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Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

This for me is going to be hard to pass up. I already passed on Vader and I know i'll be getting some of the new clones around the Holidays but this.. My god I can't even. Better start getting the Snowtroopers to get ready for this. Hopefully a probe droid will be coming out shortly also. Trying to stay with just statues but this is really going to be hard. Damn you Sideshow! :panic:
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Yes I am saying when I first saw the jacket in the early 1990's it was more blue gray than brown.

Someone was having a laugh at your expense. Maybe they were traveling through time with that coat, setting up these clever displays. Or maybe the coat circa 2012 (after color change) was brought back in time to be used in the making of the movie.

I mean, there are plenty of other details in the Star Wars universe far more difficult to believe, such as Stormtroopers being anything but useless clown-like human targets. Cool and iconic looking nonetheless of course, but about as scary (even at the time) as a puppy.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

For the record, I always thought it was blue as a kid (to the extent that I thought about it at all) and I still think the blue looks nicer. But I just can't see anything to back up the idea that it was actually blue. I'm not doubting what you say about your experience, but the truth is that people's senses and memories are often not very reliable.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

For the record, I always thought it was blue as a kid (to the extent that I thought about it at all) and I still think the blue looks nicer. But I just can't see anything to back up the idea that it was actually blue. I'm not doubting what you say about your experience, but the truth is that people's senses and memories are often not very reliable.

That's why I backed it up with factual information

The filming miniature
The figure
The bluray

There are tons of other points of reference. Your taking about film lighting/ exposure changing the color on screen from blue to brown. Same is true with the photography on set.

Case in point.....for years people were positive that At At Driver armor was white. They based this opinion on the few photos on set of the character, he VHS/ DVD, and the figure. When a screen used helmet surfaced in England it clearly showed that the on set photos were over exposed altering the color of the armor. The armor was not white, but infact gray. Again the gray color was supported when the bluray was released thus again showing the gray coloring.

I see a 50/50 split when I see on set photos. Depending on exposure not only does the jacket color change so does the skin tone and the surroundings. Therefore photos taken in 1979-80 are not conclusive proof of anything. You have to see the item in person to fully gauge coloring.

You really can not base the details of a prop or costume you see on a film. As in most cases there are degrees of those details that in person are completely different than you had thought.

My final thoughts on this issue.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

I'm not sure what you mean about the blu-ray. It's obviously brown in the shot where Han gets on the tauntaun (and yeah, I did just dig it out to check). Or do you mean that they mentioned something about it on the blu-ray?

I've never seen the filming miniature. Do you have a picture?
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

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The Tippet puppet was "blue cloth"

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Here it is. Phil Tippett based the filming puppet on the actual costume for continuity.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Interesting. But it's obviously brown now. That could be because it changed color as you say, but it's just as likely that the person at "Profiles in History" simply got that detail wrong because they thought the coat was supposed to be blue.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Interesting. But it's obviously brown now. That could be because it changed color as you say, but it's just as likely that the person at "Profiles in History" simply got that detail wrong because they thought the coat was supposed to be blue.

Dude are you serious?

It's blue plain as day. This is now owned by Gus Lopez. I was at the auction saw it in person, and its unquestionably blue. Profiles did not get the color wrong when it was in their possession to photograph, and describe. Come on man, this is just stupid now.

The jacket for both the miniature and costume for Harrison were blue end of discussion.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

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It's blue. When you see it that close, it's definitely 100% blue.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Dude are you serious?

It's blue plain as day. This is now owned by Gus Lopez. I was at the auction saw it in person, and its unquestionably blue. Profiles did not get the color wrong when it was in their possession to photograph, and describe. Come on man, this is just stupid now.

The jacket for both the miniature and costume for Harrison were blue end of discussion.

You really think that's blue? Okay... Maybe we're tapping into a problem with the way different people perceive colors. But it sure as heckfire looks brown to me.

By the way, I found a shot of the original jacket on display where you can read the caption. It reads:

HAN SOLO'S HOTH PATROL COAT
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Han Solo's Hoth Patrol Coat appears to be a brown color. Yet most viewers remember it as blue. This popular impression is so strong that Star Wars licensees have even made some approved products depicting Han Solo's Patrol Coat as dark blue. Why the confusion? In the film, the Hoth scenes have very little color. But Ralph McQuarrie's vivid production paintings of Hoth emphasize a deep blue to convey a feeling of cold. McQuarrie's memorable "artistic license" brings blue hues to mind for the ice planet, even though blues barely appear in the film. Perhaps these paintings literally "colored" impressions and memories of the Hoth scenes and gave the coat its strange chameleon history.

