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Pre-ordered! This will most likely be the very last Iron Man figure that I ever buy, so I dropped all my reward points on it. Getting this guy for just over $200! :yess:

I think if Tony is done in A4. There will most likely be at least 1 more Iron Man Mark before he goes out.
 
Honestly not a massive fan of this suit. To me Iron man was coolest when the tech behind it almost felt like it could be real. It keeps getting more and more ridiculous, and the breaking point for me came when this was revealed in Infinity War to not even be a real armor that Tony wears, but rather nanotech (aka magic) that Tony just "morphs" into.
 
Honestly not a massive fan of this suit. To me Iron man was coolest when the tech behind it almost felt like it could be real. It keeps getting more and more ridiculous, and the breaking point for me came when this was revealed in Infinity War to not even be a real armor that Tony wears, but rather nanotech (aka magic) that Tony just "morphs" into.

Well it got ridiculous for me when he called his suit and the pieces came flying through the air to him with no means of propulsion in one of the previous movies.
 
That's one of the reasons I think the Mk47 and 46 sort of stand out from the increasing lineups of armors. They're seemingly way more grounded and feel a lot more like the early suits, just Tesla'd up a bit - just as I would expect Tony to do.

That's probably one of the few nits I had with Plack Panther too. I just don't like the style of morphing suit. Really the only time I can suspend disbelief with that sort of thing is for cosmic or magic characters. If it's tech based it's wayyy harder to convince me. But it's a small price to pay, the scenes still look good when they're in use and they have to up the ante to take on pseudoscience like Pym particles and some of the space stuff.
 
Arthur C. Clarke — 'Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.'

Nano tech has long since been in the comics, and is very much so real. Though obviously not at this level yet.
 
That's one of the reasons I think the Mk47 and 46 sort of stand out from the increasing lineups of armors. They're seemingly way more grounded and feel a lot more like the early suits, just Tesla'd up a bit - just as I would expect Tony to do.

That's probably one of the few nits I had with Plack Panther too. I just don't like the style of morphing suit. Really the only time I can suspend disbelief with that sort of thing is for cosmic or magic characters. If it's tech based it's wayyy harder to convince me. But it's a small price to pay, the scenes still look good when they're in use and they have to up the ante to take on pseudoscience like Pym particles and some of the space stuff.

I agree with you 100%. Throughout the entire Black Panther movie I was just like uhh...suuuuure. You possess alien technology, sure, super believable. :cuckoo:
 
Arthur C. Clarke — 'Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.'

Nano tech has long since been in the comics, and is very much so real. Though obviously not at this level yet.
Oh yeah, sure - agreed entirely. No one is calling Stark or T'Challa's work magic though. They played that card with Asgardians to justify their mythical abilities. They justify Strange with "the computer programming of the universe" for lack of a better term.

Stark has been grounded in pseudo-accessible tech. Nanotech is really cool, especially from an aspect of materials science and the forces it can withstand. Some of the current carbon structure work has mind boggling potential. That's the sort of stuff in my mind that can validate Spidey's webshooters, even if he's synthesizing it in a high school lab. But when we start getting into conservation of mass and application of nanotech in Stark's method, it just doesn't stand up. That's why the wristband was cool in Civil War, it was mechanically somewhat believable.
But again, it's a movie, you can't dig that hard or you'll hate anything you watch. It's like my father calling out substituted gun sounds in movies - yes it's incorrect but it makes it far more imposing/impressive. The more you know about the subjects the harder it is to fool you....like Ant Man would be punching holes in people. The Empire would have won by the time you warped to reach the Star Destroyer. Methylamine isn't as hard to get as Walter makes it out to be. Molecule8 releasing their John Lennon. The list goes on.

But these are supposed to be relativistically placed in our timeframe, then it still is absurdly advanced. Even if we scale it up with the capabilities of Stark's knowledge. Movies =/= comics, just can't work that well. I'd much rather see them apply alloy and nano-materials technology to develop more durable armors, that's fitting. I suppose I just love the justification aspect, it's a sign of good writing.

Then again - if we did that we'd also logically give every Avenger an Iron Man suit so...

But despite that - I rant on something I honestly can't let myself care about in the big picture, as I'm sure most don't. It's fun to pick apart at a given time, maybe when you're studying a related subject; it's fun and wonderful to be inspired by movies so that you do try learn more about the real world. But being picky to be picky is not a way to live your movies. Cinema is supposed to take you away. Which I realize sounds really contradictory based on the above.
I agree with you 100%. Throughout the entire Black Panther movie I was just like uhh...suuuuure. You possess alien technology, sure, super believable. :cuckoo:
Oh yeah, I get that. I just had to throw it out after a point and have fun with it. I think one of the big reasons they did this shift all because they don't have to work with physical helmets as much anymore, and actors have more range to work. Look at Stark's helmet, Any Man's, Black Panther's, Star Lord's. They can just make it appear when they need it rather than having to work with it as often practically.
 
Agreed.

Ant-man gets me too. The whole riding a bug thing goes against its own line of you being a 200lb man the size of an ant. If all they do is compress the atoms to shrink then he’s still the same weight just smaller. No flying ant is gonna haul some 200lb dude around. Lol same goes for the giant man part. He doesn’t gain mass when he grows. So how’s he tearing off an airplane wing. By the explanation they use in the films he’s just a really tall 200lb dude. Should only be able to do things he could do at normal size. It’s sorta like inflating and deflating a ballon. Well not really but it’s the easiest way I can think to make a comparison. The ballon is still the same weight/mass(more or less) inflated or deflated. Ant-man should be just a really small version with the same weight and strength or really tall version at the same weight and strength. So no riding on bugs and no picking up half an airplane.

