1/6 Hot Toys - MMS264 - X-Men: DOFP: Wolverine Collectible Figure

[HeubertMichael]

What the hell is a Briareos?

Watch Appleseed Alpha and you'll meet him. It's a kickass movie with some of the most amazing animation I've seen. You might love it since you love IM and maybe mechas.

 

[Motuxmen]

My god I would pay whatever for a Fass magneto.

Pony up 100k for likeness rights , another 100k-1mill(depends on a lot of factors) for film rights or more, pay a sculptor 750 dollars to 10k for the head and outfit (he will probably outsource the clothing as most do unless you own a toy company/studio). Then you will have one proto. Then because it's licensed before it can be sold you have to get fox, marvel, and the actor to approve it. Then you can pay a factory (or buy one or pay tool and die) another handful of thousands of dollars to produce it, paint it, dress it. Then hire someone else to make the packaging. Which also has to be approved by marvel and fox and the actor. It's always going to require a change at some point so pay to have it redesigned and then get it reapproved. Now I you also have to pay any staff to market it, attended conventions and salary, as well as well as every other overhead. Like building rent and tax and about a dozen other normal operating fees. Having sunk inlets say on the low end 300k developing and producing the figure and running the business (can cost that or a lot more for a single figure, especially if it's the first of a license because it has to cover all the costs of the licenses, or if it's the first with new tooling). Now let's say you do market research plus contact other companies to deal with the same type of product and you figure out that you can expect 3000 sales on average. If it's uber popular that goes up. But because of history of this character and property you are told that expect and plan for the average. Which means if you expect 3000 sales you need to build 3000 plus 500 extra for damage and returns. So there's more money off the profit. You look at all that and price it at 250 a figure. That means if you hit the mark that you make 750k in sales. Now you also didn't account for shipping, of product from factory to warehouse. Wages to pay the warehouse folks. And a **** ton of other costs that I can break down if anyone really cares but I doubt they do. And after you announce the figure for the 250, hoping to at least cover costs your company gets slammed for being greedy ass hats, and not make a beast first, and then people think the sculpt doesn't look quite right and the material of the coat is to shiny. So half the preorders you where counting on get cancelled.

So you deciede to hell with this and go back to making tin man in a suit that you know sells, has half the licensing and production costs.

 

[DiFabio]

 

[qualitymm]

LOL 300$ for fassneto cmon !!. now you just tease ht

 

[murdomac]

Pony up 100k for likeness rights , another 100k-1mill(depends on a lot of factors) for film rights or more, pay a sculptor 750 dollars to 10k for the head and outfit (he will probably outsource the clothing as most do unless you own a toy company/studio). Then you will have one proto. Then because it's licensed before it can be sold you have to get fox, marvel, and the actor to approve it. Then you can pay a factory (or buy one or pay tool and die) another handful of thousands of dollars to produce it, paint it, dress it. Then hire someone else to make the packaging. Which also has to be approved by marvel and fox and the actor. It's always going to require a change at some point so pay to have it redesigned and then get it reapproved. Now I you also have to pay any staff to market it, attended conventions and salary, as well as well as every other overhead. Like building rent and tax and about a dozen other
normal operating fees. Having sunk inlets say on the low end 300k developing and producing the figure and running the business (can cost that or a lot more for a single figure, especially if it's the first of a license because it has to cover all the costs of the licenses, or if it's the first with new tooling). Now let's say you do market research plus contact other companies to deal with the same type of product and you figure out that you can expect 3000 sales on average. If it's uber popular that goes up. But because of history of this character and property you are told that expect and plan for the average. Which means if you expect 3000 sales you need to build 3000 plus 500 extra for damage and returns. So there's more money off the profit. You look at all that and price it at 250 a figure. That means if you hit the mark that you make 750k in sales. Now you also didn't account for shipping, of product from factory to warehouse. Wages to pay the warehouse folks. And a **** ton of other costs that I can break down if anyone really cares but I doubt they do. And after you announce the figure for the 250, hoping to at least cover costs your company gets slammed for being greedy ass hats, and not make a beast first, and then people think the sculpt doesn't look quite right and the material of the coat is to shiny. So half the preorders you where counting on get cancelled.

So you deciede to hell with this and go back to making tin man in a suit that you know sells, has half the licensing and production costs.

Or maybe Art Figures could produce some figures in kit form like 'Metalman', Brainreader', Blue Wollfy man', Cameleon Girl,.....etc etc etc for £120-£150 each and clean up?

 

[CollectorGuy]

^^^^
Works for me I still cant believe HT hasn't taken advantage of the X-men licenses. They would make a killing!

 

[CollectorGuy]

Have u guys seen the DOFP outtakes yet? The ones with McAvoy are hilarious

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Sweet wall of text.

 

[Brainiac]

I just walk around those walls

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Or maybe Art Figures could produce some figures in kit form like 'Metalman', Brainreader', Blue Wollfy man', Cameleon Girl,.....etc etc etc for £120-£150 each and clean up?

