Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[GasparZizou]

Why would anyone want the ****** Nolanverse to be part of a full blown CBM Cinematic universe? For as ****** BvS could end up being, Snyder already did a way better Batman in a trailer, than Nolan in an entire trilogy

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah, what goose and gaspar said.

Nolan's trilogy is done, 2 out of the 3 were great so good job Nolan even though 3 was blood money.

Time to move on now.

 

[greygoose]

Why would anyone want the ****** Nolanverse to be part of a full blown CBM Cinematic universe? For as ****** BvS could end up being, Snyder already did a way better Batman in a trailer, than Nolan in an entire trilogy

Are you saying that TDKR wasn't the best movie ever made?

 

[EVILFACE]

Are you saying that TDKR wasn't the best movie ever made?

It is the ROTJ of Nolan Batman flicks. Some kewl parts but overall, not up to the same level as the other two.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

For as ****** BvS could end up being, Snyder already did a way better Batman in a trailer, than Nolan in an entire trilogy

I wouldn't say a more comic accurate costume and Batman fighting some dudes makes it a better Batman than the previous versions. He was still just throwing punches in that trailer. The only thing that was "new" was his super human strength. We'll see how good Battfleck is when the film comes out, but I didn't see anything in that trailer that was much better than Batman's intro in Begins.

 

[GasparZizou]

I wouldn't say a more comic accurate costume and Batman fighting some dudes makes it a better Batman than the previous versions.

Yes it does. Let's not forget he built up and mech suit to fight Superman and a weird laser for who knows what, now those are Batman-level engineering skills.

Also, better voice.

He was still just throwing punches in that trailer.

Better punches, more agility, some other sorts of MMA moves, gadgets, batarangs, all in a single fight, that in itself, better than Nolan.

So yes, so far, categorically better.

The only thing that was "new" was his super human strength.

Huh?

We'll see how good Battfleck is when the film comes out, but nothing I saw in that trailer /is that much better than Batman's intro in Begins.

C'moooooooooooooooon.

 

[greygoose]

It is the ROTJ of Nolan Batman flicks. Some kewl parts but overall, not up to the same level as the other two.

Indeed. I'm not going to bash the movie, it just felt very depressing in some moments.

 

[karamazov80]

Why would anyone want the ****** Nolanverse to be part of a full blown CBM Cinematic universe? For as ****** BvS could end up being, Snyder already did a way better Batman in a trailer, than Nolan in an entire trilogy

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yes it does. Let's not forget he built up and mech suit to fight Superman and a weird laser for who knows what, now those are Batman-level engineering skills.

I don't see how that makes him a better character, just more accurate to certain comics, which has nothing to do with the quality of the story or the character.

Also, better voice.

His voice is a bit better, but Kilmer's is way better than Affleck's Transformer voice.

Better punches, more agility, some other sorts of MMA moves, gadgets, batarangs, all in a single fight, that in itself, better than Nolan.

So yes, so far, categorically better.

The action will be better, but that alone doesn't make it a better Batman. That's like saying Cavill is a better Superman because his action scenes are better than Reeve. Not that Bale is on the same level as Reeve, but the point is that there's more to a great character.

Huh?

The way he was throwing people around is not physically possible in real life...only in comics and cartoons. That's new for a movie batman.

C'moooooooooooooooon.

It's true. His use of stealth and the way he gets rid of people in the shadows is as Batman as it gets.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

IMO the fighting style from the first Arkham game clearly evolved from The Dark Knight fight scenes. They just threw in more kicks and jumping around, which has gotten more advanced with each game they make and now Snyder puts what they did in the games in a movie and Nolan Batman is called crap because of it. Lol.

 

[GasparZizou]

I don't see how that makes him a better character, just more accurate to certain comics, which has nothing to do with the quality of the story or the character.

There was not much wrong with the personality of Nolan's Batman, but it's everything else that makes it apparently inferior to this one.

His voice is a bit better, but Kilmer's is way better than Affleck's Transformer voice.

No, not a bit better, A LOT Better. That's how ****** Nolan's Batman voice is.

I kinda like it better than Kilmer's, I've warmed up to the voice modifier.

Transformers voice >>>>>>> dog **** >>>>>> ******** post-Begins throat cancer voice.

The action will be better, but that alone doesn't make it a better Batman.

Yes it does, precisely because of that it does.

The way he was throwing people around is not physically possible in real life...only in comics and cartoons.

When? There was only one bit where he threw a guy a couple feet into some logs, but that guy literally jumped at him and Batman only used the momentum against him, he didn't actually throw him, completely believable for a Batman this size.