And you are spot on about the punching thing. Lol
 
Suspend your disbelief, dammit!

:lol

This^

The Force, Batman beating Superman, A magic Hammer, Warp Speed, a unbreakable shield, superpowers from a magic spider bite, aliens with acid for blood, etc, etc.

It's all just make believe for grownups.

Enjoy it and don't overthink about any of it because NONE of it makes any sense :lol
 
This^

The Force, Batman beating Superman, A magic Hammer, Warp Speed, a unbreakable shield, superpowers from a magic spider bite, aliens with acid for blood, etc, etc.

It's all just make believe for grownups.

Enjoy it and don't overthink about any of it because NONE of it makes any sense :lol

I get that. But when they can’t even follow their own made up rules it’s an issue. Just because you see something as an issue, at least for me, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the movies. Aliens and advanced technology or things said to be magic are one thing. But when it’s presented as science based with an explanation and then they don’t even follow their own preset rules what good is anything else they say. It’s like if they said only the worthy can lift Thor’s hammer..then five minutes later everyone can pick it up an pass it around. There’s only so much suspension of disbelief can take you. Sayings it made up doesn’t excuse it all.

I liked the Antman movie, and I liked him in CW. Doesn’t change that I noticed their explanations don’t hold up. It’s like Vamprires for me. You always see that sunlight bothers them, but moonlight it fine. Well you know that the moon doesn’t actually create its own light, it’s reflected sunlight. Makes no sense. I still liked blade and Buffy.
 
I always love how in shows like The Highlander they'll just cut to a scene and a big *** sword is just magically there... :lol Sure, they generally go the route of the big trenchcoat or similar, but it doesn't always really work..
 
I get that. But when they can’t even follow their own made up rules it’s an issue. Just because you see something as an issue, at least for me, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the movies. Aliens and advanced technology or things said to be magic are one thing. But when it’s presented as science based with an explanation and then they don’t even follow their own preset rules what good is anything else they say. It’s like if they said only the worthy can lift Thor’s hammer..then five minutes later everyone can pick it up an pass it around. There’s only so much suspension of disbelief can take you. Sayings it made up doesn’t excuse it all.

I liked the Antman movie, and I liked him in CW. Doesn’t change that I noticed their explanations don’t hold up. It’s like Vamprires for me. You always see that sunlight bothers them, but moonlight it fine. Well you know that the moon doesn’t actually create its own light, it’s reflected sunlight. Makes no sense. I still liked blade and Buffy.

To be fair, and im not saying it doesn’t exist, but I haven’t seen any news or science articles about somebody catching skin cancer from being in the moonlight.
 
I always love how in shows like The Highlander they'll just cut to a scene and a big *** sword is just magically there... :lol Sure, they generally go the route of the big trenchcoat or similar, but it doesn't always really work..

I had read a thing about how Mulder and Skully didn’t actually carry around those huge flash lights either because it wasn’t practical. And they were just stored off screen until the scene required them.

While everyone makes good points, and it’s hard in this age of science and such to disagree with....

There still are people who give a **** that they don’t have a flashlight in the pocket , and the ones that don’t lol.

I grew up with a love of sci-fi and used to read a incredible amount of all sorts. I guess that suspension of “reality” to pave way for a theatrical narrative just comes second nature to me with this kinda stuff.

I get more annoyed with the , why didn’t they do that to get out of that, kinda stuff. Or the, why is everyone removing their helmets in Prometheus kinda thing (still enjoyed the move).

But I can understand why some people have a hard time suspending knowledge of the facts they have for the absurdity of its on screen or page portrayal. I just personally can usually enjoy the ride without thinking to much into it, unless it’s nerding out about said fictional universe.

But as some have pointed out , Ant-Man for example, the movie universe laws and such are constantly broken by the people that set them. I guess I can usually let that slide. Usually.

It’s the classic Luke was a Jedi vs Luke was just a Force user argument. Ultimately just go with what makes you enjoy the narrative and create your own universe.
 
Agreed.

Ant-man gets me too. The whole riding a bug thing goes against its own line of you being a 200lb man the size of an ant. If all they do is compress the atoms to shrink then he’s still the same weight just smaller. No flying ant is gonna haul some 200lb dude around. Lol same goes for the giant man part. He doesn’t gain mass when he grows. So how’s he tearing off an airplane wing. By the explanation they use in the films he’s just a really tall 200lb dude. Should only be able to do things he could do at normal size. It’s sorta like inflating and deflating a ballon. Well not really but it’s the easiest way I can think to make a comparison. The ballon is still the same weight/mass(more or less) inflated or deflated. Ant-man should be just a really small version with the same weight and strength or really tall version at the same weight and strength. So no riding on bugs and no picking up half an airplane.

And you are spot on about the punching thing. Lol

Seems to me the easiest fix would have been to avoid the whole maintaining his mass as he shrunk thing. He couldn't punch a regular sized person when he shrinks but the laws set by the film universe wouldn't be broken. He could ride ants and stand on smaller objects without adding weight to them or breaking them and gain strength when he went giant. However, the writers got lazy about making him formidable in hand to hand combat so they wrote in this whole maintaining mass thing without caring to explain the rest. All that said, still love the movie.
 
“Taken direct inspiration after the release of Avengers: Infinity War, Hot Toys’ team has markedly updated on the characteristic design of Controlled Flight Thrusters, a newly developed weapon for Nano-tech Iron Man suit. Experience the latest Iron Man in 1:6 collectible figure.”
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“Taken direct inspiration after the release of Avengers: Infinity War, Hot Toys’ team has markedly updated on the characteristic design of Controlled Flight Thrusters, a newly developed weapon for Nano-tech Iron Man suit. Experience the latest Iron Man in 1:6 collectible figure.

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