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That's disturbing...

Kevin Feige's reaction to the Transformers 3 trailer in 2011:



Kevin Feige on when he'll hire Michael Bay to direct an MCU movie:



Five years later and the MCU has gone full-on Bayformers.

I don't see any racist undertones, booty shots, pedos or testicles hanging from Cap's truck. Having lots of CGI ain't akin to Transformers. Hell, if that's your criteria for classifying something as a "TF" movie, then BvS should've broken the meter!

-Explosions? Check.
-Tons of CGI? Check.
-Instances where you can't understand what's going on due to the CGI? Check.

Which, again, is stretching, but I really don't see how CW is a Transformers movie. But eh, to each his own. If you don't like the MCU that's fair enough, but please, don't call the ones who do "mindless drones". We're just folks with a different taste, simple as that. There's no one single, universaly accepted "truth"...

And besides, Bay isn't an awful director. He has just found a niche and stuck with that. If the TF movies bring you billions, why stop maing the same exact thing? He's no artist, but he's certainly not as bad as the internet makes him out to be.
 
That's disturbing...



I don't see any racist undertones, booty shots, pedos or testicles hanging from Cap's truck. Having lots of CGI ain't akin to Transformers. Hell, if that's your criteria for classifying something as a "TF" movie, then BvS should've broken the meter!

-Explosions? Check.
-Tons of CGI? Check.
-Instances where you can't understand what's going on due to the CGI? Check.

Which, again, is stretching, but I really don't see how CW is a Transformers movie. But eh, to each his own. If you don't like the MCU that's fair enough, but please, don't call the ones who do "mindless drones". We're just folks with a different taste, simple as that. There's no one single, universaly accepted "truth"...

And besides, Bay isn't an awful director. He has just found a niche and stuck with that. If the TF movies bring you billions, why stop maing the same exact thing? He's no artist, but he's certainly not as bad as the internet makes him out to be.

Yeah, Bay is tailor-made for the MCU.
 
Yea mcu is nothing like transformers at all. Call it that once hulk has a full on boner for black widow in a scene.
 
Yea mcu is nothing like transformers at all. Call it that once hulk has a full on boner for black widow in a scene.

dont even bother, SNIKT1950 is just trying to rile everyone up in here with that statement. is not a serious statement.
 
I give Snyder credit for making his super heroes/villains, move the way they are supposed to, fast/blur. I hated the wire work seen in this movie, especially when legs get propped up. Slow-mo in my opinion makes defects in cgi show faster than watching it fast.
 
Without reading any of the posts here, I've seen that the preliminary data shows that critics are mostly split on this movie while the majority of movie goers (fans) are digging it.

So for a comic book enthusiast such as myself, I guess I'll be somewhere in the middle of that. Lol.


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Not really sure what to think of this film. The usual stuff that was good remained good like fassneto, McAvoy, quicksilver's scene. While apocalypse and all the "new" characters were pretty flat and boring.

Overall, wasn't awful but I also didn't feel the need to see it a 2nd time the way most of these comic book films make me want to do. Even bvs I saw twice in theaters.
 
Ah man, people bashing Hugh Jackman now? You guys are killing me :lol

Jackman as Wolverine acting wise, absolutely smokes any actor in the MCU. This isn't like the Jennifer Lawrence situation where she's miscast and does a poor acting job in the role, Jackman's Wolverine is more relatable, tame, and yes, he's tall but his acting is so good it overshadows all of that.






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Ah man, people bashing Hugh Jackman now? You guys are killing me :lol

Jackman as Wolverine acting wise, absolutely smokes any actor in the MCU. This isn't like the Jennifer Lawrence situation where she's miscast and does a poor acting job in the role, Jackman's Wolverine is more relatable, tame, and yes, he's tall but his acting is so good it overshadows all of that.






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Come on, I like Jackman a whole ****ing lot, but come on... You mean to tell me that not Charlie Cox, not Kristen Ritter, not Vincent D'onofrio, not Evans, not RDJ, not Boseman, not Bernthal did as good a job as him? I mean, come on... If you mentioned Fassbender or Stewart or McKellen, sure, yeah, they're above the majority of the MCU actors. But Jackman simply didn't have a good enough script to really elevate his character. In "Prisoners" he really showed his acting chops, but I can't say the Fox-Men movies have given him anything grand to really work with. Bernthal absolutely wrecked it as Frank, and the only one I put next to him is Fassbender. But that's just my personal opinion, as is everything else here...
 
Come on, I like Jackman a whole ****ing lot, but come on... You mean to tell me that not Charlie Cox, not Kristen Ritter, not Vincent D'onofrio, not Evans, not RDJ, not Boseman, not Bernthal did as good a job as him? I mean, come on... If you mentioned Fassbender or Stewart or McKellen, sure, yeah, they're above the majority of the MCU actors. But Jackman simply didn't have a good enough script to really elevate his character. In "Prisoners" he really showed his acting chops, but I can't say the Fox-Men movies have given him anything grand to really work with. Bernthal absolutely wrecked it as Frank, and the only one I put next to him is Fassbender. But that's just my personal opinion, as is everything else here...

