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thanks guys. that toe articulation is really something that should be seen IRL.
this one:

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it's so unsafe to lay all ED weight on two hollow plastic tubes. actually on only one tube, if you make a walking pose, which is even worse. that detail worries me a lot.

Ok :)
Yep they could have gone metal for parts like this.
Also its the part that is a ***** to remove to free the legs.

Tought also about adding some metal rods in, just saw that you advised the same thing ;)
 
You are worrying for nothing, it's all made from high strength ABS. Reinforcing the pegs with metal epoxy will react with the ABS and cause the pegs to break.

Replacing the pegs with some sort of metal peg design is still going to shift the weight and stress to the surrounding ABS.

You can remove the legs by doing the reverse of the way you installed them, the pegs are designed to be removed for storage.

Stop stressing over nothing and enjoy this beautifully designed masterpiece.
 
Well please show us how you remove the legs my friend that would help de-stress (even if i dont feel any stress around here just questions) a lot of freaks, me first :)
Thanks mate
 
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Grip both halves of the leg and pull them apart with a slight twisting motion.

I remove the arms and wrap ED in bubble wrap so the legs and other parts don't collide and get scratched up while doing it.

It takes some force but the tip of the pegs will flex slightly and separate.

It's obviously not something you're going to do every day, but it is very doeable.

Using a spatula/palette knife would make the job a lot easier, but there is a good chance you'll scratch up the paint while doing it.

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i tried disconnecting knee joints now and failed. my goal is to preserve them, and all i felt was readiness to break. i'll better wait for another ED, experiment with metal rods on him first.
 
Here's an idea to make the legs more easily removable, to be executed BEFORE plugging them in:
The plastic tubes that lock the legs in place have small ridges at the rim which have sharply angled edges; like a barbed fish hook, so to speak. Once they are pushed into the socket, the sharp edges lock the leg into place. (I do not have my ED yet, but it's easy for me to visualize this based upon the photos posted here.)
Maybe I will gently grind / sand the sharp tube rims down to make them a bit more rounded, so the leg can more easily be pulled off.
I'm also considering putting steel rods inside the tubes as suggested above. It's a great idea for strength, but it would probably make the legs even more difficult to remove- because the plastic tubes would now be filled with metal, so the two flexible halves of the tube's end could no longer flex toward each other. Come to think of it, that same flexibility would be needed in order to get the legs ON... Steel rods inside might make things tricky, but I have to try it.

While I'm waiting for ED to arrive, here are some more decal images I found on the animation model which are absent from the HT figure.
The line, 'ED-209____LAW ENFORCEMENT ROBOT' is in no way confirmed as accurate, but the spacing and the number of characters seems to fit if you look closely, with perhaps a bit of paint chipped off the beginning of the line. I know this line sounds corny, and the accurate reality is probably very different. On the other hand, these decals will be quite tiny anyway.
The other line, I have no clue. I can barely make out the quantity and placement of the characters, let alone what they say.
Ya know, I really have to undertake a pilgrimage to Tippett Studios in Berkeley, and see if I can get some close-up shots of the animation model for reference, and so I have an excuse to pee myself... I only live 13 miles South of the place.
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Guys!
Don't cause yourself headaches because of the legs and the plastic pins regarding stability.

I had the old one which pins are exactly the same design.
I NEVER had ANY problems besides the deteriorating dome rubber and I got ED used from eBay.

So everybody keep calm and comply! ;)
 
Here's an idea for removing the legs: The plastic tubes that lock the legs in place have small ridges at the rim which have sharply angled edges; like a barbed fish hook, so to speak. Once they are pushed into the socket, the sharp edges lock the leg into place.
Maybe I will gently grind / sand the sharp tube rims down to make them a bit more rounded, so the leg can more easily be pulled off.
I'm also considering putting steel rods inside the tubes as suggested above. It's a great idea for strength, but it would probably make the legs even more difficult to remove- because the plastic tubes would now be filled with metal, so the two flexible halves of the tube's end could no longer flex toward each other. Come to think of it, that same flexibility would be needed in order to get the leg ON... Steel rods inside might make things tricky, but I have to try it.

