 

[Batfreak]

actually batman forever was a pretty solid well made 90's batman movie. batman & robin is where it all started to suck, but to say BF sucks, well then you must not have seen very many movies cuz theres alot of movies that are far far worse if not downright terrible whereas batman forever has all the ingredients of a blockbuster.


i think this board is filled with some very jaded and/or cynical "adults" who cant enjoy a good old fashioned action film like batman forever, or even the new indiana jones. if it doesnt have some kinda adult "theme" or loaded with blood and guts, suddenly it sucks? a movie geared more for kids that adults can also enjoy is a bad thing nowadays? yeesh. its not the film that is at fault, but the people on this board. i notice theres a lot of bashing of the older batfilms around here. pretty unfair. batman forever is a film that is neither here nor there. its not a terrible film, but its not that great either. its just kinda "ok". for me i think its above average batman film, for others its pretty ok. i think Returns gets alot for flack for being so dark and twisted.

 

[EVILFACE]

Forever is a fun Batman movie. Not everything needs to be gritty serious business. There were some "Batman" movies already made like that. And as much as I like what Nolan has done, I hope the next set of movies is nothing like it. Balls the wall comic book action and sillyness. Just like the junk Marvel is spewing. Sure they aren't great films, but they are fun.

Oh and if this figure was cheaper, it would be on my shelf.

 

[Batfreak]

I hope the next set of movies is nothing like it. Balls the wall comic book action and sillyness. Just like the junk Marvel is spewing. Sure they aren't great films, but they are fun.
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as much as i cant stand the marvel characters, i will admit that they are defiently fun movies. the only thing i dont like about them is the overuse of CGI in almost all the movies. i grew up primarily with batman movies and superman movies, so naturally my interests are more towards those 2. the marvel stuff.....its like become superhero overload. just too much cmic book crap! BUT, if they were to make batman in the same fun action packed vein as one of the marvel movies, i would defiently be up for it. a batplane that actually looks like...a batplane! not a transformers/gi joe knockoff. those are the kinds of films i hope we get again.

 

[Apone]

I liked it when I was a kid, but now I realize that the movie was just garbage. The only good thing to come out of it was that song from Seal (and that's not speaking a lot).

Holy crap! That is my least favorite song literally ever recorded..no joke

 

[Apone]

I cant take anyone serious who says Crystal Skull was a good movie and we are all nuts for thinking it stunk. When you make a sequel to a series of films, its your duty to keep it in line with the others. Batman can be different because there were multiple Batmen and directors so obviously they all wanted to do their own take on it. But the Crystal Skull was downright terrible..I will say the first half hour to hour werent bad..i was on board..then it went right in the crapper. Take away the fact it was indiana Jones and you are looking at some garbage flick on the same lines as Journey to the center of the earth or some poorly made and waste of film attempt at entertainment.

 

[Batfreak]

I cant take anyone serious who says Crystal Skull was a good movie and we are all nuts for thinking it stunk.

btw KOTCS did rock and if you dont like it then kiss me A**.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Forever is a fun Batman movie. Balls the wall comic book action and sillyness. Just like the junk Marvel is spewing. Sure they aren't great films, but they are fun.

^These fellas totally agree with you.

The only good thing to come out of it was that song from Seal (and that's not speaking a lot).

Even the 1966 Batman was better than hack Schumacher's toy commercials. Sad, but true.

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[RIDDICK]

The first "batfreak" I'm obliged to put on ignore. What a cruel world, oh man...

 

[Bardoon]

Loved the movie when it came out. It was awesome.

I actually think the casting for this movie was extremely well done, it's just the whole cartoony, "appeal to the kids" approach that changed the way the characters were portrayed.

Kilmer was a great Wayne, probably slightly better than Michael Keaton as Kilmer was good at keeping that stoic, mystery vibe around him. He had this "brooding" sense around his Batman.

O'Donnell, good casting and actor...a solid Robin.