That's not exactly conclusive, but you'd think that if the jacket had literally changed colors they would have mentioned it.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

It should be blue just like Han's Bespin jacket. Why would it be brown? Makes no sense.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Doesn't account for the Tippen miniature being blue.
If the actual coat was brown, you'd think this would have been shown in the puppet too. Or corrected to be brown, for in the film. Or at least stated that they got it wrong. None of that.

But the puppet was blue.

And LFL have been approving blue and brown coat Hoth Han's for years.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

The bluray

Wait, what? Are you trying to re-write history? The Bluray has already been color corrected. The coat is very clearly some form of brown in every scene. Are you sure you TV and monitors are calibrated?

There are tons of other points of reference. Your taking about film lighting/ exposure changing the color on screen from blue to brown.

I've never (not ever) heard of anyone claiming that the movie made the coat look brown when it was in fact blue - only the opposite. And then only with the original releases.

Case in point.....for years people were positive that At At Driver armor was white.

I wouldn't say the AT-AT drivers are wearing armor at all, but that's just me. Anyway, are you talking about their chest and shoulder pads? Because there's most definitely a ton of grey on that character, the entire flight suit for starters.

They based this opinion on the few photos on set of the character, he VHS/ DVD, and the figure.

There's a lot more wrong with the figures than simple shades, including moulding of the helmet. Anyway, on-screen the helmet appears like it's grey and white. And these characters have barely any screen time and then only in really tight quarters. I'm not sure it's a good example for the Han coat unless you were arguing the opposite of your claims.

When a screen used helmet surfaced in England it clearly showed that the on set photos were over exposed altering the color of the armor. The armor was not white, but infact gray.

The helmet however doesn't appear the same shade as the chest and shoulder pads in the movies. Both of those look decidedly more white than the helmet, which only parts of look white.

Again the gray color was supported when the bluray was released thus again showing the gray coloring.

Only on parts of the helmet. The rest of those pad and armored accessories looks white. But the next time you go to a paint store, ask to see a sample of white paint - when you're done looking at the 1000th different sample, you can leave. ;)

You have to see the item in person to fully gauge coloring.

Apparently that's also meaningless because you've already mentioned that the color on these fabrics keeps changing like a chameleon.

You really can not base the details of a prop or costume you see on a film. As in most cases there are degrees of those details that in person are completely different than you had thought.

It also doesn't help when there are multiple different props used and further difference in models of different scales, etc. For instance, the miniature Taun Tauns really look absolutely nothing like the large scale pieces used for close-ups. Different head proportions/shape, different body shape, etc.

It should be blue just like Han's Bespin jacket. Why would it be brown? Makes no sense.

Because every single other person on Hoth wore brown items? Now unless Han went to a private tailor to get that coat custom made, it's probably the same coat that someone else at the base also had.

Anyway, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here because I always thought the blue of the Kenner figure was extremely odd and didn't match the movie at all. Also that a blue coat would have been very strange considering no one else wears blue anything on that base, dark light or anything in-between.
 
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Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

And LFL have been approving blue and brown coat Hoth Han's for years.

So what does that say? That they really don't give a 5h1t. (did you know you can't even write that word in the forum using an asterisk for the i?)

Honestly, you'd think no one had any kind of attention to detail when making these movies to begin with. At the very least, attention to many of the wrong details at times.

Maybe they should just release a white coat and everyone can just dye it whatever color/shade they want. Make the fur polyester so it doesn't take the dye. ;)
 
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Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

Because every single other person on Hoth wore brown items? Now unless Han went to a private tailor to get that coat custom made, it's probably the same coat that someone else at the base also had.

Anyway, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here because I always thought the blue of the Kenner figure was extremely odd and didn't match the movie at all. Also that a blue coat would have been very strange considering no one else wears blue anything on that base, dark light or anything in-between.

It's a Correllian coat. Looks different from the coats worn by the Hoth rebels.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

So what does that say? That they really don't give a 5h1t. (did you know you can't even write that word in the forum using an asterisk for the i?)

Honestly, you'd think no one had any kind of attention to detail when making these movies to begin with. At the very least, attention to many of the wrong details at times.

They stopped giving a ****e a long time ago...
Or did they ever really care? Who knows.

I don't remember anyone else on Hoth having a similar coat though. But it's been a while since I seen Empire. Nor anything brown. Lot's of off white and fawn colours going on.
 
Re: 1/6th Scale Sideshow TaunTaun (in development)

It's a Correllian coat. Looks different from the coats worn by the Hoth rebels.

Surprisingly, that, given how twisted and convoluted everything is about the entire Star Wars universe, can make some sense.
 
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