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[klapper]

I agree 100%. It's just unfortunate Sideshow had to use dark brown/purple "skintone" paint without any shading or gradation applied 2mm thick (obscuring pretty much all finer sculpt detail) to paint it with.

And I won't make reference to the failed SSC inserted-eyeballs system. But hey, $240 Luke X-Wing did away with that system so it turned out much, much... oh, wait - no that had terrible eyes too, just in a different way.

Since day one Sideshow has had pretty great likenesses (thank you Trevor Grove) - and yes, SSC's Ben outdoes the HT version in terms of likeness - but from day one Sideshow has also had awful paint, and that continued all the way into 2016.... as their basic figure prices went from $50 to $100 to $150 to $200 to $240 and now hovering in the just-under-$300 range.

Agreed. Bad paint quality and a high price range don't match at all.

And it is kinda shameful that they reissue a character that is 90% identical to the previous one (and with some of the same flaws), with less acessories and a price far more higher. That is biggest problem regarding SSC reissues, in my opinion.

 

[kl241]

It's also a legally binding term of the sale. Violate it, and you've lied to the consumer, making you vulnerable. If they didn't state "this item will be limited to a production of X items" they can do whatever they want.

However, "Limited Edition" IS what they stated. And they'll do this over and over... until someone comes after them. Maybe, maybe not, for a $200 collectible, but on a life size statue or bust costing many hundreds or thousands... I can see someone coming after them eventually as they do it more and more.

Where does it say it is "legally binding?" I've seen this crap with companies all of the time. First they offer a "Limited Edition" that sells better than they had expected and demand is high so they re-issue the same product as an "Unlimited Edition" afterwards. Seen this on soundtracks, albums, comics, and collectibles. Sometimes they will intentionally alter something just subtle enough as to not "devalue" the original "Limited Edition" in some way which is what SSC is doing by not including the original stands and/or all original accessories. Personally I think it's weak not to include the stands but whatever. At least someone who missed out will get a second chance to get the item and not have to pay ridiculous scalper prices and SSC makes money so it's a win-win for everybody as far as I'm concerned.

 

[MACHone]

I heard they are changing their name from Sideshow Collectibles to Sideshow Stuff. Sorry at their prices and production they are no longer collectibles. Say what you want about resale value, college funds, flipping for a profit....Sideshow was something else before. I am all for another IG-88 release, but it should not be a reissue. And if it comes with less it should not be more than the original. Let's face it Sideshow prices are outrageous nowadays. The bubble has burst, it started when Sideshow got greedy and squeezed the third party vendors out of their profits with the allocations and pricing restrictions. It's stupid that stores like Bigbadtoystore and Alterego have to send email only discounts to move overstock products to circumvent Sideshows questionable pricing practices.

 

[Getoninja]

your IG-88 with ligtup base is still worth $500000++++ in the secondary market and is still special for you, don't worry guys, you are still special.

if you guys have issues with sideshow or/and hot toys whether its limited edition runs, quality problems, accuracy pricing, etc, there I simple solution, don't buy their products.
Also, what million dollar company isn't greedy

You should collect a product cause you like it, not just cause its limited, what a bunch of self entitled poser hacky thing to say.

true collector-I just bought new Megatron by Hasbro at Target, price was decent but figure is amazing and will look amazing with Megatron collection
only limited edition collector (probably poser and maybe only a investor)-was Megatron a limited number figure?
true collector-well no
only limited edition collector (probably poser and maybe only a investor)-well your figure is toy, boring and is not a collectible and sucks
true collector-well I bought Megatron cause the figure looks great and I like it, I don't care about the run number
only limited edition collector (probably poser and maybe only a investor)-it doesn't matter, not limited, figure still sucks
true collector-but shouldn't you buy something cause you personally like it whether if it was regular or even limited run? isn't that the true meaning of being a fan?
only limited edition collector (probably poser and maybe only a investor)-no, true meaning of collecting when its a limited run and then the piece will go up value. Duh, that's being a real fan. Run along kid , and go play with your non exclusive limited run Megatron toy
true collector-WTF

 

[j97e1]

You should collect a product cause you like it, not just cause its limited, what a bunch of self entitled poser hacky thing to say.

