X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

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Does the hate for this movie come from inconsistencies between the movie and the comic? Im not a comic book reader so i wouldnt know. Personally, I have watched it twice, and I think the movie is fine. Not great, but better than X3 and First Class.

I'd rank the X Men movies in this order...

DOFP
X2
X1
Apoc
FC
X3
 
From what I've seen here, the main criticisms are that Apocalypse looks dumb, the end fight is silly, Psylocke sucks, and Magneto keeps doing the same **** in every movie. I think all those are a bit overblown, except the Psylocke one. My own main criticism is that it isn't focused enough, and tries to do too much at the expense of giving us a more efficient and fulfilling narrative. But it is about on par with most of the Marvel Studios movies to me (but better because it's the ****ing X-Men), and much better than any of the WB stuff.

My ranking would probably be:

X2
DOFP
FC
X1/Apoc
Deadpool
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The Wolverine
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.Wolvie: Origins/X3
 
I think they ****ed up big-time with what they did with Magneto in the film. So much so that even going DOFP on its ass would make no difference. Skynet needs to wipe out its entire existence!
 
Singer's handling of Magneto's redemption was masterful and it really shows how badly it was done in Return of the Jedi. To think that all Luke had to do was go, "Dad, stop being evil, let's go build a house!" Done.
 
I don't know if we should use Star Wars as the gold standard for comparative purposes, though. Guy facilitates the death of millions, and makes life terrible for countless more by supporting a brutal authoritarian dictatorship, but later on throws his evil overlord down a shaft to save his son, and as a result gets to live for eternity as a happy force ghost. . .not that different from Magneto's arc, actually!
 
My main problem with the movie is that almost everyone's motivation seems forced or lacks explanation. The movie just felt pointless, and felt like it was made to just set up the younger X-Men and bring closure to the FC character but it failed at doing both in my opinion. I think DOFP was just a perfect ending for this franchise, if they wanted to continue, they should have went back with the OT characters. Or, if they wanted to show off the changed past, then Magneto and Mystique really should have sat this movie out, and it should have been just about Prof X recruiting the X-Men, and really developing the younger characters.


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Well there's redemption of an eternal soul which typically doesn't require the redeemed to make full amends for every wrong doing on a 1:1 basis vs. living happily ever after in the natural world among the screams of those mourning their dead while you grill burgers and high five the few people you didn't kill.
 
Well there's redemption of an eternal soul which typically doesn't require the redeemed to make full amends for every wrong doing on a 1:1 basis vs. living happily ever after in the natural world among the screams of those mourning their dead while you grill burgers and high five the few people you didn't kill.
Well imagine if Vader somehow lived. Would he not have been dancing with the Ewoks at the end of Jedi? Do you think they would have put him in jail?
 
Well the nice thing is that since George conveniently killed him off I'm free to assume whatever I want rather than lament a poor decision realized on screen. :) While it's amusing to imagine the most awkward victory celebration of all time with Vader showing up and dancing badly with everyone else as if nothing was wrong I prefer to assume that had he survived he most likely would have been tried and executed for his crimes against the galaxy.
 
Just saw the film. It's not as good as First Class and DOFP or X2, but it's up there with X1.

7/10 (As a comic book movie)

It's not a great film, and Apoc looks lame, but he's a better antagonist than most of the MCU villains...and MOS Zod and Enchantress in SS.

I know the hand to hand combat action in the X MEN films is not great, but the display of powers in this film is as comic book as it gets and more impressive in terms of how powerful the characters are than anything in the MCU or DCEU (so far). Apoc fighting multiple X MEN while mentally battling Xavier and Jean is great.

It's actually cool to see powerful comic characters be powerful on film even if it takes using too much crappy CGI. I hope Thanos can live up to X Men Apocalypse.
 
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