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Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I see perfection in 22 consecutive connected movies even though some entries were not perfect, does that make sense.

Is it really that impressive that 22 movies are in a series? A typical US television series has over 22 episodes. I guess it's impressive in the fact that it's never really been done before, but on a technical level it's not a big deal. I've certainly invested more time in a lot of TV series than 46 hours.
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Cinema, TV even Stage are not apples to apples not even close so I won’t even entertain that lol

If it’s so easy where is my TOHO 22 movie connected Godzilla series dammit :gah:, that ends in a movie called Godzilla: End Game :lol

Or are the Japanese just a dumb society that lacks creativity so they could never pull that off?

I figured since you live in Japan that’s your wheelhouse lol
 
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Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

TF 1 and 3 I can get behind, but 4? :thud: :monkey4

I swear it was all my wife’s doing we were at the mall she said for me to go watch it while she would shop but then she was in the mood for a movie after I got out and since we were there she insisted.

Umm we were also drunk if that helps :lol she can out drink me.

It was beyond torture lol
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Iron Man wasn’t even on my radar until RDJ, and became a top tier superhero for me, although I’ve yet to find a comic incarnation or story that I really dig.

Out of the entire MCU he’s always been my favourite. I admire Cap’s idealism and tenacity, but besides the inherent charm and snark RDJ brings to the character, the MCU Iron Man is — unsurprisingly — much more relatable.


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Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Well after 11 years I now have my favorite single defining moment in all of the MCU and I can’t believe it’s in the last freaking movie for these characters.

To pick a single defining favorite moment out of 46 hours worth of content is not an easy task and in no way does it diminish the high quality goodness from the other entries.

When I say “defining moment” it’s just a single moment that represents everything I came to love about the series.

I guess it makes sense that it happened in the last movie because of the cumulative narrative effect so in a way it’s unfair to the other movies but in a very major way i’m super thrilled that it is there to end the series in such a thrilling manner especially since there was no guarantee that EG would have a scene of that caliber.

Anyways enough rambling after 11 years and a ton of emotion, money and time invested my most favorite defining emotional moment in ALL of the MCU goes to.....

Drum roll please lol

The quiet scene other than fire embers crackling in the background of Captain America receiving a broken transmission from Falcon with Falcon’s epic simple dialogue calling out Rogers with “Cap” and ending with the most epic line of dialogue ever spoken in a superhero movie, EVER!

“Avengers Assemble!”

“I’m Batman!” you’re out!

My heart stopped and raced at the same time an impossible feat!

Well there you go.

Is EG a perfect movie?

Is the MCU a perfect series?

If would be easy to answer with “why should they be when i’m not perfect so whom am I to demand perfection from 22 consecutive connected movies” but you know what i’m proud to add the entire collective MCU to my perfection list that is:

ANH/ESB
LOTR
Raiders
Die Hard 1
Predator 1
Conan the Barbarian 1
Road Warrior
Aliens
T1
T2
TDK
The Thing
The Exorcist
Friday the 13th 1
Halloween 1

I see perfection in 22 consecutive connected movies even though some entries were not perfect, does that make sense.

No, that’s ok my list my rules lol

Man never in a million years in my most wildest of imaginations would I have ever thought that Falcon would be connected in any shape or form to my most favorite superhero moment in cinematic and non cinematic history!

Oh man :lol

Yes EG Cap is THAT EPIC just think about that for a second, let that sink in! :lol

Man that just freaking warms my heart to read. I'm not gonna bore people by reposting details of the decades long wait I've had hoping that Cap would be done justice on the big screen but suffice it to say that it's truly surreal to actually have the MCU and IW/AEG be an actual thing and worthy of mention alongside the SW OT and LOTR. :thud:

Now if I'm just going to cut out individual movies to say are the ultimate cream of the crop then I'd probably go:

SW/ESB
FOTR
ALIENS
AEG

Boom, right there. But really its:

SW OT/RO
LOTR
A1/A2
MCU Phase I-III

Yes that's right and it's kind of an annoying pain to type that last one so I'll say "MCU" for now, lol. How did they do it. Just how. Yes a valid argument could be made that lots of individual MCU entries are merely "good", "average" or slightly subpar. Right now I wouldn't apply that last label to a single MCU flick, not even IM3, TDW or CM. Those are still all watchable flicks that are instantly and *forever* elevated by IW/AEG. There's just no separating them now.

And for the record I always respected IM3 for doing it's own thing and IMO even doing it well. TDW being heavily referenced in Ragnarok and AEG is absolutely indispensable now. CM didn't ruin anything in AEG (and I think Thanos' ship turning all it's cannons on her like a pirate ship making a full broadside attack was just hella cool as was the accompanying cheer from my initial audience) so any misgivings I had about the poor direction of her flick is just water under the bridge.