While I'm waiting for ED to arrive, here are more decal images I found on the animation model which are absent from the HT figure.
The first line, 'ED-209 LAW ENFORCEMENT ROBOT' is in no way confirmed as accurate, but the spacing and the number of characters seems to fit.
The second line, I have no clue. I can barely make out the quantity and placement of the characters, let alone what they say.
Ya know, I really have to undertake a pilgrimage to Tippett Studios in Berkeley, and see if I can get some close-up shots of the animation model for reference, and so I have an excuse to pee myself...
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It's so great what you're trying to archieve.
If you can get that stuff produced in good quality... Whoa!
I definitely wanna see that. :)

In any case: if the price for a "preemptive" spare resin dome won't be too high consider me fan #1! ;)
 
Cool stuff, please keep us informed if you are planning to make some decals sets :)

Yep the rod thing is tricky as you said.
Well so far i dont really see it breaking that easely but its nice to see people thinking about solutions just in case.

Now if someone is successfull at removing the legs please film it :)
 
By my calculations, the pegs will hold at least 100X ED's weight The female connector and surrounding ABS will give way before the pegs deform or snap. Very tough stuff!

It's the opposite of what you said, Anthropoid. The lock points on the pegs are rounded so they can be removed. There are pegs that are deliberately designed to not be removable, but the ones used on ED obviously aren't those types.
 
Hot Toys uses pad printed paint decals. If you're going to use waterslide ones, you'll need to clearote them with Mr. Clear Matte finish to blend them in or they will stick out like a sore thumb against the original finish.
 
Here's an idea to make the legs more easily removable, to be executed BEFORE plugging them in:
The plastic tubes that lock the legs in place have small ridges at the rim which have sharply angled edges; like a barbed fish hook, so to speak. Once they are pushed into the socket, the sharp edges lock the leg into place. (I do not have my ED yet, but it's easy for me to visualize this based upon the photos posted here.)
Maybe I will gently grind / sand the sharp tube rims down to make them a bit more rounded, so the leg can more easily be pulled off.
I'm also considering putting steel rods inside the tubes as suggested above. It's a great idea for strength, but it would probably make the legs even more difficult to remove- because the plastic tubes would now be filled with metal, so the two flexible halves of the tube's end could no longer flex toward each other. Come to think of it, that same flexibility would be needed in order to get the legs ON... Steel rods inside might make things tricky, but I have to try it.

Yep, if the metal rods are tight in the plastic pegs the peg won't collapse at the outer flange and allow them to clip in. A rod that is loose enough to allow the deflection at the flange would make it's addition pointless.
 
Cool. Might be not strong as you ;)
If you ever do a third do film it
Thanks



No worries. It's a fairly expensive item and the last thing you want to do is break it, but the ABS used is very tough stuff and can take a lot more than you think, even though it feels like you might break it.
 
Hot Toys uses pad printed paint decals. If you're going to use waterslide ones, you'll need to clearote them with Mr. Clear Matte finish to blend them in or they will stick out like a sore thumb against the original finish.
I understand your position, but I've been producing decals for quite a while. The printer guy who converts my Photoshop images into decals does amazing work. I did the notorious missing decals for the IRONMAN II War Machine; The decals are printed on extremely thin film. Trim the edges away, lacquer gloss coat, then matte coat... and you can't even detect any edges at all. The War Machine was dark plastic with white decal images; ED-209 is the opposite. That will make the transparent areas of the decals even less visible. Also, War Machine had a slightly bumpy surface texture, as you can see in the photos. ED-209 has smooth decal areas, so the very thin decals will lay flat. I've been an avid modeler since about 1972, so I know from experience.
I am discovering and reproducing more ED-209 decals almost daily, from both the animation model and the life-size prop, and in some cases correcting the existing ones. Here's a hint of what they will look like when properly applied.
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14 - close-up heritage and V.JPG
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