12" Faramir is next!!!

[Fritz]

Smeagol would have reverted back to Gollum the second he realized Frodo was really going to destroy the ring. I can't imagine Smeagol walking up Mount Doom and watching Frodo cast the ring into the fire without reverting into Gollum and trying to save the precious, can you?...

Sure, why not? He got rid of Gollum when he though Frodo was his friend. You may think he "would" have but that's an assumption. My argument for Faramir's character being critical stands.

 

[sebcanadaceo]

I am somewhat dissapointed that "Faramir" is the next LOTR figure, I was really hoping for one of the female characters ("Arwen", "Éowyn" or "Galadriel")... I hope we get one of them after "Faramir"?

Don't get me wrong, I DO want "Faramir" and I will be getting him. I just wish we would have gotten a few other figures before him.

:emperor

 

[Customikey]

They're teasing us by holding back the grey wanderer. Sneaky monkeys.

 

[The Josh]

In what specific way? You've done nothing but speak in broad strokes and generalizations.

The movie could have easily done without Faramir. I don't understand his significance either.

Well, since I walked away for a while GB and Fritz kind of answered. They are right though without Faramir a few things don't happen. Then in the movie how do you explain those events. PJ would have tried and then fans would have been pissed.

Faramir was important. He showed was still good in Gondor, what his father/brother should have been, that if you had the right heart you could fight the ring. Who does Eowyn meet in the HOH? What finally pushes Denethor over the edge? Who does Denethor try to kill while kiling himself? With no Faramir these and other questions would be impossible to get right.

Elwood If you honestly think they could have made the movies without Faramir. You know less about LOTR than I thought because I at least had a feeling you had a decent grasp on the story.

Definitely a more significant character in the book... but he was still important in the movie. If anything he helped to illustrate how far his father had strayed from being a just leader. But, nonetheless not someone I need in my collection.

All Right!!!

In regards to Faramir being insignificant and/or not critical to the "movie" I present the following...

- No Faramir means no one captures Frodo and Sam
- If Frodo and Sam are not captured, Smeagol is not captured.
- If Smeagol is not captured he doesn't revert back to Gollum
- If Smeagol does not revert back to Gollum he doesn't fight Frodo for the ring.
- If he doesn't fight Frodo for the ring he doesn't get it and fall into the lava
- If he doesn't fall into the lava, Frodo is corrupted and keeps the ring and Sauron wins.

In my opinion, Faramir is critical to the war of the Ring and an awesome choice for the next 12" figure.

Exactly GB and Fritz!

 

[noelleon69]

Faramir is nice... but still i would prefered completing the fellowship first, with announcing gandalf the grey. hmm... right, my wallet does gets to rest a while before gtg.

 

[galactiboy]

My guess is if they did the 9 off the bat a lot of collectors would get out after that. This way, a lot of collectors will pick up a few extra figures along the way. But I'm pretty sure no matter what the all the Fellowship members will be made, I can't imagine they'd let the line end without at least all of them.

 

[Darth Caedus]

THere was a time when I said I wasn't interested in Boromir. Then I ordered him. I doubt I'll be able to pass on his younger, and stronger, brother either.

ah....the debate begins....was faramir morally stronger or physically stronger, or both???

 

[nash]

Faramir ! cool! cant wait to see what kind of weapons and accessories he comes with. sweet Finally a new announcement!

 

[LOTRFan]

Sure, why not? He got rid of Gollum when he though Frodo was his friend. You may think he "would" have but that's an assumption. My argument for Faramir's character being critical stands.

Not anymore than your "would nots."

Of course Faramir had to be in the story, I don't think that was the point; the issue was more whether or not he played a significant enough role as originally written. Personally I found both Denethor and Faramir to be very underdeveloped in parts:

1) Why was Denethor losing his mind, why did he have such a bleak view towards his own peope? Of course this is answered if you read the book, but it was argued earlier that PJ made these changes for those who hadn't, to me that doesn't make sense.

2) Why was Faramir so different from his brother, what enabled him to resist the ring?

3) The storyline with Eowyn was so rushed, that it did become EE material.

I guess I could go on if I cared to, the bottom line for me is - Faramir was a vehicle, effective arguably from a cinematic viewpoint, but underused for the character as written.

Oh, and I will most likely not be getting the 12" fig.

 

[galactiboy]

Oh, and I will most likely not be getting the 12" fig.

See folks... its not even a justification to buy the figure. So you have to believe him

 

[LOTRFan]

See folks... its not even a justification to buy the figure. So you have to believe him

Indeed!

 

[MisterToyNYC]

So by the same logic we should get a worthless character to keep our interest in the line, before we get to the ones that matter

Now you're catching on!

Eric

 

[Killbeggar]

Faramir was one of the characters that really grew on me with repeated viewings of the films. His courage and moral strength made him the antithesis of his father (who had neither) and a better man than his brother (who just had courage). In my opinion he's important to the story of both the books and the movies - and will be a great addition to my collection.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Then dude you are simply clueless to LOTR then. Not even worth discussing it with you further.

Yeah! Where's my gun!
Eric

 

[Darth Caedus]

Faramir was one of the characters that really grew on me with repeated viewings of the films. His courage and moral strength made him the antithesis of his father (who had neither) and a better man than his brother (who just had courage). In my opinion he's important to the story of both the books and the movies - and will be a great addition to my collection.

HEAR HEAR....couldn't have said it better myself. A very underrated character....will love to have him next to his brother.

 

[The Josh]

Faramir was one of the characters that really grew on me with repeated viewings of the films. His courage and moral strength made him the antithesis of his father (who had neither) and a better man than his brother (who just had courage). In my opinion he's important to the story of both the books and the movies - and will be a great addition to my collection.

Yeah, that's my feelings on this. Sure in the movies Faramir wasn't perfectly made. That being said I still feel he was vital to the storyline.

 

[creature4000]

I hope he comes with a mask! I'll get him only because I know it will be 12 months before he arrives.

Maybe we can get acouple of generic Rangers to go with him!!!

When do you think the pre -order will be?

 

[choopie]

Wow, that came out of left field. I figured Sideshow would make him eventually but not this soon in the 12" line. At any rate, I'm glad to have him in my collection. I've got a spot for him already.

Reading these threads makes me laugh. I can remember the near riots when the SS/W line ended with no Faramir statue. Now we've got discussions of whether he was an important character enough to be made into a 12" figure. Important or not, he's much better looking (the nose aside) than Gandalf or a Nazgul so I'm not complaining about Sideshow's choice.

 

[The Josh]

Reading these threads makes me laugh. I can remember the near riots when the SS/W line ended with no Faramir statue. Now we've got discussions of whether he was an important character enough to be made into a 12" figure. Important or not, he's much better looking (the nose aside) than Gandalf or a Nazgul so I'm not complaining about Sideshow's choice.

It is funny aint it.

 

[Beruthiel]

Well, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I have no interest in the 12 inch figures. They are nice, but sorry, they don't do it for me. I decided early on in the PF and 12 inch lines that I would stick to the PFs only. However, with absolutely nothing on the PFs in like forever, I'm ready to throw in the towel and just stop. I have a sinking feeling that the PF line will be so incomplete that why bother. I'll take Lurtz, but Frodo doesn't look all that great and with no news on the PF line, I'm really considering cancelling him and just moving on to something else or maybe nothing at all.