1/6 Hot Toys - POTC5 - Jack Sparrow Figure (Artisan Edition + Regular) Collectible Figure

[Wor-Gar]

Weird. So Sideshow got two units?

1st Batch...?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Weird. So Sideshow got two units?

1st Batch...?

The hat will be improved on the second batch…..

 

[Gipetto0812]

Weird. So Sideshow got two units?

1st Batch...?

The hat will be improved on the second batch…..

There they go, copying InArt again. Making later batches better. Can’t they get their own ideas?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

In all seriousness, this is the first time I didn’t buy direct from HK. Mostly because I wanted to experience this queue system on SS and I didn’t think or know if HK would get any artisan with the ‘usual’ markup.

With the delay of a charging notice I kind of wish I had just gone through TBA again.

First world problems of course. I’m just very excited to get this, as most of us are.

 

[Godfather1408]

I got charged notice on the 4th but ended up putting on payment plan due to everything hitting. 12 invoices in 10 days is nuts!!! I've had to cancel some, luckily I only had shipping to pay with one man's hobby for my artisan, so sideshow one can wait.

 

[GrimmReapah]

Hate to break it to you guys but the perfect figure simply doesnt excist. Youre all chasing a ghost. Mainly becouse a character in a movie will come across differenntly in many scenes, let alone many movies. With different expressions, a tad different make up, maybe the hair site a bit different, he had less sleep so his eyes look more tired. Or had a sniff of coke and he's pumped with energy lightning also makes difference. Contrast of the video. Watching it on dvd,blueray or 4k. Clothing could viarate in many scenes. I can go on and on honestly. For this reason its impossible to recreate the perfect figure, perhaps from a specific scene yes. Anyway i think in the last year of collecting they've improved alot regards of realism and clothing and i am greatfully thankfull how close they can get these days.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Yea it was a queued event situation and sold out in under an hour I think.

I think @SwedishHeat and I are the only ones on the board who have gotten charged for this unless others just haven’t been vocal about their orders getting charged?

I will definitely line out my thoughts when he arrives. Pics probably won’t come fast as this is one I’m going to want to take my time with and try to get the futzing right.

Yay, ultra-limited edition 1 of 2.

I got my shipping notice earlier, should be here on Tuesday. Probably won't get a chance to unbox till next weekend though.

 

[GrimmReapah]

Aaaaaarrrrgggghhh some new shots matey

 

[HyperDrive]

I'm not as huge on accuracy as far as the figures go and that's across the board for any company. I even mentioned in the InArt Ron thread awhile ago that while JND are actually correct in that Ron's robes weren't worn/washed/hand me down looking in TSS in the way they were in COS, I like that InArt did it anyway b/c it adds some contrast between him and Harry.

You were very vocal about InArt's Legolas inaccuracies and rightfully so. But, the figure looks good to me, so I ordered despite those things in hopes that the end product will be just as good as the prototype. If they change things for the better, cool. If not, I'm fine with it as is.

Even with InArt Superman. It's not entirely accurate in color for both the blue of the suit and the cape color, but still makes for a nice figure despite it's short comings. I knew it was inaccurate when I ordered it. My problems with that figure are QC & final product quality related as they really have been with all my InArt figures.

Same thing applies here with Jack. The final product looks pretty dang close to what I ordered and based on reviews, there aren't any QC issues or a glaring drop in quality. Anything I want to do after the fact to enhance it is on me. I knew what I was buying when I ordered it and feel HT delivered on that.

I can live with inaccuracies if the final figure looks good like this Jack.

Okay, so you’re saying as long as the stock product you purchased is close as possible to the solicitation pictures and the quality and QC is great, you’re good and “can live with the inaccuracies”.

So why is that you’re quick to scrutinize stock figures (more so INART) by supporting mods and custom work? A bit contradictory since you said you’re good with figures with inaccuracies.

For example, your problems with INART Superman aren’t solely the “QC & final product quality”. You keep saying that figures look good [enough to purchase] despite their shortcomings, but then you turn around and criticize INART figures extensively on an accuracy-related front. With Hot Toys, you tend to be more lax. Picking and choosing much? Just my observations. You do you, collect how you want of course, but in my eyes, there’s a hole in your argument.

Again, no disrespect here.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Okay, so you’re saying as long as the stock product you purchased is close as possible to the solicitation pictures and the quality and QC is great, you’re good and “can live with the inaccuracies”.

