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[Plastic Bateman]

Sorry, but you can't judge the color based on a photo, which doesn't always look like the real object, and looking at that on a computer or phone screen which doesn't faithfully represent the color.

And, it doesn't matter if the original was different. There's a bunch of different shades used in the film.

And the kicker...lighting. The exact same figure can look like it was five seperate shades (or more) depending on the light.

The color is not wrong. And saying so based on a photo is like saying a car handles bad based on a video.

And just to illustrate-compare this pic of the original to your pic. They look like completly different paint jobs. But it's not.

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There's three different sets of photos from three different bloggers with (presumably) three different cameras and their own preferences for camera settings - and it's consistently a lighter red than the previous release in all of those pictures.

I look forward to someone posting a side-by-side comparison.

 

[mynameschris]

It's entirely possible that IF they do a full production run that it would come with other options. Like a stark head for example. Just have to wait and see. But for what this is, a store exclusive, it's a cool item.

And if you don't have a mk4 if consider getting it if it comes out. It's a fantastic suit

Oh if they ran it out globally I would consider it as I always liked the Mark 4 (just the Mark 6 a little more) as it has a certain classic look to it. The lack of accessories is a shame but you are right you don't know what they may add to a wider release (I wouldn't be too fussed about loosing the glasses and donuts but would like to see the wrist and shoulder weaponry) but it may not be a deal breaker for me, one thing I wouldn't like would be them to switch out to one of the stands like the Mark 3 DC has (hate those).

End of the day its likely just a small run to entice people to their store and will be good for local collectors who are newer than the original releases. For someone wanting to plug a whole in their HoA display the lack of a HS is not a big deal and if it helps them to do say the Mark 6 in DC then all the better (and for those wanting a DC 4 they are bound to release that too)

 

[Motuxmen]

There's three different sets of photos from three different bloggers with (presumably) three different cameras and their own preferences for camera settings - and it's consistently a lighter red than the previous release in all of those pictures.

I look forward to someone posting a side-by-side comparison.

And your seeing them all on a screen that could be altering the color. Universally. So again, you can't judge color from a monitor screen. Until you get the same figure in identical light you can't say it's even different, let alone wrong.

But even if it's lighter, that doesn't mean it's wrong. Which was the point.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

And your seeing them all on a screen that could be altering the color. Universally. So again, you can't judge color from a monitor screen. Until you get the same figure in identical light you can't say it's even different, let alone wrong.

But even if it's lighter, that doesn't mean it's wrong. Which was the point.

As an artist with a colour-calibrated 3k monitor, I think I can.

The video I posted earlier showed the physical Legacy props.

Here's the CGI model.

 

[Mr Walker]

And he could turn around your 50cent pot metal comment back toward you and your being miffed about 10cents worth of plastic for repulsor hands. Which, they did include.

Uh, OK. Not really seeing them, but if you say so, seeing as you apparently know it all.

 

[Motuxmen]

Uh, OK. Not really seeing them, but if you say so, seeing as you apparently know it all.

I posted a photo of them. Has nothing to do with "knowing it all" and everything to do with having two eyes.

 

[Motuxmen]

As an artist with a colour-calibrated 3k monitor, I think I can.

The video I posted earlier showed the physical Legacy props.

Here's the CGI model.

Right. And being an artist you should understand that you can not accurately compare colors from two seperate items from a photo taken in unknow lighting with unknow settings on an unknow camera. So posting videos and pictures does nothing to change that. I can take 10 photos of a white piece of paper right now and by changing the lights used it will appear a different color. I can then compare two of those photos of the exact same paper and it appears they don't match. But I'm sure you know that.

I can pull pics of parts from the film as well and it doesn't look nearly that dark(your pic). There is no right color. It's not one color on screen, so saying the figure is not right misses that fact. It may not be what your prefer, but that has nothing to do with the figure being "wrong".

 

[Mr.Tanker]

As an artist with a colour-calibrated 3k monitor, I think I can.

Actually no, that's not how it works. You are talking about monitor calibration, and he is talking about the lighting of the room/camera settings, which are two separate things.

A properly calibrated monitor isn't going to fix or change the lighting or colors in a photo, it's just going to give you a very accurate display of that photo.

 

[Jaymas]

I only have the DC Mark III (and 33), but even though I am hoping they will re-make more armors from the previous Iron Man films I will likely skip the Mark IV even though I'd be tempted to get it. Design wise it is a cast improvement over the Mark III as the proportions are a lot better. I am talking about the proportions of the design, not the figure. I don't have any comments of how well the previous HT figure captured those proportions. But regardless, the design of the IV is an improvement on the III. So for many the IV could represent the perfect "classic" Iron Man armor. The only advantage the III has is that in the films it is the first red and gold armor and it has those two ports near the color bone which is a nice call back to the comic book armor. I actually miss those ports on the Mark IV armor.

For me, I think I will wait for the Mark VI. It has almost all the same design elements of the IV plus the triangle reactor (which reminds me of the extremis comic armor). As someone who isn't trying to collect every version of the Armor I think the VI represents a more noteworthy highlight in Iron Man's armor evolution than the IV.

That would give me the Mk III, MK VI, and the MK33 (Silver Centurion). Maybe if I pick up the MK46 (which looks like the Bleeding Edge comic armor) too I would have a nice set of armor highlights from the films that also were nice call backs to the comics.

 

[Motuxmen]

Actually no, that's not how it works. You are talking about monitor calibration, and he is talking about the lighting of the room/camera settings, which are two separate things.

A properly calibrated monitor isn't going to fix or change the lighting or colors in a photo, it's just going to give you a very accurate display of that photo.

Thank you.