Carrey was great casting as Riddler, but once again, the movie approach wanted him to basically be his Mask/Ace Ventura-self AS The Riddler. That sort of made his the wacky villain.

Which then left a great actor in Tommy Lee Jones as a goofy Two-Face!!! He should've been more serious as a contrasting foil to Riddler's goofiness but as the movie wore on they made his just as goofy as Riddler.

I'll give credit to Joel Schmaucher for this. The scenes and vibrant costumes DID stand out and at the time, they were pretty cool (and at the time I didn't know Schmaucher was gay). But as time wore on you could see his little flashes of homosexuality flamboyance all over the film, Bat-nipples, the butt shot, etc. and the direction of making it a corny "family-friendly" film really dampened the Dark Knight into the abomination that was "Batman & Robin".

 

[Batfreak]

bardoon = only poster here so far who has made any sense on this thread. well said bro! give props to those who deserve, even schumacher. there not perfect films, but who said they had to be? give credit where credit is due. joel did a great job on Forever. too bad it didnt go well on the next one. also schumachers films are the only films to have the nightmareish arkham assylum done right.

i do agree that even though twoface at first was kinda sinister and came off as a real threat to bats, by the time riddler and him were teamed up, he became more goofy but at times he is still more of a threat cuz he was gonna shoot wayne until riddler stopped him.

gullyfoles post is just flat out immaturity at its finest.

 

[Ex-Parrot]

actually batman forever was a pretty solid well made 90's batman movie. batman & robin is where it all started to suck, but to say BF sucks, well then you must not have seen very many movies cuz theres alot of movies that are far far worse if not downright terrible whereas batman forever has all the ingredients of a blockbuster.


i think this board is filled with some very jaded and/or cynical "adults" who cant enjoy a good old fashioned action film like batman forever, or even the new indiana jones. if it doesnt have some kinda adult "theme" or loaded with blood and guts, suddenly it sucks? a movie geared more for kids that adults can also enjoy is a bad thing nowadays? yeesh. its not the film that is at fault, but the people on this board. i notice theres a lot of bashing of the older batfilms around here. pretty unfair. batman forever is a film that is neither here nor there. its not a terrible film, but its not that great either. its just kinda "ok". for me i think its above average batman film, for others its pretty ok. i think Returns gets alot for flack for being so dark and twisted.

You're perfectly entitled to like whatever you like, to whatever degree you like, but that still doesn't make your opinion fact to be lorded down onto others from on high, and frankly you're coming off like a bit of an ass for insulting me and others just for having and sharing a different view.

I also think you are drawing a pretty long bow to assume that just because we may not like a certain film that you do that means we must all automatically be cynical a-holes that hate everything without reason. Pretty insulting really, and a lazy way to try to undermine the opinions of other people just because they think different than you do about something. Speaking personally, I have my reasons, and stated many of them, and while you don't have to agree with them, and that's perfectly fine, trying to diminish them in such a way is a pretty cheap shot in my opinion, that only reflects poorly on you and undermines anything else that you may have to say.

I never insulted anybody, all I did was give my own personal opinion. Be nice if certain others could do likewise when debating and discussing such matters, regardless of whether they happen to agree or disagree. Otherwise it's not much fun even getting into discussions like this to begin with. Oh well, whatever I guess...

 

[Batfreak]

i also did not insult anyone and i gave MY own personal opinion as well. if you dont like it well tough deal with it. thats the internet. your right my opinion is not fact but if you and others gonna be all up in my face cuz you happen to disagree with me sayin that you "cant take me seriously" well too bad then, guess i cant take you seriously either. i think its time to call it a day with this crap but i feel there are way too many "haters" on here and i really find that irritating to have to constantly defend my opinions. its just pointless after a while, haters gonna hate.

 

[DarklyDreaming]

If you're idea of not insulting anyone is by telling them if they don't think KOTCS rocks that they can kiss your @$$, then you are truly showing the range of your maturity