Avengers: Endgame

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

So Thor would die too? He endured the full power of a neutron star for two minutes.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

The stones created the cosmos!

cosmos > silly dying star

I mean it’s even stupid that Thanos can live but you know....silly comic books.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Thanos >>Thor and Hulk


But MCU Thor >>>Hulk >>>proffesor Hulk....and the weakest hulk can handle it, but not Thor?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

They also said IW thankfully was not the ceiling for success since EG the sequel surpassed it.

Sounds like some shade being lobbied at TLJ to me lol

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Thanos >>Thor and Hulk


But MCU Thor >>>Hulk >>>proffesor Hulk....and the weakest hulk can handle it, but not Thor?

Could you please let JAWS have his gamma moment at least sheesh are you insufferable lol

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Let me fix that for you.

JW series are boring and repetitive one man army films.

cgi blood splatter yuck

The Stallone / Schwarzenegger / all things action cinema in you tells me you don't really believe that

But if true then that is another reason you should like part 3 more. He is not always alone.

Maybe you have outgrown the genre. You're growing up, boy.

Say its not so Jye!!

pfft T1 police station shoot out > any JW shoot out

Um.. Not fair to compare.. Its really two different genres, with two very different ways of shooting the action. T1 is a Sci Fi / horror while JW is straight up revenge /action.

Would T1 have been as cool if it was just some guy shooting up the police station and not an unstoppable killing machine?

Plus T1 is a freaking all time classic.

How about Any JW shoot > then all action in T2

T1 police shootout: the OG RO Vader sequence.

I like all the old action movies, but JW actually uses real tactical moves and fighting techniques. JW has surpassed the action and choreography of all those old one man army films.

I love watching the BTS video of Keanu training with the guns.

His Martial arts has also gotten so much better since the first Matrix film. Its been fun watching him grow.

I don’t know man I know i’m supposed to love John Wick I respect the technicality behind the craft I love Keanu I just don’t know it was all downhill for me 1 hour into the first movie.

I am not sure what to tell you Jye because I don't disagree with you all that much.. First time watching JW I thought it was OK at best. Then the 2nd film was announced and I went ahead and bought it on Blu Ray. I enjoyed it more for sure but still did not find it to be the end all be all of action films.

The 2nd one I was very disappointed in due to the "wait your turn" fighting we were talking about.. But I did appreciate the films style and look when I saw it a second time in 4K. It also got me pumped for part 3.

Part 3 is my fav.. A big reason is because the action is upped in brutality and originality but I have also come to accept what these films are.

Every question asked for the MCU actors during the press tour had to do with their character arcs and keeping secrets every question asked of the John Wick actors is how did you learn to reload so fast.

So basically every MCU actor was asked how to play pretend and every JW actor was how did they learn a real skill

Again not the same genre of movies.

One of the brilliant things about the MCU is that the are character driven movies.

John Wick is a throwback to 80's action cinema and Asian Martial arts films.

But like I said above with your first comment.. I get it.. I was not in love with the first two either but somehow found a way to enjoy them a little more with a repeat viewing of each.

I freaking had a blast with part 3. But if its not your thing then IDK if you will like it.

Its a tuff call... Just do what you told me you were going to do and rent the second and watch the third and let me know.

Only way to be sure.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Could you please let JAWS have his gamma moment at least sheesh are you insufferable lol

His posts are so long tho.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)



Shame that Dredd didn’t get the love these JW movies are getting.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Fair enough. I like them because of the visual style, fight choreography, John Wick's suits and cars, the continental and the world of assassins, everyone hyping Wick like Colonel Trautman, and the cast. They're like a video game or anime.

Pretty much how I feel.

I guess it’s why I don’t own The Raid but I do Dredd.

The Raid is more technically proficient but all that technical precision is oh sooo boring to me.
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Oh man.. IDK what to say.. The Raid? Did you just diss The Raid?? Them fighting words

I like Dredd but man I don't think it has anything on The Raid.

I did see The Raid before Dredd.. So that could have a little to do with it.

I like seeing original action.. There is not a ton out there anymore. Asian cinema usually can take it too the next level but much of it bores me also..

