Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)
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Exactly kara, that's been my point all along. 
The Clown Prince of Crime
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So instead of equating the super monster that is attacking the city with other super beings who have also attacked that same city she's instead supposed to suddenly assume she's in ANOTHER studio's movie and go "mutant!" Yeah that totally would be more logical.
She never saw the creature...and if she did, that thing doesn't look like a Kryptonian. She didn't even know Lex created that thing using Zod. They live in a world of meta humans, aliens, and Greek gods, so you're assuming she knows some giant monster is vulnerable to the same thing that can kill Sups. Nah...too many assumptions, from someone who is no really aware of the situation. Maybe she thought it was a creature from LOTR, assuming those movies exist in that universe
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So instead of equating the super monster that is attacking the city with other super beings who have also attacked that same city she's instead supposed to suddenly assume she's in ANOTHER studio's movie and go "mutant!" Yeah that totally would be more logical.
Lois: "Oh **** I better notify The Avengers, Thanos is here!
Superman: "Crazy ***** dafuq are you talking about, he's kryptonian mixed with human dna!"
Lois: "Roger that, it's a Terminator from the future!"
Khev's arguments actually make perfect sense. But I have more faith in Khev than Snyder. Khev to direct Justice League, please.
Lois Lane doing what Lois Lane has done throughout almost the entire history of the character's 75+ year existence (which is be in the middle of almost everything) will never be a problem in my book. She thought about the spear and figured "We might need that" because she's Lois ****ing Lane. Same reason why she's always in the middle of the action and almost always in peril. And she's nosy, snoopy and continually figures things out on her own. Other than Supes himself and his powers, there's been no more consistent trope in the entire mythos.
Oh for heaven's sake you're going to get the biggest damn sigh for being so silly and then a-dev will be pissed.
So Lois is aware of meta humans, aliens, and Greek gods or "no really aware of the situation" at all? Which is it? We don't need to give her all this weird geek comic shop knowledge that she clearly wouldn't have had. She knows that Superman is "invulnerable" but saw first hand Batman wielding a weapon that was ****ing him up. It could have been a magic "lightsaber of the gods" for all she knew but clearly it was better than any earth weapon she would have ever seen so retrieving it would have made perfect sense.
GasparZizou
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I'll agree that people who call these "incoherences" haven't put much though into them and/or are utterly impermeable to a movie plot like I've never seen before.
Lois knows whatever it was came from the Kryptonian ship, she sees it out the Daily Planet's window and it's the first thing she tells to Supes after the Martha thing.
The Martha thing, why would Superman expose his identity to Batman? No, "you have to save this random citizen named Martha", which makes Bats freak out, then comes Lois, and tells him it's his mom, which makes Bats realize, on top of the "Muh Martha" PTSD episode he's having, that this "alien god" not only appears to have loved ones, one of these loved ones is telling him he has a mother.
The fact that his mom is named Martha is just the pinch of providence that makes the moment the genius stroke it is.
Superman himself, not Clark Kent, telling Batman "save my mom", would be dumb and makes no sense.
Lois knows whatever it was came from the Kryptonian ship, she sees it out the Daily Planet's window and it's the first thing she tells to Supes after the Martha thing.
The Martha thing, why would Superman expose his identity to Batman? No, "you have to save this random citizen named Martha", which makes Bats freak out, then comes Lois, and tells him it's his mom, which makes Bats realize, on top of the "Muh Martha" PTSD episode he's having, that this "alien god" not only appears to have loved ones, one of these loved ones is telling him he has a mother.
The fact that his mom is named Martha is just the pinch of providence that makes the moment the genius stroke it is.
Superman himself, not Clark Kent, telling Batman "save my mom", would be dumb and makes no sense.
The Clown Prince of Crime
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Did she think that before or after she threw the spear away and it sank in the water?
The thing is, if the movie stopped to deal with even half of these complaints via exposition, the complaints would then be, "OMG! Why does everything have to be so on-the-nose and over-explained??" You know it's true.
You know it's true.
The Clown Prince of Crime
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He's about to die, and he's worried about his secret identity? Wut ?
If anything, calling her mother, is a more compelling plead.
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I liked that too...Luthor was in complete control over manipulating the situation.. so completely self-absorbed, he even throws his "girl Friday" Mercy Graves in harm's way. It was this story element that made me appreciate the ruthlessness that Luthor epitomizes in the story here - it just takes so much effort to get past the guy playing him (just don't like that Eisenberg guy here - it's almost like he's begging for a tacky costume and a chance to be in some Schumacher-esque production with his hammy acting)
You kind of answer your own question there...Luthor is the ultimate spoiled brat who doesn't like to be told "no" (at least that's an aspect about him in this movie's take on the character). The senator said "no" and pissed him off. He gets his petty revenge and twists the knife on Wayne (by using his former employees as bomb fodder) and Superman (who, by showing up at the hearing, is attempting to do the "right" thing) at the same time...
The one thing that is still irking me about the negative flood still sweeping through this movie is the oft-heard and read gripe, "It's like Snyder doesn't even like these characters"...I can only presume that comes from the way the two main characters are portrayed here...both struggling with a moral code instead of easily embracing one as expected (or as they've been portrayed in the past). I'm okay with the "struggle" ...as long as Snyder and co stay brave enough to see these ideas through...it can be either through redemption or complete surrender to their darker nature, just tell the story in a coherent, interesting way that makes sense. If the result confounds expectations, more power to them!
As Khev mentions, a lot of folks do seem to have a problem with every little thing not being spelled out for them. This is a visual art...the suits at Warner's took a gamble here picking someone who is more inclined to to their story more with the visuals than the words. I hope they don't chicken out here and try and backstep into making everything the way the reactions and research say it should be. That's make one boring, perfect little confection that may satisfy the masses for the quick bucks (and yes, I know, considering the huge sums of money being thrown about with these big movies that it's a given it's got to make a pile of money), but not have the ability to generate debate and discussion like this movie is doing. Theses characters deserve more than just becoming mere content for the reminder bins and Wal-Mart.
I've only seen this movie twice, and both times , it sticks with me afterwards...lots of cool things to think about and puzzle over. I like that.
Did she think that before or after she threw the spear away and it sank in the water?
No problem with that at all, either. She instinctively (and emotionally) tried to get rid of it at first because it was an instrument that almost just meant the end of Clark. I figured that was pretty obvious.
She later thinks (and you can see it in her expression) that "Damn. Maybe we'll need that". So she goes back for it. Wouldn't be the first time she's realized she's probably made a rash decision, either. You have read Superman comics before, right?
Lois always fluctuates between ****ing up, putting herself at risk and making it even harder for Supes and sometimes helping save the day herself. These are all consistent character tropes for her.
GasparZizou
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After, there was no monster before.Did she think that before or after she threw the spear away and sank in the water?
>Krytonian ship is making noise
>New monster, can't possibly be Kryptonian if it came from the Krytpnian ship right?
>If it's Kryptonian, chances are they could use the spear I just tossed in the water.
>Welp, might as well go back for it, just in case.
Nothing wrong there.
Oh.My.He's about to die, and he's worried about his secret identity? Wut ?
God.
Deckard
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Maybe in that moment, Lois decided Batman was really hot and screw Clark so she got the spear for Batman to finish the job and than she could alope with him to Paris just like the end of Dark Knight Rises.
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