Like you said it's not just that AEG is a great flick but that they *stuck the landing on a 22 film finale.* I get that Hulk fans are disappointed. Of course I get it I'm a lifelong SW fan who actually disowned ROTJ (an actual OT flick!) for years because of disgust over how it treated Han, Fett, and Vader, all bigger icons than the Hulk for me. But over time I've come to appreciate the satisfying resolution that it still provides the entire Saga with great moments like Jabba, space battle, Emperor and so forth.

AEG might not be perfect but it's absolutely ROTK level flawed (that is to say totally forgivable in any missteps) and has none of the outwardly laughable moments of say ROTJ, TLC, TDKR, SM3, ROTS, and other franchise/trilogy closers. This is NOT another SW/ESB situation where so many franchises get traction for one or two films out of the gate and then falter (sometimes spectacularly) by the end. AEG is an ending to end all endings, lol. And with the balls to even call themselves Endgame. :rock

It didn't just satisfyingly wrap the setup of IW but it closed loops going back to the original IM (loved Tony repeating his famous quote as he snapped his fingers), explaining the disappearance of TFA Red Skull, revealed the full extent of Zemo's actions, definitively answered why Banner might have been given the green monster "for a higher purpose" as suggested in A1, delivered on the promise of Thanos turning to the camera at the end of A1, Cap and Peggy, Thor and his mom (and by extension coming to terms with not just her but all the family he lost), Pepper finally bonding with and understanding Tony in a manner that goes way past simply tolerating his suit fetish, Tony making the definitive sacrifice play, Fury fully making good on his effort to create a self sustaining network of global superheroes, I'm probably forgetting half a dozen others.

And it didn't just close loops or bring things full circle it did it in ways that far exceeded my wildest expectations!

Even if you go back to TIH it's kind of heart-warming that the Banner who was always terrified of a new "incident" and living off the grid is now green and proud and out in the open 100% surrounded by his closest friends.

Yeah in the 22 film journey we can probably go back and see where they backtracked certain threads or course corrected (remember that random IM short revealing that Killian wasn't the real Mandarin? So much seeing that through, lol) but dude, *22 films*, minimal misfires or continuity gaffes. Epic SW OT/LOTR level action and feels. No I won't even say "SW OT level" feels because SW *never* had this kind of emotion. Exhilaration, yes, but only LOTR and AEG have had me practically tearing up days later on simple reflection of everything that played out on screen.

I don't know how I can call this anything other than an absolute best case scenario. IMO it really is. Bravo Favreau, Feige, Russos, RDJ, Evans, and everyone else. Freaking bravo. :bow
 
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Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Jesus dude I don’t even know where to begin in how to respond to your post. :thud:

Hold on I need a cup of coffee to fix my hangover before I even attempt it lol

Other people have hangovers from parties and nightclubs i’m the idiot that gets them from geek movie night :rotfl
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Put your directors/writers cap (pun intended) on for a second and ask yourself this:

Which of the 2 lines of dialogue did the Russo’s/writers place all of the focus on?

“On your left” while cool and part of what makes that entire moment my most favorite it’s just that a very cool line from a secondary character that is used as as a call back to TWS in an effort to build up Cap even more and successfully so I might add, perfectly used to great effect!

BUT “AA” is used by the PRIMARY character with all attention placed on said character who was center screen and not off to the side flying around like Falcon AND the music and sound effects went quiet to greatly accentuate the importance of those 2 simple yet powerful words used to rally everyone to save humanity!

“On your left” is just a cool call back personal line of dialogue perfectly used between 2 characters.

“AA” is meant as a rallying cry for ALL THE GOOD CHARACTERS to save humanity!

“AA” was given a ton more importance than “On your left” by the creators.

Not even close for me, sorry but thanks for the feedback fellow geeks.
:hi5:

Yes, but they were already assembled - It really should have been "Avengers, ATTACK!" Evans probably flubbed the line, but everyone was tired and it was late in the day so the Russos decided, "Close enough". :rotfl
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

That’s a GREAT list right there.

:duff

The Fab Five. :rock

Yes, but they were already assembled - It really should have been "Avengers, ATTACK!" Evans probably flubbed the line, but everyone was tired and it was late in the day so the Russos decided, "Close enough". :rotfl

Lol, yeah it's kind of funny when you think about it but it's not a Russo thing it's just the nature of Cap's catchphrase. He tended to say it in the comics when the team was already around him too and even at the end of AOU he assumedly said it while everyone was just awkwardly standing together in an empty room, lol.