But, it was a combination of those two things to be fair, that I brought up. The monitor and the photo itself.

 

[Subdomain]

Just because something makes money doesn't make it good business. If you piss off enough people or confuse them then in the long term it might be very bad business.

When I said I don't get it I mean I don't understand the strategy behind releasing an outdated figure (in terms of proportion, paint apps, articulation, etc.) when most agree that a better version is imminent.

It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it please don't tell me what I do and don't understand.

Motux I'm so tired of you attacking everyone's posts I doubt I'm the only one.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Right. And being an artist you should understand that you can not accurately compare colors from two seperate items from a photo taken in unknow lighting with unknow settings on an unknow camera. So posting videos and pictures does nothing to change that. I can take 10 photos of a white piece of paper right now and by changing the lights used it will appear a different color. I can then compare two of those photos of the exact same paper and it appears they don't match. But I'm sure you know that.

I can pull pics of parts from the film as well and it doesn't look nearly that dark(your pic). There is no right color. It's not one color on screen, so saying the figure is not right misses that fact. It may not be what your prefer, but that has nothing to do with the figure being "wrong".

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And yet in other threads on this board you've claimed to have a definitive list of paint colours for the various armours. Make your mind up.

Actually no, that's not how it works. You are talking about monitor calibration, and he is talking about the lighting of the room/camera settings, which are two separate things.

A properly calibrated monitor isn't going to fix or change the lighting or colors in a photo, it's just going to give you a very accurate display of that photo.

I'd accept that if it wasn't for the fact that there's multiple photos, from multiple sources, in lighting situations ranging from artificial spotlight to natural daylight. It's pretty consistent across all of them.

 

[mynameschris]

I only have the DC Mark III (and 33), but even though I am hoping they will re-make more armors from the previous Iron Man films I will likely skip the Mark IV even though I'd be tempted to get it. Design wise it is a cast improvement over the Mark III as the proportions are a lot better. I am talking about the proportions of the design, not the figure. I don't have any comments of how well the previous HT figure captured those proportions. But regardless, the design of the IV is an improvement on the III. So for many the IV could represent the perfect "classic" Iron Man armor. The only advantage the III has is that in the films it is the first red and gold armor and it has those two ports near the color bone which is a nice call back to the comic book armor. I actually miss those ports on the Mark IV armor.

I think your about spot on there, for me I bought the Mark III because it was from the first Iron Man film and to me its the first "true" Iron Man suit (yeh both the Mark I and Mark II were Iron Man suits but one was to escape and the other a prototype) so I bought the figure in the same manner of thought who would have bought TFA Cap over Spangled Man or Rescue Cap (the logic makes sense to me). The Mark IV does improve on the design and as you say looks more "classic" Iron Man and at least takes part in 2 memorable events in the film.

For me, I think I will wait for the Mark VI. It has almost all the same design elements of the IV plus the triangle reactor (which reminds me of the extremis comic armor). As someone who isn't trying to collect every version of the Armor I think the VI represents a more noteworthy highlight in Iron Man's armor evolution than the IV.

Completely agree with you here, love seeing art of the Etremis armour, as well as being his last pre-Avenger suit. Has numerous memorable scenes over 2 movies and for me really was the suit I hated seeing explode during IM3. Hope that not only HT revisit this suit but that Marvel revisit some of the design from the MarkVI/Extremis in the future.

That would give me the Mk III, MK VI, and the MK33 (Silver Centurion). Maybe if I pick up the MK46 (which looks like the Bleeding Edge comic armor) too I would have a nice set of armor highlights from the films that also were nice call backs to the comics.

I have the Mark 3, 20, 33, 43 and have the 45 on order. I am likely going to pick up the 46 and sell the Marks 20 and 33 so one of the suits which sit towards the end of Phase 1 (so 6 or 7, or both) would represent a good lineup of the Iron Man design lineage.

 

[bransen2099]

Is this being parted out yet?


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[Dave_W]

Did they ditch the hip flares mechanism because that POS never stays where it should be on my IV and they could have at least used the new MkIII head.

 

[Starfleet Captain]

On top of the hip flares, I'm not sure if the shoulder guns are still stowed inside the shoulders anymore either...Gone are the days of stowed accessories...

The hip flares are a pain on my Mark VI as well...

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Just because something makes money doesn't make it good business. If you piss off enough people or confuse them then in the long term it might be very bad business.

When I said I don't get it I mean I don't understand the strategy behind releasing an outdated figure (in terms of proportion, paint apps, articulation, etc.) when most agree that a better version is imminent.

It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it please don't tell me what I do and don't understand.

Motux I'm so tired of you attacking everyone's posts I doubt I'm the only one.

You're not the only one.

Nobody knows definitively what this figure will or won't have. I don't own the Mark IV and I don't know what issues it has, if any. I don't care if this version doesn't come with sunglasses or a donut. But to not improve proportions, update articulation or add diecast would be a bush move on HT's part.

 

[subzro]

You're not the only one.

Nobody knows definitively what this figure will or won't have. I don't own the Mark IV and I don't know what issues it has, if any. I don't care if this version doesn't come with sunglasses or a donut. But to not improve proportions, update articulation or add diecast would be a bush move on HT's part.

All the ones they might have been planning to make might have already been sold so i'm not going to worry about what it does or does not have.

 

[WhoaItsJBot]

I've skimmed the thread and some say it looks different and others say it looks the same. I actually prefer this design over all others, even the Mark 3. I'd love to get this one, but not if it'll have the pink issues the older suits have.

 

[PopCultKid]

I wonder what this means for the high hopes of some of the originals getting the 2.0 treatment. Even if this is a small release store EX, wouldn't it be poor form to offer a redesigned and improved MK IV in the near future?