Not so with both Raid movies. The director took Asian action film to another level In those film IMO.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Could you please let JAWS have his gamma moment at least sheesh are you insufferable lol

His posts are so long tho.

Shame that Dredd didn’t get the love these JW movies are getting.

I would love another Dredd movie.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Meanwhile from EG writers:

Hulk the only who could survive doing the snap other than Thanos.

I did find it interesting that CM carried the gauntlet to keep it away from Thanos but didn't simply put it on and incinerate Thanos and his legions herself. She must have suspected that she too was no Hulk.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Pretty much how I feel.



Oh man.. IDK what to say.. The Raid? Did you just diss The Raid?? Them fighting words

I like Dredd but man I don't think it has anything on The Raid.

I did see The Raid before Dredd.. So that could have a little to do with it.

I like seeing original action.. There is not a ton out there anymore. Asian cinema usually can take it too the next level but much of it bores me also..

Not so with both Raid movies. The director took Asian action film to another level In those film IMO.

I saw Dredd first. Still liked The Raid a lot more.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I did find it interesting that CM carried the gauntlet to keep it away from Thanos but didn't simply put it on and incinerate Thanos and his legions herself. She must have suspected that she too was no Hulk.

But Feige said she was the most powerful avenger. I never though about her carrying the gauntlet and simply not using it instead. Sounds like a plot hole.

Although, I don't think the original plan was to use it, it was to take it to the truck to send it back in time? Plus, she might not know how to use it. It was big, so she doesn't know that it can fit her hand.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Feige also said she's one of Marvel's most popular characters too. He's such a jokester, lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Feige also said she's one of Marvel's most popular characters too. He's such a jokester, lol.

He used the time stone and saw the billion dollar boxoffice number.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Pretty much how I feel.



Oh man.. IDK what to say.. The Raid? Did you just diss The Raid?? Them fighting words

I like Dredd but man I don't think it has anything on The Raid.

I did see The Raid before Dredd.. So that could have a little to do with it.

I like seeing original action.. There is not a ton out there anymore. Asian cinema usually can take it too the next level but much of it bores me also..

Not so with both Raid movies. The director took Asian action film to another level In those film IMO.

Oh don’t get me wrong those scenes in those Raid movies are absolutely off the charts insane like Jackie Chan on cocaine steroids lol how did nobody die making them is what baffles me the most lol

I did find it interesting that CM carried the gauntlet to keep it away from Thanos but didn't simply put it on and incinerate Thanos and his legions herself. She must have suspected that she too was no Hulk.

If makes sense since gamma ray bursts are still considered the most powerful radiation in existence.

MCU CM strength lies in energy release while Hulk is all about absorption.

Even Ang Lee Hulk had the “Take it all!” scene!

Ang Lee Hulk predicted the IG lol

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

So the first draft had:

No NY battle visit.

They went to the Triskelion.

Asgard was Stark in invisible armor but seen by Heimdell fight breaks out.

Dr. Strange’s home base in the fortress he studied at.


Holy crap first actual cut of movie they hid Thanos learning of the future from Nebula from the audience and revealed it only when she opened the portal but they said the audience were confused and taken out of the movie because they had no idea how her and Thanos did what they did and then boom the action started and it was too late to explain it all!

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yep they really wanted to revisit the Triskellion elevator and so they just moved it to Stark tower, lol. Also they had Tony meeting his teenage daughter and 2014 Thanos attacking HE and BW on Vormir. So glad that they had the wherewithal to keep their egos in check and accept test audience feedback.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yeah dude that all sounds so horrible especially Stark vs Heimdell and Thanos back on Vormir!

It is perfect the way it is but holy crap this whole movie could’ve went sideways fast!

As is the HE and BW scene is gut wrenching.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yep even the mighty ESB and FOTR had some really bad sequences that would have been disastrous if not cut out of the films. No one is immune to feedback and course correction.

Totally agree about HE and BW on Vormir, the final cut of that sequence is perfect.

My son didn't shed a tear at the IW dustings or Tony's death but it was Niagara Falls when BW told Clint it'll be okay.