So no complaints on the timing of the line in AEG from me.
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

The explanation I heard was that Ebony Maw & Thanos were both brilliant and easily reverse-engineered the Pym particles, then replicated/mass produced them for the entire army.



I wondered about that as well. When they interfered with her first attempt to return (when Rhodey left without her), I assumed they sent some type of signal or pulse via her neural network to block/neutralize the time GPS gadget. In other words, I just went with it. :lol

She was trying to warn Clint and Nat, that's why she stayed behind. She probably thought Thanos also knew where the Soul Stone was.
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Well after 11 years I now have my favorite single defining moment in all of the MCU and I can’t believe it’s in the last freaking movie for these characters.

To pick a single defining favorite moment out of 46 hours worth of content is not an easy task and in no way does it diminish the high quality goodness from the other entries.

When I say “defining moment” it’s just a single moment that represents everything I came to love about the series.

I guess it makes sense that it happened in the last movie because of the cumulative narrative effect so in a way it’s unfair to the other movies but in a very major way i’m super thrilled that it is there to end the series in such a thrilling manner especially since there was no guarantee that EG would have a scene of that caliber.

Anyways enough rambling after 11 years and a ton of emotion, money and time invested my most favorite defining emotional moment in ALL of the MCU goes to.....

Drum roll please lol

The quiet scene other than fire embers crackling in the background of Captain America receiving a broken transmission from Falcon with Falcon’s epic simple dialogue calling out Rogers with “Cap” and ending with the most epic line of dialogue ever spoken in a superhero movie, EVER!

“Avengers Assemble!”

“I’m Batman!” you’re out!

My heart stopped and raced at the same time an impossible feat!

Well there you go.

Is EG a perfect movie?

Is the MCU a perfect series?

If would be easy to answer with “why should they be when i’m not perfect so whom am I to demand perfection from 22 consecutive connected movies” but you know what i’m proud to add the entire collective MCU to my perfection list that is:

ANH/ESB
LOTR
Raiders
Die Hard 1
Predator 1
Conan the Barbarian 1
Road Warrior
Aliens
T1
T2
TDK
The Thing
The Exorcist
Friday the 13th 1
Halloween 1

I see perfection in 22 consecutive connected movies even though some entries were not perfect, does that make sense.

No, that’s ok my list my rules lol

Man never in a million years in my most wildest of imaginations would I have ever thought that Falcon would be connected in any shape or form to my most favorite superhero moment in cinematic and non cinematic history!

Oh man :lol

Yes EG Cap is THAT EPIC just think about that for a second, let that sink in! :lol

Damn good list....

I would add BTTF and Godfather....but other than that...


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

So I wonder for FFH , did Tony spend the last five years making that new red and black suit, in hopes that Peter might return someday. Did anyone wonder about this :dunno
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

:duff

Lol, yeah it's kind of funny when you think about it but it's not a Russo thing it's just the nature of Cap's catchphrase. He tended to say it in the comics when the team was already around him too and even at the end of AOU he assumedly said it while everyone was just awkwardly standing together in an empty room, lol.

So no complaints on the timing of the line in AEG from me.

The more I think about it, it's becoming apparent that the Russos were the wrong choice to direct this movie, as they worshipped Cap a bit too much. What was needed was a director who didn't view him through rose colored glasses, but rather someone who would deconstruct him and creatively explore his character and show us what really made him tick. You know, someone like........




Shane Black.

:chase





KIDDING!!!!
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

It's amazing how full of win Thanos is...

I mean, he accomplished The Snap... Avengers assembled and LOST.

Then Thanos eliminated the stones from existence. Avengers assembled for nothing.

Then, after all that, he still wins in his own death, as Thor ultimately obeys Thanos and goes "for the head".... original Thanos' last laugh at the puny assembly.



Thanos wins 14 million times. Only once did he lose. There's 14 million other movies that you guys haven't seen yet.
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Endgame is already over 1.9 bill and will be aver 2 bill by the end of the weekend...wut? :lol Over 2 bill in 10 days.

Joker will beat it tho. You got this DC!!

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Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

It’s going to be the all time record holder by the end of this summer
 
Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Would we have gotten the America Protocols with all of the uniforms from the comics. I would love to see a screen version of the USAgent uniform. Capwolf could be epic. :rotfl

The more I think about it, it's becoming apparent that the Russos were the wrong choice to direct this movie, as they worshipped Cap a bit too much. What was needed was a director who didn't view him through rose colored glasses, but rather someone who would deconstruct him and creatively explore his character and show us what really made him tick. You know, someone like........




Shane Black.

:chase





KIDDING!!!!
 
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