Telling others why, how, or what they should or should not collect - That is even more "...self entitled poser hacky thing to say...".

As for myself - Yes, I collect what I like. But I also buy and trade for limited items I don't really care for, and I do it only because they are exclusive or limited. Using them as trade bate or selling them for profit on the aftermarket, that's what allows me to afford, maintain and refresh my collection.
So if you are buying because you like it - Good for you.
If you are buying to scalp - Good for you.
As long as I am not the one paying your bills, I have ZERO right to tell you what you should or should not do, or give any other sort of validation to the ways you conduct and manage your collecting habits.

Peace to the World!

 

[Getoninja]

Telling others why, how, or what they should or should not collect - That is even more "...self entitled poser hacky thing to say...".

As for myself - Yes, I collect what I like. But I also buy and trade for limited items I don't really care for, and I do it only because they are exclusive or limited. Using them as trade bate or selling them for profit on the aftermarket, that's what allows me to afford, maintain and refresh my collection.
So if you are buying because you like it - Good for you.
If you are buying to scalp - Good for you.
As long as I am not the one paying your bills, I have ZERO right to tell you what you should or should not do, or give any other sort of validation to the ways you conduct and manage your collecting habits.

Peace to the World!

Some users here have said Sideshow is becoming like Hasbro cause their items are getting reissued and are not limited. So, what they are your saying, only limited edition pieces count as being collectible but when other collectors buys figures made by Hasbro, those people don't count? to me, this type of statement is put down to Hasbro collectors.
"sorry but your crappy Tfs collection by Hasbro sucks cause their is no limited edition HT Optimus Prime figure with the starscream attachments"

And I agree if its your money, buy what you want, I don't care. Then you shouldn't care about reissues cause you will not buy them.

I also understand some are limited pieces but companies over and over have reissued products in different packaging, extra pieces, minor paint mods, repaints, etc this is part of collecting and has been going on since I been collecting toys in the 80s.
if you buy a product cause you like it, good for you and if you buy a product to scalp or investment, good for you, but please own up to it.

I just hope Sideshow doesn't reissue 1/6 R2-D2 he is my most valued figure in my collection

 

[Futurion]

Good to know there are still people with common sense like myself. I collect things because i like them and that's the whole point.

 

[TaliBane]

Where does it say it is "legally binding?" I've seen this crap with companies all of the time. First they offer a "Limited Edition" that sells better than they had expected and demand is high so they re-issue the same product as an "Unlimited Edition" afterwards. Seen this on soundtracks, albums, comics, and collectibles. Sometimes they will intentionally alter something just subtle enough as to not "devalue" the original "Limited Edition" in some way which is what SSC is doing by not including the original stands and/or all original accessories. Personally I think it's weak not to include the stands but whatever. At least someone who missed out will get a second chance to get the item and not have to pay ridiculous scalper prices and SSC makes money so it's a win-win for everybody as far as I'm concerned.

I mean legally binding in the sense if a company specifically tells a customer in writing "once this limited item is gone, it's gone" the "limited" aspect is part of what the customer is paying for. It's part of the terms of the sale, part of what the customer paid for. There's been cases where art collectors have sued major photographers after they paid for "limited edition" prints, only to have the photographer issue more prints later.

All that aside, this type of thing just makes Sideshow look bad in the eyes of the very people they should care most about - their longtime customers, which is a steadily shrinking fan base anyway.

And as I said previously, if you missed out on IG-88 but were prepared to wait, the regular could be had for not a huge amount over retail even recently (I saw one go for $235 only a month or so ago, vs. $185 orig retail - if it was released today as a new figure it would be $250 easy) so it was not really one of the "ridiculous scalper prices" type figures like SSC Greedo.

 

[Tom Day]

Surely the Tusken Raider will be next to be rereleased given the offensive scalping of this fairly average figure. Plus it'll give them a chance to fix the body issues.

