X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
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twistedfreak
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The CGI was awful.
Peter Parker vs New Goblin fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmbtYr-47O0
Man, that is painful to watch. I think a lot of the CG in LOTR was even better.
Black Spidey vs Sandman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL2HhkpyBBE
While not quite as bad as the above scene, this one still reeks of bad CG.
Bad CG in a bad movie.
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One of my favorite superhero action/fight scenes has always been the final fight between Spider-Man and the Green Goblin in the first Spider-Man movie. It's one of the few fights where the hero gets completely thrashed by the villain. It all looks and feels real too with minimal CGI. I dig the mix of slow mo and real time and Raimi's classic editing. It always felt like a real fight without excessive choreography or wire work. Just two guys beating the **** out of each other.
I think I've mentioned this before (maybe in one of the old ASM or ASM2 threads), but I remember when Spidey is getting his face smashed in, a mom took her kids and left that showing.
I think I've mentioned this before (maybe in one of the old ASM or ASM2 threads), but I remember when Spidey is getting his face smashed in, a mom took her kids and left that showing.
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The slow motion explosion to the face was awesome. It looked real.
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Doesn't look that bad for a movie almost a decade old, hell, Spiderman and Black Panther didn't really hold up CGI wise in CW by today's standards in my opinion.
Agreed
Agreed, and the ending of that scene was the cherry on top.
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Xmen, raimi spiderman , and blade , (even hell boy ) is an era I will forever miss in comic book movies. Those are the things that got me into this, the style and execution. If I was young now I don't even know if I'd be into these
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Hmmm...I think First Class had some of the best action in any of the X-Men films. Well I should say...Magneto did.
From that bar scene to him charging into that villa and then how he killed Shaw...that was exciting, set a strong tone and was cleverly choreographed. Nightcrawler scene was great as well.
I know the movie and character sucks but I thought the final fight in wolverine origins was cool. I haven't watched it in years it might be fake looking but the martial artist who played deadpool was a beast.
Those were the best x-men action scenes imo.
For Spider-man I only think the Doc Ock fight I'd put high on all-time marvel fight list. I mean it looked cgi but it was well choreographed and it actually showed what spider-man is more physically capable of in battle way more so than the goblin fight.
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From that bar scene to him charging into that villa and then how he killed Shaw...that was exciting, set a strong tone and was cleverly choreographed. Nightcrawler scene was great as well.
I know the movie and character sucks but I thought the final fight in wolverine origins was cool. I haven't watched it in years it might be fake looking but the martial artist who played deadpool was a beast.
Those were the best x-men action scenes imo.
For Spider-man I only think the Doc Ock fight I'd put high on all-time marvel fight list. I mean it looked cgi but it was well choreographed and it actually showed what spider-man is more physically capable of in battle way more so than the goblin fight.
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twistedfreak
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I get a big "Hey, that looks pretty fake and bad" vibe which takes me out of the movie. It all just looks like a video game to me with poor graffics. I agree that the CGI on Spidey in CW didn't hold up. I'll give you that. I thought Black Panther was done well though.
twistedfreak
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You are so right. Looks like early 2000's video game effects. Eh, one thing is for sure, Spider Man was among the first CBM's that helped to get us to where we're at now. Look at how far we have come and all the characters we get to see on the silver screen. Yeah a lot of the movies have not been great or even good, but we have gotten some solid flicks out of all the various studios. Pretty awesome stuff IMO.
Man, all the folks at both the CW thread and this thread are talking about are the fight scenes. The DC fraction proclaims their action better (and treats it as fact), and the Fox-Men fraction proclaims their action is better (and treats it as fact). But hey, the MCU is getting trashed in both threads, so I guess there's a constant amongst the sea of opinions...
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So it's ok for MCU fans to proclaim their action better (and treat is as fact)?
x-men have been weak....
cmiller99
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Yarp.
If you want to make an action movie that holds up over the years, make a movie with a good story and without CGI, matte paintings, separation overlay, studio sets for outdoor areas, or too many miniatures.
In other words, make First Blood.
I think the problem with something 'dating' is where the movie is style over substance. Style dates, substance usually doesn't, so it becomes more noticeable when your movie is brainless fluff. Thus certain CG fest blockbusters from recent years will be considered hokum in years to come.
Yeah, I was also going to bring up some action stuff from the '70s and '80s as not looking dated at all. Freaking Predator! Looks more "realistic" than any comic book movie, and it came out in 1987. But they weren't as over the top, and when you got to more fantastic stuff like the Alien Queen from Aliens or massive nuclear-type explosions, of course that stuff does look better nowadays. Not withstanding the Final Countdown, which is still the high water mark.
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Blade 1, Spiderman 2, X2...all have great action no question about it.
All i'm saying is that TWS/CW belong alongside them because these 2 movies have taken the advances of stunt work and cgi and given us an evolution of the superhero battles just like those other movies did in their time.
We all expect Superheroes to be Super.
I agree with Gaspar, the brutality aspect has also helped with the modern stuff.
All i'm saying is that TWS/CW belong alongside them because these 2 movies have taken the advances of stunt work and cgi and given us an evolution of the superhero battles just like those other movies did in their time.
We all expect Superheroes to be Super.
I agree with Gaspar, the brutality aspect has also helped with the modern stuff.
i always hate how much quick cuts captain america winter soldier had in action scenes, makes me dizzy and distracts me,
seems like civil war has the same amount of cutting? i hate that (im surprised none of the critics ever get mad at that )
seems like civil war has the same amount of cutting? i hate that (im surprised none of the critics ever get mad at that )
jye4ever
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Yeah, I was also going to bring up some action stuff from the '70s and '80s as not looking dated at all. Freaking Predator! Looks more "realistic" than any comic book movie, and it came out in 1987. But they weren't as over the top, and when you got to more fantastic stuff like the Alien Queen from Aliens or massive nuclear-type explosions, of course that stuff does look better nowadays. Not withstanding the Final Countdown, which is still the high water mark.
But I do expect a super soldier to be alot more agile than Dutch, Hicks, Mclane and Indy.
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