So why is that you’re quick to scrutinize stock figures (more so INART) by supporting mods and custom work? A bit contradictory since you said you’re good with figures with inaccuracies.

For example, your problems with INART Superman aren’t solely the “QC & final product quality”. You keep saying that figures look good [enough to purchase] despite their shortcomings, but then you turn around and criticize INART figures extensively on an accuracy-related front. With Hot Toys, you tend to be more lax. Picking and choosing much? Just my observations. You do you, collect how you want of course, but in my eyes, there’s a hole in your argument.

Again, no disrespect here.

I must not be explaining myself well enough for you since you seem to still not understand.

I support custom work all the time. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate a stock figure for what it is. That’s why I said anything I want to do after the fact is on me. I’m happy to enhance a figure after the fact if I want to should I see fit. BUT, I shouldn’t be trying to fix QC issues and/or bad headsculpt paint and hairwork. Enhancing/customizing a figure to make it more accurate is different than fixing production errors the company made. Maybe that’s where the confusion lies?

As for Superman, I think you’re confused a bit here. I didn’t scrutinize InArt Superman. I mentioned in my initial review that I liked the figure and that it was the best Cavill figure to date. You just had a problem with me saying that the colors were inaccurate later in the discussion. I said repeatedly that just b/c the colors were inaccurate, it didn’t make it bad figure. This wasn’t a “problem” I had/have with the figure nor did I scrutinize the figure for it, just an observation. You seemed to not like the fact that I was disagreeing with you on the colors of the suit and cape and how they relate to the real life suit. That doesn’t equate to me scrutinizing the figure or having a problem with the figure.
Aragorn-haven’t criticized anything about that in regards to accuracy. Just final product hair and paint work. Being disappointed that it didn’t come with the Ranger cloak also has nothing to do with accuracy.
Gandalf- There was the debate on the pattern on the pants which everyone else won out on so I shut up about it. My later critiques once I got the figure were regarding the terrible, wobbly base with paint chips along the edge and weak magnets, the sleeve length of the undershirt being too short to get he thumbs in the thumb holes, and the way the hands don’t fit all the way on the wrist pegs b/c they didn’t account for the magnets. So again, final product related, not accuracy related.
Harry Potter- magnets not being glued in the head, bad hair, poorly applied fabric on the diorama, very plastic, unrealistic paint on the “wooden” base topper, Hedwig’s eyes being quite flat with cheap decals when the prototype looked to have had the curved shape of the eyes and more realistic >>>final product quality issues
TDK Joker- those heads are nothing like the prototype in paintwork and hair work. The shirt also took a downgrade from the prototype at least in terms of the color. Everyone’s complained about the magnets in the base>>>final product quality issues.
Ron (from pics)- the only complaints I’ve had are the paint work and hair work. Nothing about accuracy. Again, technically the robes are inaccurate to TSS b/c they shouldn’t be worn out looking, but I like it and I’m not complaining about it.

So please tell me again where I’m scrutinizing InArt for accuracy? My complaints are QC and final product quality related, man

 

[HyperDrive]

I must not be explaining myself well enough for you since you seem to still not understand.

I support custom work all the time. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate a stock figure for what it is. That’s why I said anything I want to do after the fact is on me. I’m happy to enhance a figure after the fact if I want to should I see fit. BUT, I shouldn’t be trying to fix QC issues and/or bad paint and hairwork. Enhancing/customizing a figure to make it more accurate is different than fixing things to try to make it look more like the prototype the company themselves made. Maybe that’s where the confusion lies?

