Your Favorite "Batman" movie

[CelticPredator]

See, I really noticed which film I loved more during the trilogy screening. I watched Batman Begins, and it just grabs me, everytime. Never felt like it drags, has perfect pacing, and outside of really terrible action, it works on almost every level as a film.

When it ended, I got excited for TDK.

And then the final act happens. I know it only takes about 10 or so minutes in the film, but when the Ferrie stuff comes on, it just feels like a huge stopping point for me now. The movie ends up dragging a bit more, and doesn't have the same effect it did 5 years ago. It's still a great movie...but it just drags toward the end, and for me, loses it's super flair.


Subjectivity!

 

[krec9]

BB for me .

 

[DiFabio]

It really was. I felt the same exact feeling. My mind was going ape **** at the thought.

Nolan didn't disappoint. But Heath sure did.

Ledger is one of the reasons I prefer TDK over Begins. Actually, Ledger as the Joker IS the reason. That Bank Robbery prologue and just about every scene containing the Joker is gold, especially the interrogation.

I do prefer Batman/Bruce in Begins though and I really do enjoy seeing the origin story. If I had to base it purely on Batman characterization, and not what I enjoy seeing overall, Begins would probably win it out (though, I do love the uncharacteristic Keaton Batman with his mysteriousness and brooding) it was great seeing a new origin that actually focused on how Batman came to be. It showed his training whereas the other films were more fill in the blank and it's mostly implied. I also prefer Gary Oldman's Lt. Gordon to how he appears in TDK and TDKR. He really felt like the only good cop left in the city. Liam Neeson as Ra's can't be beat either. I also loved the comic influenced scenes, mostly from Year One.

Only reason I put TDK and '89 Batman ahead of it is because of the nature and dynamic of "Batman vs. Joker". I don't think any of the villains top the two Jokers in any of the films. Those have always been my favorite stories and images. The Dark Knight vs. The Clown Prince of Crime. It's a bit biased but those tend to be my favorite parts of the universe because Batman and the Joker are the complete antithesis of each other. Other than a great origin (which Batman Begins most certainly has), TDK and '89 have everything for me. Batman going up against the Joker, the key players (Dent, Alfred etc.), etc.

 

[Niltusk]

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Ledger is one of the reasons I prefer TDK over Begins. Actually, Ledger as the Joker IS the reason. That Bank Robbery prologue and just about every scene containing the Joker is gold, especially the interrogation.

I do prefer Batman/Bruce in Begins though and I really do enjoy seeing the origin story. If I had to base it purely on Batman characterization, and not what I enjoy seeing, Begins would probably win it out (though, I do love the uncharacteristic Keaton Batman with his mysteriousness and brooding) it was great seeing a new origin that actually focused on how Batman came to be. It showed his training whereas the other films were more fill in the blank and it's mostly implied. I also prefer Gary Oldman's Lt. Gordon to how he appears in TDK and TDKR. He really felt like the only good cop left in the city. Liam Neeson as Ra's can't be beat either. I also loved the comic influenced scenes, mostly from Year One.

Only reason I put TDK and '89 Batman ahead of it is because of the nature of "Batman vs. Joker". I don't think any of the villains top the two Jokers in any of the films. Those have always been my favorite stories and images. The Dark Knight vs. The Clown Prince of Crime. It's a bit biased but those tend to be my favorite parts of the universe because Batman and the Joker are the complete antithesis of each other. Other than a great origin (which Batman Begins most certainly has), TDK and '89 have everything for me. Batman going up against the Joker, the key players (Dent, Alfred etc.), etc.

Nice story, makes sense if you're a huge fan of the Joker and Batman duality, those two obviously are going to have an over the top place for you.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ I meant Ledger disappointed by accidentally killing himself, and thus not continuing the story. It didn't bother me in TDKR like it did for most people, but it did bother me when he did die.

 

[DiFabio]

^ I meant Ledger disappointed by accidentally killing himself, and thus not continuing the story.

I figured that's what you meant but I didn't want to assume.

 

[CelticPredator]

.......but now I can't use the "ass out of you and me." line.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

^ I meant Ledger disappointed by accidentally killing himself, and thus not continuing the story. It didn't bother me in TDKR like it did for most people, but it did bother me when he did die.

The Joker absence in TDKR didn't bother me much either.

I've only seen TDKR once. It may end up being a sleeper in this for me. It has a satisfying continuation of the Wayne story arc -- which TDK was missing. It also has a solid set of villains -- which Begins was missing. Points deducted for the absence of a Batmobile, and for the lesser batsuit. Points added for the best fight scene of the trilogy.