 

[skizzoid]

How can they not make fassneto? Did they spend money on a permit from fox to use wolverine only? I would pay $400 for that magneto. I would pass on HT ultron for HT Fassneto.

You're one in a doggone million, then.

Make it two.

Make it three, though not for $400. Ultron's cool, but I'd still take a Fassbender Magneto (as underwhelmed as I was with DOFP) over Ultron.

And after you announce the figure for the 250, hoping to at least cover costs your company gets slammed for being greedy ass hats, and not make a beast first, and then people think the sculpt doesn't look quite right and the material of the coat is to shiny. So half the preorders you where counting on get cancelled.

So you deciede to hell with this and go back to making tin man in a suit that you know sells, has half the licensing and production costs.

The only thing I'd argue with is the overhead costs- HT already has the factories running and convention setups established, so those costs are fixed and sunk. It's the added labor/capital costs that should be relevant, and those won't be as high as you imagine. I don't think HT needs to expand its production facilities (i.e. a new factory) to make just one new figure, nor does it need to hire a new convention staff member to advertise that one new figure. There'll be costs to transitioning to making a new figure, but it's roughly the same regardless of who the character is.

Still, it's a pretty accurate description of what goes into making these production decisions (and why Fox characters are far less likely to be made).

 

[Shawpaw]

I'm sure 1/6 Fassneto would cost around $249 USD. But, I'd honestly pay $400 for it if it meant he was in my curio looking like a boss. I wonder who would pull off the boss pose the best: hardy bane or Fassneto? Magneto is one of the more popular marvel Villians and has a pretty big following. They will make a plethora of bank off of the AV2 line. Might as well buy rights to magneto. They have quite a few versions of him out there now.

 

[Invictus Sol]

Make it two.

I know for a fact you wouldn't pay $400.00, Uncanny!

Regardless, grand total of one person that will buy Fassneto at $400.00 and another couple if it's $250.00 (and pass on Ultron). Hardly a groundswell. Anyway, this far after the movie's been out and with things gearing up for Age of Ultron and Star Wars... don't see HT revisiting this license. Wolverine really doesn't signal anything as they haven't released any companion characters from any of the movies, not even the original X-Men, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[ronri]

I love Magneto and would definitely buy him for $250, but pass on Ultron? No way in hell.

Regardless of how the film might turn out, I'd still get Ultron over Magneto. Fassbender Magneto is easily one of the best supervillain depictions ever, but that still comes second to Ultron especially considering how the latter not only caters to my appreciation for humanoid sentient bots, but also happens to be my favorite Marvel character.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

I love Magneto and would definitely buy him for $250, but pass on Ultron? No way in hell.

Regardless of how the film might turn out, I'd still get Ultron over Magneto. Fassbender Magneto is easily one of the best supervillain depictions ever, but that still comes second to Ultron especially considering how the latter not only caters to my appreciation for humanoid sentient bots, but also happens to be my favorite Marvel character.

(Looks at avy and sig) You don't say?

 

[Leinjl01]

I know for a fact you wouldn't pay $400.00, Uncanny!

Regardless, grand total of one person that will buy Fassneto at $400.00 and another couple if it's $250.00 (and pass on Ultron). Hardly a groundswell. Anyway, this far after the movie's been out and with things gearing up for Age of Ultron and Star Wars... don't see HT revisiting this license. Wolverine really doesn't signal anything as they haven't released any companion characters from any of the movies, not even the original X-Men, if I'm not mistaken.

At this point I would pay $400 as well. I know it's crazy but Magneto is my favorite Marvel character of all time and to have a movie accurate 1/6 figure with the high quality of a HT figure would be worth it to me. This would still be less expensive than a private commission. As long as it had a few sets of hands and a helmeted and unhelmeted head sculpt along with a cool base, $400 would be as high as I would go.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

In a just world, DOFP Fassneto would get made and wouldn't cost more than $230, tops.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

^^^^
Works for me I still cant believe HT hasn't taken advantage of the X-men licenses. They would make a killing!

 

[Invictus Sol]

At this point I would pay $400 as well. I know it's crazy but Magneto is my favorite Marvel character of all time and to have a movie accurate 1/6 figure with the high quality of a HT figure would be worth it to me. This would still be less expensive than a private commission. As long as it had a few sets of hands and a helmeted and unhelmeted head sculpt along with a cool base, $400 would be as high as I would go.

If you guys are willing to go to $400.00, I was going to suggest a custom, but they are really tricky to get right and would be well above the prices we are discussing here, as you know. Definitely not an ideal solution, I guess.

 

[Leinjl01]

If you guys are willing to go to $400.00, I was going to suggest a custom, but they are really tricky to get right and would be well above the prices we are discussing here, as you know. Definitely not an ideal solution, I guess.

I definitely considered getting this privately commissioned. But as you noted, it's incredibly expensive and the quality still wouldn't match what HT could do. This really irritates me. First HT says they are deciding who to make first. Then we get Wolverine for the fourth time. All I have to say is that if they don't produce a Magneto figure they will not have my business for future figures.