I think I said this before but I don't count the Netflix shows as part of the MCU, but even still Jackman easily gives better performances than everyone you named, Fassbender included. How isn't X2 or DOFP a great script to work with?

People forget that Fassbender dropped his accent about half way into FC, Jackman has been Wolverine for almost two decades and I can't find one scene he broke accent. I like Bernthal as Frank Castle, but nowhere near as good as Jackman is X2 and DOFP and I'll be honest, he seemed to be a more extreme Shane, he brought the head bobble and slight southern accent to Frank Castle, Charlie Cox does a much better job in my opinion and is definitely in my top 5 best performers ever as a superhero, but his accent breaks way too often.

Downey has mostly been horrible as Tony in my opinion, and the people calling out Jackman's Wolverine for being different than the comics should do the same with Downey as Iron Man. Boseman was cool as BP, we really don't have much to go on yet whether he's great or not. D'onofrio was extremely campy in the first season,and felt out of place in my opinion, but he did a better job in season 2, and Evans is very likable, but as an actor he's average at best.




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I think I said this before but I don't count the Netflix shows as part of the MCU, but even still Jackman easily gives better performances than everyone you named, Fassbender included. How isn't X2 or DOFP a great script to work with?

Yeah, well, thing is, they are. They're part of the MCU so... Even then, I never remember Wolverine having any particularly challenging scenes. It's usually:

-Be bad-ass.
-Do bad-ass things.
-Scream a bit.
-Be bad-ass again.
-Lose your memory.
-Be bad-ass again.

Sure, there are exceptions like the part he comforts Rogue, but he had waaaaaay better scenes in "The Wolverine". More emotional, more demanding, more challenging for Jackman to pull off. And he did, IMO.

People forget that Fassbender dropped his accent about half way into FC, Jackman has been Wolverine for almost two decades and I can't find one scene he broke accent.

Eh, I don't look for accents that much, I care about the general performance. And besides, if you're gonna go around killing Nazis and being a fugitive, it makes sense to drop your accent. Or maybe he just became part of the new environment. People lose their accents all the time after prolonged exposure.

I like Bernthal as Frank Castle, but nowhere near as good as Jackman is X2 and DOFP and I'll be honest, he seemed to be a more extreme Shane, he brought the head bobble and slight southern accent to Frank Castle, Charlie Cox does a much better job in my opinion and is definitely in my top 5 best performers ever as a superhero, but his accent breaks way too often.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to dissagree on the Bernthal part. A lot. A whole lot...

Downey has mostly been horrible as Tony in my opinion, and the people calling out Jackman's Wolverine for being different than the comics should do the same with Downey as Iron Man.

Um, what? Downey IS Iron Man. He's narcissistic, an egomaniac, doesn't realize his mistakes until it's too late, he's a party-man, he cares about people but he's got a difficult time showing it, everything from comic book Iron Man is there. No matter the run you pick, be it the Fraction one, the Ellis one, the SHIELD Director one, you'll find the same exact Tony. Sure, in the past he was a bit more brooding, but he's been that way for close to 2 decades now.

Wolverine was always a short murderer with animal insticts, yet a code of honour, who slowly learned to be human again. That's character progression. Fox-Verine has been the same likeable, albeit a bit gruff guy from the beginning. Comic Book Wolverine behaved more like an animal than a man at times, and he still does. Or did. The X-Men helped him find his very humanity again, which hasn't really been shown thus far in the Fox-Men films, at least IMO...

Boseman was cool as BP, we really don't have much to go on yet whether he's great or not.

He kept his accent though...

D'onofrio was extremely campy in the first season,and felt out of place in my opinion, but he did a better job in season 2,

He was a bullied kid who butchered his father. Of course he's gonna be an emotional mess. D'onofrio managed to show us a wounded, feral, intellectual and primal Fisk all at once. I don't see the campiness anywhere.

and Evans is very likable, but as an actor he's average at best.

He plays Cap perfectly. He's kept all the best qualities of the character without turning into a parody. He could've just been Ultimate Cap, but he evokes the very essence of who Steve Rogers is. And that's no small feat. It's tough being the perfect boy scout and still being an interesting character.

And sure, he's not the best actor around, but his portrayal of Rogers is one of the best adaptations around. Besides, he was great in boh Snowpiercer and Sunshine.
 
Yeah, well, thing is, they are. They're part of the MCU so... Even then, I never remember Wolverine having any particularly challenging scenes. It's usually:

-Be bad-ass.
-Do bad-ass things.
-Scream a bit.
-Be bad-ass again.
-Lose your memory.
-Be bad-ass again.