As for Superman, I think you’re confused a bit here. I didn’t scrutinize InArt Superman. I mentioned in my initial review that I liked the figure and that it was the best Cavill figure to date. You just had a problem with me saying that the colors were inaccurate later in the discussion. I said repeatedly that just b/c the colors were inaccurate, it didn’t make it bad figure. This wasn’t a “problem” I had/have with the figure nor did I scrutinize the figure for it, just an observation. You seemed to not like the fact that I was disagreeing with you on the colors of the suit and cape and how they relate to the real life suit. That doesn’t equate to me scrutinizing the figure or having a problem with the figure.
Aragorn-haven’t criticized anything about that in regards to accuracy. Just final product hair and paint work. Being disappointed that it didn’t come with the Ranger cloak also has nothing to do with accuracy.
Gandalf- There was the debate on the pattern on the pants which everyone else won out on so I shut up about it. My later critiques once I got the figure were regarding the terrible, wobbly base with paint chips along the edge and weak magnets, the sleeve length of the undershirt being too short to get he thumbs in the thumb holes, and the way the hands don’t fit all the way on the wrist pegs b/c they didn’t account for the magnets. So again, final product related, not accuracy related.
Harry Potter- bad hair, poorly applied fabric on the diorama, very plastic, unrealistic paint on the “wooden” base topper, Hedwig’s eyes being quite flat with cheap decals when the prototype looked to have had the curved shape of the eyes and more realistic >>>final product quality issues
TDK Joker- those heads are nothing like the prototype in paintwork and hair work. The shirt also took a downgrade from the prototype at least in terms of the color. Everyone’s complained about the magnets in the base>>>final product quality issues.
Ron (from pics)- the only complaints I’ve had are the paint work and hair work. Nothing about accuracy. Again, technically the robes are inaccurate to TSS b/c they shouldn’t be worn out looking, but I like it and I’m not complaining about it.

So please tell me again where I’m scrutinizing InArt for accuracy? My complaints are QC and final product quality related, man

Uh, no. You also scrutinize INART regarding accuracy related details.

 

[HyperDrive]

I must not be explaining myself well enough for you since you seem to still not understand.

I support custom work all the time. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate a stock figure for what it is. That’s why I said anything I want to do after the fact is on me. I’m happy to enhance a figure after the fact if I want to should I see fit. BUT, I shouldn’t be trying to fix QC issues and/or bad headsculpt paint and hairwork. Enhancing/customizing a figure to make it more accurate is different than fixing things to try to make it look more like the prototype the company themselves made. Maybe that’s where the confusion lies?

As for Superman, I think you’re confused a bit here. I didn’t scrutinize InArt Superman. I mentioned in my initial review that I liked the figure and that it was the best Cavill figure to date. You just had a problem with me saying that the colors were inaccurate later in the discussion. I said repeatedly that just b/c the colors were inaccurate, it didn’t make it bad figure. This wasn’t a “problem” I had/have with the figure nor did I scrutinize the figure for it, just an observation. You seemed to not like the fact that I was disagreeing with you on the colors of the suit and cape and how they relate to the real life suit. That doesn’t equate to me scrutinizing the figure or having a problem with the figure.
Aragorn-haven’t criticized anything about that in regards to accuracy. Just final product hair and paint work. Being disappointed that it didn’t come with the Ranger cloak also has nothing to do with accuracy.
Gandalf- There was the debate on the pattern on the pants which everyone else won out on so I shut up about it. My later critiques once I got the figure were regarding the terrible, wobbly base with paint chips along the edge and weak magnets, the sleeve length of the undershirt being too short to get he thumbs in the thumb holes, and the way the hands don’t fit all the way on the wrist pegs b/c they didn’t account for the magnets. So again, final product related, not accuracy related.
Harry Potter- bad hair, poorly applied fabric on the diorama, very plastic, unrealistic paint on the “wooden” base topper, Hedwig’s eyes being quite flat with cheap decals when the prototype looked to have had the curved shape of the eyes and more realistic >>>final product quality issues
TDK Joker- those heads are nothing like the prototype in paintwork and hair work. The shirt also took a downgrade from the prototype at least in terms of the color. Everyone’s complained about the magnets in the base>>>final product quality issues.
Ron (from pics)- the only complaints I’ve had are the paint work and hair work. Nothing about accuracy. Again, technically the robes are inaccurate to TSS b/c they shouldn’t be worn out looking, but I like it and I’m not complaining about it.

So please tell me again where I’m scrutinizing InArt for accuracy? My complaints are QC and final product quality related, man

I’m not gonna go and scour the forum to quote you going back months and whatnot like you and others do to me, but yeah I’m done with this conversation lol. You’re not picking up what I’m putting down here.

Obviously, I’m aware of what you’re saying, but you’re contradictory after the fact. No sh*t the final product figures don’t match the prototype solicitation pictures. And if that’s the metric you use to determine what makes a good or acceptable product, then you’re only going to set yourself up for disappointment every time. In that regard, I don’t even think you should pursue any of these things. But that’s not what I’m pointing out here, so not sure why you’re bringing that up.

Honestly, I don’t want to derail the thread here. So we’ll agree to disagree on things and move on. Back to Jack!

 

[Gipetto0812]

 

[HyperDrive]

Nah.

 

[HyperDrive]