I'll need to see it a time or two more ... but, while not as good as Begins or TDK on their strengths, it is much better on their weaknesses. TDKR felt more like a direct continuation of Begins. Begins and TDKR together make an interesting set. TDK felt more like a standalone.

SnakeDoc

 

[intothevoid]

For me

BB is the perfect origin story - my main complaint is the cheese factor in the final act.
TDKR is the perfect ending - my main complaint is parts of it feel rushed. And Talia death scene.

TDK is the perfect dive into the Batman/Joker relationship but ultimately loses points for me because of the rushed Two Face arc. I LOVE Two Face, 2nd favourite Bat villain behind Joker, and I thought Eckhart played the part brilliantly, but I think they could have delved quite a bit deeper into that story.

 

[karamazov80]

I originally read your post as saying this:

TDK is the perfect diva

and was going to agree

One of my big issues with the Nolan movies are all the liberties he took with the villains. I love the movies, really, and I like what he did with a lot of those characters. They are interesting and entertaining. But apart from Ra's, the characters are pretty unrecognizable from their comic counterparts. And that bugs me. Just like assassin Hawkeye does.

 

[intothevoid]

 

[thenammagazine]

No brainer. Begins.

 

[budafett]

The Dark Knight all day long

 

[a-dev]

For me

BB is the perfect origin story - my main complaint is the cheese factor in the final act.
TDKR is the perfect ending - my main complaint is parts of it feel rushed. And Talia death scene.

TDK is the perfect dive into the Batman/Joker relationship but ultimately loses points for me because of the rushed Two Face arc. I LOVE Two Face, 2nd favourite Bat villain behind Joker, and I thought Eckhart played the part brilliantly, but I think they could have delved quite a bit deeper into that story.

And I wish George Lucas could have told a 'turn to the darkside' story even half as well in 3 films with Anakin as Nolan managed in just one with Harvey Dent.

 

[Prime Clone]

TDK was the Batman film I always wanted. I wanted The Silence of the Lambs in spandex, and I got it. Thanks to Heath Ledger's Joker it was the first time I've been genuinely scared by a movie since Silence of the Lambs. It was a psychological thriller, which Batman should be.

Oddly, now that Nolan has given me the Batman trilogy I always wanted, I feel freer to enjoy Burton's efforts and appreciate them for what we are. We're lucky to have so many different interpretations of the mythos.

 

[Darkseed]

No brainer. Begins.

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[Adolfo]

TDK was the Batman film I always wanted. I wanted The Silence of the Lambs in spandex, and I got it. Thanks to Heath Ledger's Joker it was the first time I've been genuinely scared by a movie since Silence of the Lambs. It was a psychological thriller, which Batman should be.

Oddly, now that Nolan has given me the Batman trilogy I always wanted, I feel freer to enjoy Burton's efforts and appreciate them for what we are. We're lucky to have so many different interpretations of the mythos.

you gotta see " Seven" then

 

[ironwez20]

Gotta love Burton's use of Gotham and batsuits. Also his catwoman is the best catwoman ever put on screen and yes I stand by that statement.

 

[Khev]

TDK was the Batman film I always wanted. I wanted The Silence of the Lambs in spandex, and I got it. Thanks to Heath Ledger's Joker it was the first time I've been genuinely scared by a movie since Silence of the Lambs. It was a psychological thriller, which Batman should be.

Yeah and TDKR gave me the Batman movie I always wanted: True Lies in spandex.

Oddly, now that Nolan has given me the Batman trilogy I always wanted, I feel freer to enjoy Burton's efforts and appreciate them for what we are. We're lucky to have so many different interpretations of the mythos.

I agree. Nolan's films are so good that Burton's and even Schumacher's takes are no longer frustrating "missed opportunities" but rather alternate versions that have their own appeal despite their silliness (or downright awfulness in B&R's case.)

In the same way LOTR took the pressure off the prequels having to be great so I could enjoy them more as well.

 

[Adolfo]

Yeah and TDKR gave me the Batman movie I always wanted: True Lies in spandex.



I agree. Nolan's films are so good that Burton's and even Schumacher's takes are no longer frustrating "missed opportunities" but rather alternate versions that have their own appeal despite their silliness (or downright awfulness in B&R's case.)

In the same way LOTR took the pressure off the prequels having to be great so I could enjoy them more as well.

agreed up to a point...thinking about the Star Wars haters of ep 1,2,3..the earlier films obviously didnt agree about pressure being off...I personally was just happy to see Lucas's vision finally put on screen