It's true. His use of stealth and the way he gets rid of people in the shadows is as Batman as it gets.

You can also see that in the BvS trailer, he puts explosives charges in the guns, blows them up, and even lets a guy hanging from the ceiling BEFORE he drops down and kicks everybody's ***.

IMO the fighting style from the first Arkham game clearly evolved from The Dark Knight fight scenes. They just threw in more kicks and jumping around, which has gotten more advanced with each game they make and now Snyder puts what they did in the games in a movie and Nolan Batman is called crap because of it. Lol.

There is absolutely nothing, even remotely similar to freeflow combat in the Nolan trilogy that could've inspired the Arkham fighting style. Nothing..... I repeat. Nothing.

However, you CAN see some resemblance to the freeflow combat in the Batman Begins GAME, but even in that game Batman looked better fighting than in the trilogy. You're giving it credit it doesn't deserve.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

IMO the fighting style from the first Arkham game clearly evolved from The Dark Knight fight scenes. They just threw in more kicks and jumping around, which has gotten more advanced with each game they make and now Snyder puts what they did in the games in a movie and Nolan Batman is called crap because of it. Lol.

That always happens. When 89 Bats came out, people called Adam West crap, then when Nolan's films came out, they called Burton's Batman crap, and now that Battfleck is the new and "improved" version, they call Nolan films crap Can't wait to see people call Ledger crap when Letoker is the "REAL" Joker

 

[GasparZizou]

That always happens. When 89 Bats came out, people called Adam West crap, then when Nolan's films came out, they called Burton's Batman crap, and now that Battfleck is the new and "improved" version, they call Nolan films crap Can't wait to see people call Ledger crap when Letoker is the "REAL" Joker

I didn't call the movies crap, I said the universe is crap. And it is.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

There was not much wrong with the personality of Nolan's Batman, but it's everything else that makes it apparently inferior to this one.

Makes it different...I wouldn't say inferior from what I've seen so far.

No, not a bit better, A LOT Better. That's how ****** Nolan's Batman voice is.

I kinda like it better than Kilmer's, I've warmed up to the voice modifier.

Transformers voice >>>>>>> dog **** >>>>>> ******** post-Begins throat cancer voice.

Yes it does, precisely because of that it does.

Better action doesn't make him a better character

When? There was only one bit where he threw a guy a couple feet into some logs, but that guy literally jumped at him and Batman only used the momentum against him, he didn't actually throw him, completely believable for a Batman this size.

He picked up a guy with one arm and slammed him on the ground. He threw a guy against a wall and the guy broke the wall, then he punched a guy so hard his head went through the floor. That's not a bad thing...but we've never seen a Batman with that kind of strength.

You can also see that in the BvS trailer, he puts explosives charges in the guns, blows them up, and even lets a guy hanging from the ceiling BEFORE he drops down and kicks everybody's ***.

Right, nothing new from what's been done before.

 

[GasparZizou]

Makes it different...I wouldn't say inferior from what I've seen so far.

I would.

Now imagine that line with Nolan's Batman voice

Better action doesn't make him a better character

No, what I'm saying is, a good Batman, and it's very apparent Batman's personality is on point, topped with some Batman action, DOES make it better.

He picked up a guy with one arm and slammed him on the ground.

He picked him up with both arms and his legs. He slammed him with one arm and his entire body, not only that's very possible even between individuals of similar weight, it looks like it was impeccable technique too

He threw a guy against a wall and the guy broke the wall

A rotten wall and it was pretty close, c'mon.

then he punched a guy so hard his head went through the floor

Rotten wood floor, seriously.

That's not a bad thing...but we've never seen a Batman with that kind of strength.

That's is true. It's not super-strength though, he's just

Spoiler

a big guy

Right, nothing new from what's been done before.

That's what I'm saying, what has been done has been covered, what Nolan's Batman was missing has apparently also been covered, which makes it a better Batman.

 

[karamazov80]

Snyder had a regular, powerful human punching through a brick wall in Watchmen. Stands to reason that this Batman will be super powered, even if they claim in the film that he isn't.

 

[GasparZizou]

Well, I recall Bane punching through bricks too.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

There is absolutely nothing, even remotely similar to freeflow combat in the Nolan trilogy that could've inspired the Arkham fighting style. Nothing..... I repeat. Nothing.
.

Yes there is. It's just 10 times slower in The Dark Knight.

 

[karamazov80]

Does that negate what Snyder did?

 

[GasparZizou]

Did Batman punch through a brick wall?

Yes there is. It's just 10 times slower in The Dark Knight.

Oh