 

[Deeznutz6]

Good I missed it the first time, problem is this time it will be 200 plus

 

[slikkerias]

Do we know SSC will reissue Boosk or is that just an assumption? I hope so and I hope Dengar will be announced some day soon - for some weird reason my favorite.
Kind of ambivalent when it comes to reissuing... I mean there surely aren't enough around to make us all happy... I'm glad I'll get the chance but still I think it's important to update them so there's a difference to the original.

 

[Aliaz]

The Bossk reissue speculation is due to the new Bossk headsculpt shown in a group shot with 4-LOM.

 

[slikkerias]

The Bossk reissue speculation is due to the new Bossk headsculpt shown in a group shot with 4-LOM.

Ah ok. Yes that's as good a clue as they get. I think a reissue is ok if a figure is updated like that. It means the original will still be kind of unique.

 

[screamingmetal]

I missed out on this the first time so I'm happy they're making him available again. For some of Sideshow's best releases it makes sense to reissue them, and I hope they keep doing it. Screw limited editions.
Can't wait to see this standing next to my Bossk and Boba.

 

[Niltusk]

Surely the Tusken Raider will be next to be rereleased given the offensive scalping of this fairly average figure. Plus it'll give them a chance to fix the body issues.

This is funny since the Ex's were available for the $100 range for so long after it released.

 

[Tom Day]

This is funny since the Ex's were available for the $100 range for so long after it released.

Yes, but no one needed it then to complete a mostly Hot Toys 12-back collection!

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Plus it'll give them a chance to fix the body issues.

I wouldn't count on this happening considering that nearly all of their bodies are subpar. I have received way more awful ones than even adequate ones over the years.

 

[ambasah]

your IG-88 with ligtup base is still worth $500000++++ in the secondary market and is still special for you, don't worry guys, you are still special.

if you guys have issues with sideshow or/and hot toys whether its limited edition runs, quality problems, accuracy pricing, etc, there I simple solution, don't buy their products.

this is the part that most seem to not grasp. A lot of people bought this and other figures (sometimes at a premium price) with a mutual understanding (between them and Sideshow) that once it "sold out" it was gone for good. It is a concept SS has used time and again (and continue to do so) in their marketing. Look at the new batman/catwoman statues from the old tv show as an example. "buy now...only x left !"

To then, years later, offer essentially the same item is what upsets a portion of the fanbase.

I think all fans should demand more but I know that will not happen. Sideshow meanwhile continues to laugh all the way to the bank...the cost to re-release these figures is next to nil (no new tooling, r&d etc.) and they can offer less (accessories etc.) AND charge you more than the first time.

I cannot think of another business that could do the same...sell you something old, with less "stuff", but at a higher price.

 

[slikkerias]

this is the part that most seem to not grasp. A lot of people bought this and other figures (sometimes at a premium price) with a mutual understanding (between them and Sideshow) that once it "sold out" it was gone for good. It is a concept SS has used time and again (and continue to do so) in their marketing. Look at the new batman/catwoman statues from the old tv show as an example. "buy now...only x left !"

To then, years later, offer essentially the same item is what upsets a portion of the fanbase.

I think all fans should demand more but I know that will not happen. Sideshow meanwhile continues to laugh all the way to the bank...the cost to re-release these figures is next to nil (no new tooling, r&d etc.) and they can offer less (accessories etc.) AND charge you more than the first time.

I cannot think of another business that could do the same...sell you something old, with less "stuff", but at a higher price.

If you think hard you'll probably come up with other businesses that do the same ;-)
I'm still not sure what to think about this... If they do some updating I'm ok even if I already own the figure. Then at least the collector has 'the original'. Its the same when Hot Toys seems to rerelease the Powerloader and Big Chap. The same figure but with updated paint. I have both and I'm fine with other people getting the chance.
...and I guess this new batch is kind of limited as well.

 

[egel]

Just so long as it leads to updated Greedo, Momaw, Gamorrean, Tusken, Snowtrooper...

But once I have every sold out SS figure I want SS should stop with the reissues.

Spot on. Forget the principles, this is what it boils down too.