Sure, there are exceptions like the part he comforts Rogue, but he had waaaaaay better scenes in "The Wolverine". More emotional, more demanding, more challenging for Jackman to pull off. And he did, IMO.



Eh, I don't look for accents that much, I care about the general performance. And besides, if you're gonna go around killing Nazis and being a fugitive, it makes sense to drop your accent. Or maybe he just became part of the new environment. People lose their accents all the time after prolonged exposure.



Yeah, I'm gonna have to dissagree on the Bernthal part. A lot. A whole lot...



Um, what? Downey IS Iron Man. He's narcissistic, an egomaniac, doesn't realize his mistakes until it's too late, he's a party-man, he cares about people but he's got a difficult time showing it, everything from comic book Iron Man is there. No matter the run you pick, be it the Fraction one, the Ellis one, the SHIELD Director one, you'll find the same exact Tony. Sure, in the past he was a bit more brooding, but he's been that way for close to 2 decades now.

Wolverine was always a short murderer with animal insticts, yet a code of honour, who slowly learned to be human again. That's character progression. Fox-Verine has been the same likeable, albeit a bit gruff guy from the beginning. Comic Book Wolverine behaved more like an animal than a man at times, and he still does. Or did. The X-Men helped him find his very humanity again, which hasn't really been shown thus far in the Fox-Men films, at least IMO...



He kept his accent though...



He was a bullied kid who butchered his father. Of course he's gonna be an emotional mess. D'onofrio managed to show us a wounded, feral, intellectual and primal Fisk all at once. I don't see the campiness anywhere.



He plays Cap perfectly. He's kept all the best qualities of the character without turning into a parody. He could've just been Ultimate Cap, but he evokes the very essence of who Steve Rogers is. And that's no small feat. It's tough being the perfect boy scout and still being an interesting character.

And sure, he's not the best actor around, but his portrayal of Rogers is one of the best adaptations around. Besides, he was great in boh Snowpiercer and Sunshine.

I think you need to watch X2 and DOFP again. Jackman definitely doesn't act like a badass throughout both of those movies, X1 he does though.

Nah, in FC, Fassneto literally has a Scottish accent for the entire 3rd act dropping accent had nothing to do with the he story :lol

That's fine, but he definitely didn't have a NY accent, and was bobbing his head like crazy. Still though, if you do count the Netflix shows as part of the MCU then he easily gives the second best performance in the entire MCU, Cox is on another level compared to everyone else though.

Downey's Iron Man is written better than he's performed. Now I'm no comic expert, but I don't remember Stark ever being that sarcastic or that humorous. Downey is more or less just playing himself and even Ad-libs most of his scenes. It's rare he ever makes comment that isn't sarcastic or a joke. Most of the Stark's inner demons they totally skimmed over because those movies are family friendly.

Regarding D'onofrio it's the same thing for me, he's written better than he's performed, he is was way too over the top and cringeworthy in most of his scenes. He gave a more subdued performance in the second season though.

Once again, I think Cap is written better than he's performed, I can't think of one stand out scene Evans has as Cap that doesn't involve action. To me, his best performance was in the incredible average first film, before he actually transformed. He lacks screen presence and never truly sells the whole leadership quality that Cap is known for.

Boseman barely spoke and actually still broke accent, mainly in the scene with him and Zemo speaking.


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I think you need to watch X2 and DOFP again. Jackman definitely doesn't act like a badass throughout both of those movies, X1 he does though.

Nah, in FC, Fassneto literally has a Scottish accent for the entire 3rd act dropping accent had nothing to do with the he story :lol

That's fine, but he definitely didn't have a NY accent, and was bobbing his head like crazy. Still though, if you do count the Netflix shows as part of the MCU then he easily gives the second best performance in the entire MCU, Cox is on another level compared to everyone else though.

Downey's Iron Man is written better than he's performed. Now I'm no comic expert, but I don't remember Stark ever being that sarcastic or that humorous. Downey is more or less just playing himself and even Ad-libs most of his scenes. It's rare he ever makes comment that isn't sarcastic or a joke. Most of the Stark's inner demons they totally skimmed over because those movies are family friendly.

Regarding D'onofrio it's the same thing for me, he's written better than he's performed, he is was way too over the top and cringeworthy in most of his scenes. He gave a more subdued performance in the second season though.

Once again, I think Cap is written better than he's performed, I can't think of one stand out scene Evans has as Cap that doesn't involve action. To me, his best performance was in the incredible average first film, beige he actually transformed.

Boseman barely spoke and actually still broke accent, mainly in the scene with him and Zemo speaking.


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Eh, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree then, as I can't find any common ground with your views. Which is okay, there's no objective truth, we like what we like, there's no "correct" answer. :duff
 
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